[00:50:48] [1/3] Neither of these images on our new wiki is working: [00:50:48] [2/3] https://leunissendoranproductionswiki.miraheze.org/wiki/File:Dg8i8f5-b3ad5dde-a583-4047-b593-97596ec8cedf.jpg [00:50:48] [3/3] https://leunissendoranproductionswiki.miraheze.org/wiki/File:Russell_filburn_as_ballerino_by_vinh_chau_le_1995_dg8m9bi-414w-2x.jpg [00:50:50] ill just put the updated list in the same task i made [00:52:07] [1/2] actually hold on [00:52:07] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1395206395921432718/image.png?ex=68799ab6&is=68784936&hm=71c0365a70b50e3fe0558063b33452705572d36b4feb0a965b1cd125831cfc3a& [00:59:22] [1/3] well thats funny [00:59:22] [2/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1395208222989746206/image.png?ex=68799c6a&is=68784aea&hm=6cf1806bdd1f813d73409909efa1cd64762aa6b0d4b6486c2a8b05855435e85d& [00:59:23] [3/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1395208223237083336/image.png?ex=68799c6a&is=68784aea&hm=a3ec0763829d05298b2293ae2cf85f56a2bc4082ccf57cd36cbfa47cf4b6461d& [01:00:05] where [01:00:36] https://issue-tracker.miraheze.org/T13982 [01:00:42] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1395208558206914650/image.png?ex=68799cb9&is=68784b39&hm=0e39ad1851a3124e9204c7d44461567a5ce2ef34df35c7d106579f364cd65957& [01:01:05] yeah the cert for wikitide is fucked give it a moment [01:01:23] well now i need to add "File:" to all of these [01:01:36] 560 lines [01:01:37] 🥀 [01:05:41] [1/2] done!!!!!!!! [01:05:41] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1395209812878299146/image.png?ex=68799de5&is=68784c65&hm=9df5a7cccaf35bd51f440c17a5630d1c5c090c9bef4463a9e7685e57ae77ec84& [01:06:00] somebody summon claire i pinger her too often 🥀 [01:07:38] claire is dealing with a bigger problem :3 [01:07:49] ah oki [01:21:37] @prabhasxd ok you should be able to download that file now [01:21:49] or do you still want claire to be bullied [01:27:23] oh yeah you do [01:27:57] #clocked [01:28:05] @blankeclair rename files attempt #4344 for this guy https://issue-tracker.miraheze.org/T13982 [01:28:15] meow~ [01:28:24] i _just_ unplugged my yurikey to fidget w/ it lol [01:28:35] attach file pls [01:29:37] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1395215833281724457/1752715774197.png?ex=6879a380&is=68785200&hm=6e77aec9e41acd82bdfe2867e312a87c0537fa5ed6c2af9083abc7cd6d910719& [01:29:42] [1/4] im crying phorge is cooked [01:29:42] [2/4] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1395215855192637441/image.png?ex=6879a385&is=68785205&hm=4871cf1830be7267e6e2e5cc7efd1c949c6ec5d95aaf0abbb1b0535a8a6cdace& [01:29:43] [3/4] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1395215855431716954/image.png?ex=6879a385&is=68785205&hm=362cdbbaff3f6a9857617019cd28b68795a64cfa9fdc2a2feb91e2be73c65760& [01:29:43] [4/4] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1395215855805141032/renamed_files_3.txt?ex=6879a385&is=68785205&hm=37b1640d3b5a36e9e007019594613db3ce7612cfb752c58aee80272d212f407d& [01:29:59] how could you see that wtf [01:30:06] front page view [01:30:15] im blessed [01:30:26] also i think https://issue-tracker.miraheze.org/F4655835 [01:30:28] still works [01:30:29] i'm perplexed as to how [01:31:14] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1395216242318639105/1752715871399.png?ex=6879a3e2&is=68785262&hm=4179d5efdfa5faede9df812b0d846033f0fcf00ada498c136a9db3b70f974a6b& [01:32:00] phorge really be cooked [01:36:49] Bro i go offline for a minute 💔 [01:37:00] It is attached [01:37:18] not for me ^^; [01:37:19] I edited the reply because the file I sent had some mistakes in it so i attached a new one [01:37:35] The hell [01:37:37] uhoh [01:37:46] yeah i think your new one is cooked bud [01:38:17] you have to manually attach them in phorge [01:38:21] it's a whole process that i forgor [01:38:22] or it seems to be private [01:38:23] Wha [01:38:29] try going on [[phorge:F4655836]] -> attached tab [01:38:30] [01:38:33] i _think_ there's an attach button [01:38:45] On mobile rn [01:38:49] Is this the new one??? [01:38:49] The one you can view on the activity is (which is attached), the updated comment is for (read the last number carefully) [01:38:59] yup [01:39:14] i love not paying attention to 1 number :3 [01:40:03] Ok this stupid blurb about my timezone is blocking from clicking the submit button [01:40:21] tap to reconcile your timezone smh [01:40:37] I already did!!!! Eons ago!!!! [01:40:53] Yeah @blankeclair there's a submit button [01:41:10] uh wha [01:41:12] is that for comments? [01:41:31] Oh wait [01:41:32] Yeah [01:41:51] there's an attached tb [01:41:51] tab [01:42:01] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1395218955617960006/IMG_20250717_071148.jpg?ex=6879a668&is=687854e8&hm=09942a765aa910accb8054b57bb550a84ed4ddf5441096fc90125fc41b2961f5& [01:42:16] scroll all the way down [01:42:21] I did wwait [01:42:33] oh [01:42:42] Yeah I see the tab [01:43:18] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1395219279057518753/IMG_20250717_071309.jpg?ex=6879a6b6&is=68785536&hm=dd2bce406caee0a8d95dccacc79b9d9aaeaf3c7a4baf0bd5d1090b2889d7a993& [01:43:41] I'll look into this in a couple of mine once I get on my pc [01:45:48] try clicking the file not attached label [01:52:17] [1/2] @blankeclair yup [01:52:17] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1395221538562642131/image.png?ex=6879a8d0&is=68785750&hm=5f886186542770293581ad81d72d9b4f52e3375d93756a1f5deb323a97c12677& [01:52:18] on pc now [01:52:23] muchhhh better [01:53:19] lets throw in another ping for good measure~ [02:00:55] prabhas getting clocked 😭😭 [02:11:04] looks cool [02:14:38] a series on how transvestigations hurt cis people as well [02:42:06] [1/2] how do i make this popup in miraheze [02:42:06] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1395234072435097640/image.png?ex=6879b47d&is=687862fd&hm=6341f22c81c54630b0544429bfe5206b80aab2bffe1ecf98d400fbd0ec136c88& [02:42:11] where if u hover over shit [02:42:16] u get the definition [02:44:26] https://www.w3schools.com/css/css_tooltip.asp [02:46:24] or the SimpleTooltip extension [03:55:29] Every day around this time, miraheze gets very slow or just won't load. Is it just me? [03:58:01] my wiki is loading fine. yours probably lacks the sauce [04:39:41] [1/2] why does this happen [04:39:41] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1395263667632734209/image.png?ex=6879d00d&is=68787e8d&hm=3e0a99476b971dbfabcd94fc926c77616d2450c5696ec327bf1b451b2f660b15& [04:39:49] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1395263702483341333/image.png?ex=6879d015&is=68787e95&hm=5082a3e3ecf3bb9698d9320cc1ab67b987726e6a261dbdb8133ae578cb5ebc78& [04:40:11] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1395263792006561913/image.png?ex=6879d02a&is=68787eaa&hm=dd5b9223c7f384d4652bcf720ea35afe71c88a3d8935518f22b908aec8852e02& [04:40:16] you put a spacebreak in the beginning of a line [04:40:28] [1/2] `hdhdhdhd [04:40:29] [2/2] hshshsh` [04:41:25] what [04:41:28] i dont see the spacebreak [04:42:14] link? or private wiki! [04:42:32] wiki is only editable on a whitelisted basis but i can link it here [04:42:33] https://ubg.miraheze.org/wiki/Hitman [04:42:37] https://ubg.miraheze.org/wiki/Template:WhiffPunish [04:43:03] Can anyone help me with some button styling in #support [04:45:46] We will get to you when someone has the time [04:46:01] 👍 [04:46:13] [1/2] never leave this much space before noinclude, just put it right away [04:46:14] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1395265311598579795/IMG_20250717_084538.jpg?ex=6879d195&is=68788015&hm=be0296b301d29afbf98cba7a4de9b1058012aa93649b3067019dd501c234b477& [04:46:16] Well, I already responded to you, so... [04:46:21] ah [04:47:14] doesn't look like it fixed it though [04:47:52] Also, you are missing a closing `noinclude` tag. It's supposed to be `/noinclude`. [04:48:21] oops [04:48:26] still doesn't look like it fixed it [04:48:39] :SadCat: [04:49:44] `noinclude` needs to be on the same line as `ll attack and whiff).}}` [04:50:17] YES!!!!!!!!! [04:50:19] that fixed it [04:50:20] thank you [04:50:35] what i told you man [04:50:48] i misread [04:50:58] i thought just killing that space was enough [04:51:00] not on the same line [04:52:11] Welcome to wikitext [06:44:06] is there a way to automatically add content to a page based on something like its category? [06:59:49] MassEditRegex can do it. [07:06:21] Just wrote a [draft CSS guide](https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/User:PetraMagna/CSS). As usual, feedback is welcome. [07:24:00] Hello, one of my wiki colleagues sent in a extension request for NamespacePaths via Phorge a couple of days ago and I was wondering why it's been on the Security Review Needed stage for quite a while [07:32:05] Extension security reviews will be months [07:32:18] There are 14 ahead of you [07:32:32] Oh, gotcha! [07:33:21] A few days for anything other than custom domains & imports would be a miracle tbh [07:33:39] Our technology team are small and busy [07:34:36] i think there's like one of us who doesn't have adhd [07:36:42] i know im not the person without it [08:26:04] [1/2] I should've asked for an extension security review in exchange for testing extensions. Too late now: more than 60% already tested and confirmed to be (mostly) working. [08:26:05] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1395320639094521948/image.png?ex=687a051c&is=6878b39c&hm=7b6a246a07254cd3753721fa46577601c5c43a31d2c9917d3485b5d75cbe9489& [10:25:06] what could this possibly mean lmao [10:25:38] which part? transvestigations? hurting cis people? [10:26:30] everything [10:27:01] transvestigations = people trying to 'expose' someone's transness based on random things like bone structure that they can't see [10:27:41] https://www.thepinknews.com/2024/04/14/what-is-transvestigating-the-transphobic-online-conspiracy-theories/ [10:29:21] [1/6] as for transvestigations hurting cis people: [10:29:21] [2/6] * https://www.vox.com/2016/5/18/11690234/women-bathrooms-harassment [10:29:21] [3/6] * https://www.refinery29.com/en-gb/bathroom-transphobia-butch-women [10:29:22] [4/6] * https://www.thepinknews.com/2025/05/07/liberty-hotel-boston-bathroom-lesbian-trans/ [10:29:22] [5/6] * https://www.lgbtqnation.com/2025/03/cops-burst-into-womens-restroom-to-remove-butch-lesbian-accusing-her-of-being-a-man/ [10:29:22] [6/6] * https://abcnews.go.com/US/transphobia-impact-gender-stereotypes-advocates/story?id=102129254 [10:47:50] uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhmmmmmmmmmmmmmm [10:47:55] ok...................................... [11:01:56] can i talk to a wiki stewrd [11:03:19] @Stewards can i ping them? [11:07:23] what for? [11:08:19] My wiki got closed so I wanted an appeal or at least some clarification [11:08:50] [1/2] ah, which? [11:08:51] [2/2] (fyi, i'm a tech team member, not a steward, but i presume that them knowing the wiki beforehand would be handy ^^;) [11:09:16] Primwiki [11:09:32] Also thanks [11:09:40] [1/2] > This wiki has been automatically closed because there have been no edits or log actions made within the last 120 days. Since this wiki is private, it cannot be reopened by any user through the normal reopening request process. If this wiki is not reopened within 6 months, it may be deleted. Note: If you are a bureaucrat on this wiki, you can go to Special:ManageWiki and uncheck [11:09:40] [2/2] the "Closed" box to reopen it. [11:09:57] go to [[mh:primwiki:Special:ManageWiki]], and you should be able to uncheck the closed box and save ^_^ [11:09:58] [11:14:34] [1/2] i cant [11:14:34] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1395363042539339848/image.png?ex=687a2c99&is=6878db19&hm=f59393b741e1490dfaa554258848eaaf14cb632bb6c15002c007c9fd1208ff84& [11:14:41] oh, sorry [11:15:25] oh, it basically just closed: https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:Log?logid=1467688 [11:15:33] @notaracham ^ [11:15:52] can i like [11:15:52] appeal that [11:16:40] yeah, you should've received a talk page message on the wiki i believe [11:17:51] email stewards@miraheze.org iirc [11:18:50] i emailed it [11:18:58] oki ^_^ [11:21:47] thank you [11:23:32] yw [11:58:32] oh right [11:58:34] has the move been done [12:04:45] do anyone noticed 503s? [12:16:33] i am certain and sure that she will let you know if it is [14:53:26] been wondering how the binding of issac wiki does this [14:53:47] basically on my wiki theres a page which lists every single item ingame with descriptions [14:54:28] and updating them is a pain in the butt [14:54:43] the binding of issac wiki solves this issue by somewhat [14:54:51] linking a wikitable to an infobox??? [14:54:53] if that makes sense [14:55:43] [1/4] left: wikitable [14:55:43] [2/4] right: item's article [14:55:43] [3/4] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1395418696003878973/image.png?ex=687a606e&is=68790eee&hm=2e2abc5f0bbbaebf2215595988910e5391539fab9c171a68d8aa2c8971886223& [14:55:44] [4/4] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1395418696360525896/image.png?ex=687a606e&is=68790eee&hm=10ac5a1c39e9a10de19f8663af2f2e1ad04015347e5ae263c4403ff51fa664fc& [14:55:51] so i was wondering on how i can replicate this [14:56:23] [1/2] https://bindingofisaacrebirth.wiki.gg/wiki/Items [14:56:23] [2/2] https://bindingofisaacrebirth.wiki.gg/wiki/A_Pony (as an example) [15:13:48] [1/2] does css imports like these works on miraheze? [15:13:49] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1395423250045210745/image.png?ex=687a64ac&is=6879132c&hm=28aba5f0e1c7aa0bdbcff20e18b8b532d8922bcaa6858910bc9f37c14b3d1bb5& [15:19:45] I completely forgot to ask when I did, and this might be a dumb question: will the extension of NamespacePaths be retroactively applied to all namespaces that are currently existing or is it a specific process to do so? It doesn't explicitly say in the documentation [15:26:25] No more images displayed on my wiki [15:26:52] However, they are displayed in the file list. [15:27:01] better to ask creators of extension or in (unofficial) mediawiki discord, since I feel like very few people here will have experience w/ it [15:28:14] Link if you want to check: https://fiction.miraheze.org/wiki/ [15:48:22] it looks like they're using Cargo, but I bet you could do this with dynamic page list 3 [15:48:37] yeah i have no clue how to even use cargo [15:48:43] whats dynamic page list 3? [15:49:45] it's an extension that lets you create lists from items in a category [15:50:18] https://tfm2.miraheze.org/wiki/Champion_Abilities [15:50:27] here is an example from my wiki [15:51:10] here is another good example [16:04:04] so this basically follows the same premise? [16:12:37] i think sso [18:43:49] [1/2] is there a way to edit an infobox in portable infobox builder after publishing [18:43:49] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1395476099684630639/image.png?ex=687a95e4&is=68794464&hm=a1bdcd3b40d3a435223b3d46669270704609056133233963327cafc13b8dfc2c& [18:43:59] i wanna edit the table [18:44:46] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1395476340802584596/image.png?ex=687a961e&is=6879449e&hm=a0a02db2c036d770d670f4cb4e77f7921934b9d3c0ee70e3a6f8c3fb4e3fdcaf& [18:47:44] [1/4] open the template's page with the source code editor (raw wikitext, not the visual editor) and delete something that should look like: [18:47:44] [2/4] ``` [18:47:44] [3/4]
Header/header [18:47:45] [4/4] ``` [18:48:00] [1/2] ex. [18:48:00] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1395477153604309042/Screenshot_2025-07-17_at_11.46.02_AM.png?ex=687a96e0&is=68794560&hm=fc0d71090acb6c0c42933beaabb5ffae3f985f5437a12201975d799eb656a0db& [18:48:16] ok [18:49:56] But no you can't edit a PI in the visual builder afterwards, but once you made a few PI's, you are probably not even gonna use the builder anymore to create them, as a bit of copy paste and manual edit, quickly becomes faster, once you learn the basic tags (not to mention PI can do FAR FAR FAR FAR more, than what the builder allows, due to it's myriad of other tags) [18:51:55] [1/2] On Chinese Wikipedia the percentage of removal was uncertain for a lomg time,later it becomes 50% [18:51:56] [2/2] Now the percentage to pass the admin election is 75%, and thru the consensus. [19:16:24] is there a way to protect all pages or do i have to do it manually [19:17:14] limit edit rights to a namespace or remove edit rights from user group [19:18:13] where do i remove edit rights from everyone [19:18:25] manage wiki permissions? [19:19:43] [1/2] Good progress so far [19:19:43] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1395485134714703882/image.png?ex=687a9e4e&is=68794cce&hm=a0bdf1ce4867dc0d42f7327e891b1db93bdd9df4fe056c49ecfd859c76825b91& [19:19:51] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1395485169410113596/image.png?ex=687a9e57&is=68794cd7&hm=54e55d59bd1c993b6f8fd1faa6f2b03550f273bcf1a77bbaa838b13ab5730e72& [19:19:54] yes [19:20:14] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1395485265019015220/image.png?ex=687a9e6e&is=68794cee&hm=11fe5f9613ba07f184524ec9293b663f7914d4de85921600da3b844221b8c24a& [19:20:37] This is starting to feel more developed than the original wiki already [19:26:28] theres also the ProtectSite extension [19:27:06] [1/2] this? [19:27:06] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1395486991713439915/image.png?ex=687aa009&is=68794e89&hm=eed4c45efbef03b7d3a0034c76d5881ce659a88071a387e7abb192d3e2295c25& [19:27:21] when i search ProtectSite nothing pops up [19:28:52] yeup [20:23:15] 50% for removal is fair, as is 75% to pass [21:43:01] <2bhank> where can i request a namespace be nuked on my wiki [21:45:19] can't you delete it in managewiki? [21:45:27] or do you mean delete all pages in a namespace [21:45:37] <2bhank> delete all pages in a namespace [21:50:52] 2bhank: a phorge task would be easiest atm ([[Phorge]]) [21:50:54] @link [21:50:54] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Phorge [21:55:03] <2bhank> o7 thank you. would i request under bugs/anything else? [21:55:18] normal task will do [21:55:51] ngl, i tried to see if Special:Nuke would work, but filtering by namespace seems to fail for some reason? [21:56:28] <2bhank> it seems built for New changes? i could be wrong but i also struggled to use it [21:58:20] <2bhank> would i put anything into "assigned user"? [21:58:37] [1/2] NukeDPL might work? This is what I get on the extension testing wiki. [21:58:37] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1395525122076577822/image.png?ex=687ac38c&is=6879720c&hm=3b7a27ee18ec010f24d0fb650da7055088359b1d71d12084c338a902dc113c75& [22:00:34] oh neat [22:00:36] <2bhank> ill try that [22:01:55] [1/2] you wouldn't [22:01:55] [2/2] you need only worry about the title and the description, anything else can be filled in later by whoever handles the ticket [22:02:27] hell, even the form isn't that important, unless it's a security issue [22:03:30] but try out nukedpl first yeah [22:03:37] <2bhank, replying to posix_memalign> [1/2] i dont understand why nothing shows up for me? [22:03:37] <2bhank, replying to posix_memalign> [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1395526380594139277/image.png?ex=687ac4b8&is=68797338&hm=64b65b1ddd8dd7fb5768251aa6afe73725d8397f5aa40187a6326a281036a9f0& [22:03:45] <2bhank> been having this issue since last night [22:04:04] period! [22:04:48] <2bhank> im only going to the forms because nukedpl isnt like. displaying this kinda list [22:06:43] can you try namespace = 10 [22:06:51] that's the id for the template namespace [22:07:17] <2bhank> same result [22:07:55] Could you send a link to your wiki? [22:08:14] <2bhank> https://madnesscombat.miraheze.org/wiki/Main_Page [22:09:16] Hmmm. I wonder if it has anything to do with using DPL instead of DPL3. [22:09:42] <2bhank> how would one choose that? if at all [22:10:15] In ManageWiki. Disable dynamicpagelist and enable dynamicpagelist3. It may break other parts of your wiki if you use features exclusive to DPL, though. [22:10:31] <2bhank> ill go do that, thank you [22:10:49] oh yeah that might be it [22:11:04] imagine if DPL4 breaks it [22:11:19] i imagine that would happen if the extension is renamed to that [22:12:09] <2bhank> oh it works now! that was it [22:12:11] <2bhank> thank you [22:12:21] yippee :3 [22:12:34] [1/2] Aha. I reproduced your issue too. Looks like DPL is the culprit. [22:12:34] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1395528632675467264/image.png?ex=687ac6d1&is=68797551&hm=8ec759e73a097e599f1f78b9a2b3b564ae15198217d3face6f49e5d3b7fcbd73& [22:12:45] Yay! [22:13:03] You are welcome. I learned something new as well. [22:14:38] i mean dpl3 is a hard dependency for nukedpl [22:15:18] <2bhank> i accidentally pressed send on a phorge thing so im just gonna edit that ive figured it out. unsure how to delete but oh well [22:15:29] I don't think there are any features that are exclusive to DPL, it sound likr DPL3 is specifically made to be backwards compatible with the original DPL from it's extension page https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:DynamicPageList3#Backwards_Compatibility [22:16:29] 2bhank: you can close the task as resolved [22:16:41] <2bhank> thank you o7 [22:17:00] Anyone else getting Error 503 Backend fetch failed? [22:17:12] scream if it stays like that for longer than 3 minutes [22:17:25] just refreshing will help in most cases [22:17:34] Ah there we go! [22:17:43] but dpl3 isn't backwards compatible with dpl :p [22:17:50] I refreshed a bunch of times but it only worked now LOL [22:17:53] what am i even saying [22:17:59] What if it stays like that for 2 minutes [22:18:02] dpl3 features wont work in dpl, if nukedpl uses any [22:18:05] [1/3] Yeah that's what the documentation says too https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:NukeDPL [22:18:05] [2/3] We should just change ManageWiki and make `dynamicpagelist3` a required dependency instead of that "OR" relation. [22:18:06] [3/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1395530022256902144/image.png?ex=687ac81d&is=6879769d&hm=6145ce8a3fe7315e86603cc8c852bf985859e5a4779a3fe5967cb93a0e3043d8& [22:18:17] ah, that's fair [22:18:22] i'll make a PR rq then [22:18:52] I mean that just a sentence that is bollock, as DPL is the newer version... so it would have to be forward campatible? then... and certainly not relevant to what I was commenting on [22:19:13] that's what i said about my own sentence lmao [22:19:20] . [22:20:41] I wonder if that'll result in unsatisfied dependencies for wikis that use both DPL and NukeDPL. Would ManageWiki disable NukeDPL automatically? That seems to be the only sane choice since forcefully migrating users to DPL3 doesn't sound right. [22:27:45] [1/2] i'll test rq how much of nukedpl even works with dpl rn [22:27:46] [2/2] i dont think managewiki would do anything upon changing the requirement [22:31:39] [1/2] In my testing, even though something like `namespace = Template` works perfectly fine on an article, it doesn't result in any pages on Special:NukeDPL. I suspect that no page list will be generated no matter what the input is. [22:31:39] [2/2] Will ManageWiki reject the request the next time a bureaucrat tries to toggle an extension then? It seems to be a reasonable outcome, but the user might be confused that they can't do anything on ManageWiki. [22:35:40] -# period! [22:36:06] [1/2] nukedpl seems to use the tag for queries, supported by dpl3; whileas dpl uses , so no query ever will work indeed [22:36:06] [2/2] not quite sure what you mean by the second paragraph, but I am making a PR to remove dpl as a possible requirement; this shouldn't impede users at all [22:36:17] and of course, I'll test the config in case of any issues [22:36:50] for my next trick I will push to prod without testing [22:40:43] @blankeclair how easy would it be to disable NukeDPL for the old DPL users? [22:41:09] annoying, but probably possible [22:41:19] why don't we make nukedpl compatible w/ both i wonder [22:41:58] damn you can't just offer a better solution to my very lazy solution [22:42:21] probably wouldn't be too difficult [22:44:24] The original requirement is a OR relationship. So this change will invalidate extension configurations that enable both DPL and NukeDPL. [22:45:12] and to the best of my knowledge, nothing would happen in that scenario [22:45:30] both exts would remain enabled [22:46:46] Wouldn't changes in Special:ManageWiki/extensions be rejected then? The backend should detect that NukeDPL's dependency is not satisfied and reject any requests that don't fix it, which would be confusing for users who are touching some other extension. [22:47:47] I think that would be a good solution, though. [22:47:56] I'm pretty sure that's only checked when enabling NukeDPL [22:48:02] regardless I've opted to patch NukeDPL instead [22:49:19] Except that we don't have a notification system for these sort of changes yet. Vibe coding a notification feature in `ToggleExtension.php` maybe? [22:49:37] Ah that's the superior option. [22:49:54] easier than possible db shenanigans of disabling nukedpl for dpl users [22:50:19] anything to keep me away from using sql [22:50:47] (except that the boilerplate preload for NukeDPL probably contains some DPL3 features, so users might expect all of these to work with DPL) [22:51:33] [1/2] TBH this is a pretty long list and I'm not sure if all of them are in DPL. CA might know? [22:51:33] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1395538443920085105/image.png?ex=687acff4&is=68797e74&hm=938e333e2d9c7356ff8e2b641390103ac0f9cabc713c122f4efe6dbe521afd81& [22:54:21] first one in the list does not exist in dpl lol [22:55:36] i'll add a warning to the special page [22:55:52] Maybe a warning for users not using DPL3 or a different preload? Someone else from tech might have a better solution if we wait a bit. [22:57:09] not changing the preload but will note that it is a dpl3 specific preload [23:04:39] Hello, I made a new wiki for a massive worldbuilding project of mine, which would be a blend of wikipedia inspired and wiktonary entries for my conworld and conlang, any ideas where I can start and how I should structure things in my wiki? Should I use a namespaces or categories for this task? [23:07:18] with a very clear divide of historical vs folkloric, I'd use namespaces yeah [23:09:25] [1/2] would it be a bad practice if I used several of them? [23:09:25] [2/2] I want to organize them according to Lexicon, Language (in general), Portals (page portals), History and Mythology [23:10:00] I am not so sure how page portals are handled, I will need to document myself, hopefully I can find information [23:10:31] I don't think so, no