[01:18:01] are there any approved smw applications in recent years? [01:39:32] Absolutely [01:39:41] The additional restrictions on SMW are very recent [01:40:04] I don’t think we’ve had like, 4 requests for it since we raised the bar [01:40:53] i submitted one just now [01:42:14] Mmmmmmmmm [01:42:37] If the plan is to move off of SMW when possible… I think it’s fine [01:42:48] @reception123? [01:43:29] instead if a imported wiki were planning to go on with smw it's not fine? [01:44:02] Well [01:44:13] We don’t have a strict checklist of when to approve and when to not [01:44:41] The core of it is we want to minimize the wikis that use SMW who don’t need it [01:45:44] that makes sense [03:01:14] Are there rules against external links? I have a roadmap that includes linking my wiki to a Proboards forum and a Discord server; the forum will be for roleplaying purposes while the Discord will be for socializing (and the wiki will be for categorizing and displaying lore, naturally.) [03:08:09] On your own wiki? Not at all [03:08:42] We do limit external links on userpages due to bad spam actors, though [03:09:11] Excellent! Just wanted to make sure. ^^ And yeah, that's understandable. The page I'm creating will have a total of 2 externals, and the rest shouldn't have any at all, so that's no worry! [03:42:45] I set up a subscription to donate to Miraheze on GitHub (no fees). Who can I send my proof to for the role? 😄 [03:45:54] :wave1: [03:48:10] Feel free to slide it to my DMs [08:10:14] If using DPL to list a subset of pages from the MediaWiki namespace, will it try to scan all system messages or just the pages listed in Special:AllPages [08:35:13] i suspected later [08:39:15] yeah just tested it myself [08:39:17] that's great [08:39:32] this is gonna be my new solution to the problem of categorising CSS pages [09:23:28] Hello! What are the conditions on transforming a wiki from one topic to another? They are related, but it's kinda of like expanding it to cover multiple topics instead of one specific one. I'd like the names changed. Who can help, please contact me/ping me here. Thank you! [09:23:58] I believe scope changes need steward approval, if I remember right. [09:38:20] notification is desired yes, to ensure the change is not to something that would result in a problem later [09:53:58] [1/2] how do i remove the color choosing here? [09:53:58] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1442815568863559791/Screenshot_20251125-065327.png?ex=6926ce35&is=69257cb5&hm=34501b508adf379c53d7911514197b19649b6a51b06571cf55f1c43bb95bd755& [10:11:41] [1/5] ``` [10:11:42] [2/5] #skin-client-prefs-skin-theme { [10:11:42] [3/5] display:none [10:11:42] [4/5] } [10:11:43] [5/5] ``` [10:11:53] @bartomelow [10:12:05] I'm not sure which setting is the default though [10:12:56] also this made me realise there's some stupid default CSS rule that turns the background here white for larger-than-phone screens... without changing the text colour [10:13:01] 🤦‍♀️ [10:27:38] preferences in restricted [10:28:44] oh wait it's mobileoptions not preferences [10:29:19] i've no idea if mobileoptions is restricted [10:30:40] uhh [10:30:49] can you rephrase that. I have no idea what you're saying [10:31:24] css doesn't work on pages like login, preferences, gadgets [10:31:31] ahh [10:31:34] but i'm not sure if it works on mobileoptions [10:32:20] the "is" becoming "in" threw me off and I was trying to look for a setting somewhere [10:32:44] Only one way to find out? Lol [10:33:29] find a highly customized wiki with mobilefrontend to test [10:33:46] idk which wiki installs mobilefrontend [10:34:00] I actually want to remove that setting too so I'll test it [10:34:34] I wanna work on my wiki but I have no idea what to add in regards to css [10:34:40] sorry i didn [10:35:26] [[mw:Manual:$wgAllowSiteCSSOnRestrictedPages]] this page calls it “restricted” but idk where's a full list of restricted pages [10:35:27]

[10:35:43] these three are from my memory [10:36:26] if mobileoptions is also restricted, using css to hide it would unlikely work [10:37:22] it does seem like the mw-body text colour affects the page though [10:37:28] so maybe it works [10:37:37] then luckily it's not restricted [10:37:37] but I'll find out for sure in a bit [10:52:47] yeah works [11:16:58] any stewards active rn? kinda need a wiki to be nuked lol [11:20:13] what's the issue with it [11:21:05] [1/2] its a copy of jbcstudios.miraheze.org (im like 99% that wiki was made before my wiki, but that wiki has been inactive ever since it was made) [11:21:05] [2/2] and im trying to change my wiki's subdomain to that wiki's subdomain [11:22:44] i submitted a request for that wiki to be deleted in april i think [11:23:25] and what was the answer [11:24:40] [1/2] "second wiki" refers to the wiki im trying to get deleted [11:24:41] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1442838396329398272/image.png?ex=6926e378&is=692591f8&hm=63760487a4870ca1144b91fc664d734e7edcdd9d270f87bad4ae7b5e883dce3c& [11:24:43] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Steward_requests/Wiki_reports?diff=next&oldid=462122 [11:25:11] also i just realised i submitted a new request in the wrong section of reports 💀 [11:25:27] i submitted it in wiki (un)deletions [11:35:14] minerva is stinkyy [12:01:16] On second thought nvm lmao [15:03:14] uhm i became administrator of a wiki without asking to be one [15:06:34] then demote yourself ? [15:09:49] [1/3] I'm new to having a wiki and I have an issue with an image, I've been trying to find something in the documentation about it(probably because it's something silly). But an image that I uploaded isn't rendering at all and it's just showing the alt text. I can't figure out why? [15:09:49] [2/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1442895055974305802/Screenshot_20251125-095942.png?ex=6927183d&is=6925c6bd&hm=ebbb48fbae2481dc7a94ab4ed547607e3016acb119690eb62d1b6c188ff8479a& [15:09:50] [3/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1442895056309583923/Screenshot_20251125-095959.png?ex=6927183d&is=6925c6bd&hm=b3f76e9c42d9a41c2dfa342ce1d9da1cef23e77b788b444c35ecaf52435afbcb& [15:10:24] happens lol [15:10:40] [1/2] Yeah sometimes it happens. [15:10:40] [2/2] I just ask them to remove me from that role again as I am not interested [15:11:12] but yeah, ask them to demote if it's just admin, if it's bureau you'll have to [[SR/P]] [15:11:13]

[15:11:19] Some still ignore that. So I am admin of calendarwiki [15:11:58] images aren't linked like that [15:12:13] it must be just filename w/ format [15:12:26] Omg tysm [15:12:46] `[[File:BES Logo.webp|...]]` [19:19:37] [1/13] Despite having `TabberNeue` on, tabbers are converting everything into regular text rather than using the right stuff. [19:19:37] [2/13] ``` [19:19:37] [3/13] [19:19:38] [4/13] [19:19:38] [5/13] |-|{{{1|Tabber 1}}}= [19:19:38] [6/13] content wheee [19:19:39] [7/13] |-|[[Placeholder.png|20px]] Hi= [19:19:39] [8/13] wheee [19:19:39] [9/13] /tabber [19:19:40] [10/13] /onlyinclude /includeonly [19:19:40] [11/13] ``` [19:19:40] [12/13] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1442957919808393356/image.png?ex=692752c8&is=69260148&hm=fa8f50a3e64d002746269b7127f4ec74be7c9ea186ec501c509c286f9ffadf95& [19:19:41] [13/13] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1442957920298995815/image.png?ex=692752c9&is=69260149&hm=eb954c351443729b0c4d28083c0b0e3159e12ff81d999a5832ab0d89213d7f84& [19:21:21] Does bold work [19:22:08] you need to put `File:` for an image to work [19:22:18] Ignore, turns out bureau didn't enable a setting [19:22:18] True [19:22:24] Also thats just me being stupid [19:22:32] hi friends, if i want to write a JS tool that only exists on one page of the wiki, what's the best way to store/load the JS? [19:22:44] i want to create a simple text-input tool to help my editors generate citations [19:24:40] [1/2] idk if this method still works lel [19:24:40] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1442959191341011167/image.png?ex=692753f8&is=69260278&hm=94213bb6024591e37b6b007225c359f1f2a08891282df85ec2fdd3296a98b0ae& [19:25:39] It should [19:25:43] okay awesome [19:25:48] i dont feel like figuring out how gadgets work [19:25:50] <-- CHUD [19:26:04] Though I think there maaaaay be a format to have it on a page in the mw space that only loads on one page [19:26:36] i know how to load css by one page but idk for js :brokerthink: [19:27:13] What’s the format of title [19:28:04] itll probably be PW:Cite or somethingg [19:28:18] I meant for loading css on one page [19:28:22] [1/2] would anyone be willing to help me out with an infobox image issue [19:28:22] [2/2] https://discord.com/channels/407504499280707585/1442727430120017983 [19:28:46] oh uhh its templatestyles i think [19:28:51] Ah [19:28:57] So not that uh [19:36:48] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1438462177987006534/1442957298149625897/image.png?ex=69275234&is=692600b4&hm=9fad17a3d9514c163a02418dc6fa49a8ad94789e721cbedd8ec02727d17e7345& [19:49:08] You can create a gadget that is only loaded on pages in a specific category [19:52:43] is there any guides for creating a gadget? fwiw though i literally only want it on one page LOL [19:59:25] if you're trying to use tabber inside a template you should it as parser function, not tags, see instruction on mw.org [20:01:02] it turned out the solution to this problem was a config setting in TabberNeue to parse wikitext in tab titles [20:01:20] i was helping troubleshoot and couldnt figure out what was different between our wikis until i noticed that LOL. theyve since turned it on and it seems to be working [20:19:02] is there any miraheze-supported extensions or methods to use the html tags `` and `` on a wiki? [20:19:46] and/or is there any way to santizie them 😭 [20:23:30] [1/2] [20:23:30] [2/2] I haven't tested this but I assume `* mygadget[ResourceLoader|categories=MyCategory]|mygadget.js` would work [20:24:19] i see i see [20:24:58] i found but i dont want the input to do anything, i just want to access it via JS [20:25:00] There's https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:InputBox. If you want an input box with arbitrary functionality, ues JavaScript. [20:25:11] do i have to insert the input boxes with JS? [20:25:15] Yes. [20:25:20] alright thank you, ill do that [20:25:46] You can probably leverage the existing inputbox by hiding the submit button via CSS. An ugly hack, but it might work. [20:26:11] nodnods [20:31:06] okay great generating it by JS works LOL thank you very much [20:36:50] [1/2] https://issue-tracker.miraheze.org/T14590 [20:36:51] [2/2] 🎉 [20:37:13] ty [20:43:19] yeah that's how you do it, although it's probably a better idea to do it like the example in https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Help:How_to_add_a_JavaScript_gadget_to_my_wikihttps://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Help:How_to_add_a_JavaScript_gadget_to_my_wiki [20:43:52] [1/4] i.e. ``` [20:43:53] [2/4] if (mw.config.get("wgPageName") !== 'Pagename') { [20:43:53] [3/4] return; [20:43:53] [4/4] }``` [20:44:13] is there a reason to use gadgets over ^ this if the JS is contained to one page? [20:45:54] not really any reason, you could load it from common.js if you wanted [20:46:06] I just linked the gadgets page because it has the example [20:46:08] It increases the amount of JS loaded on all pages [20:46:28] we do already have like 10 scripts running so FGKJSDGKLSDG [20:46:34] lol [20:46:42] our core vitals suck no matter what i do so [20:46:53] that makss sense, thanks for the link [20:47:36] [1/4] you can also do ```js [20:47:36] [2/4] if (mw.config.get("wgPageName") !== 'Pagename') { [20:47:36] [3/4] mw.loader.load('blahblahblah'); [20:47:37] [4/4] }``` in common.js [20:47:54] oh thats a good way to do it, thank you [20:48:00] that way the js will only be loaded when necessary [20:48:30] and even if it isn't you're only executing 1 line of code [21:13:52] i've been making my ui in User/common.css thing, but i was wondering, when i'm happy with it where do i put it? do i dump it all into common.css or is there a better way to handle it [21:21:54] if you mean elements which are same across all skins like editor or recent changes, then keep that in common.css [21:33:15] i dont really know, i'm very new to this. what other places is there to put stuff? (and what would be put in them as an example) [21:37:44] How do per page css themes work? [21:40:43] [1/4] `MediaWiki:Common.css` is the "main" CSS page, code in there will work regardless of which skin is used and is critical for @import (fonts from outside places, other CSS pages, etc) [21:40:44] [2/4] then there are skin specific CSS pages, for example default Miraheze skin is called Vector 2022, so its page will be `MediaWiki:Vector2022.css`; when you modify look of your wiki it's usually about modified exactly a skin, so it's better to keep these changes on skins' pages (while things general regardless of skin/layout would go to Common.css) [21:40:44] [3/4] there's personal CSS which would work only for you and nobody else, it's good for testing because changes in there are up right away, it must at `User:Username/common.css` [21:40:44] [4/4] totally custom CSS pages w/ `MediaWiki:` prefix can be created, but they had to be imported to Common.css to work, or they might be used by extensions or gadgets, but that's another thing [21:46:06] [1/2] after a bit of thinking, i guess it's better to put ui code in skin CSS too [21:46:06] [2/2] my case is a tad different cus I enabled 2 skins on my wiki and they're both modified [21:49:26] Is Miraheze slow for anyone else? Since yesterday, I've been having slow response times when editing pages or loading images. [21:55:11] okay awesome, thank you sm [22:00:29] I managed to do 4 custom css pages and inported them to Vector 2022 css [22:06:45] i had no issues [22:42:48] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Steward_requests/(Un)deletions and https://issue-tracker.miraheze.org/T14586 [22:59:52] [1/6] sorry to bother you, is this the correct syntax for this code? [22:59:52] [2/6] ```js [22:59:52] [3/6] if (mw.config.get("wgPageName") === "PW:Cite") { [22:59:53] [4/6] mw.loader.load('MediaWiki:Citer.js'); [22:59:53] [5/6] } [22:59:53] [6/6] ``` [23:08:41] i couldnt seem to get mw.loader to work but importScript did [23:13:08] [Example](https://strinova.org/wiki/MediaWiki%3ACommon.js#L-57) [23:13:25] `mw.loader.load("/wiki/MediaWiki:MMDViewerInit.js?action=raw&ctype=text/javascript");` [23:16:27] oh it has to be the file? [23:18:25] `mw.loader.load` is designed to work on any file (including CSS) hosted anywhere on the internet, while `importScript` is afaik only designed for working on files hosted on the current wiki [23:19:03] see [[User:TheWWRNerdGuy/JavaScript]] which I'm currently working on so I'd like some feedback from beginners lol [23:19:04]