[00:04:46] [1/2] how do i make these images pop up when you hover your mouse over them [00:04:46] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1392295378803626027/image.png?ex=686f039d&is=686db21d&hm=d746cfd4b49708939e1957ac78f9f0cc25ef2fb463596a07e4a4166680c3ccd7& [00:50:55] [1/5] ```css [00:50:55] [2/5] .classfortheseimageshere:not(:hover) { [00:50:55] [3/5] display: none; [00:50:55] [4/5] } [00:50:56] [5/5] ``` [04:43:48] [1/2] quick question for theming concepting: [04:43:48] [2/2] can you check if the site is in light or dark mode? (if so, how?) [05:03:32] html.skin-theme-clientpref-{day,night,os} [05:04:02] detecting night mode if on `os` requires you to also use a media query [05:04:17] so you effectively have to double your night styles: one for the night class, and one for os class + night media query [05:43:38] [1/2] feelin' good about myself right now, i managed to figure out image mapping [05:43:38] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1392380656264155187/Screen_Shot_2025-07-09_at_1.42.40_AM.png?ex=686f5309&is=686e0189&hm=1db4828a69476e56088300648dfb9da925750ce1f195b4bd08581ba4a4d86155& [05:52:17] \o/ [05:52:27] doesn't sound fun to write though xD [06:11:48] [1/3] How can I get these thumbnails to be animated? I'm positive that they fit the "Max Animated Gif Area" size but they wont animate. Heres a link if needed [06:11:48] [2/3] https://projectremixroblox.miraheze.org/wiki/Ban_Hammer [06:11:48] [3/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1392387746194128936/image.png?ex=686f59a4&is=686e0824&hm=438e93491e7d01da25140ce2f9373d5c3795139e474e03f48d276664fb99cced& [06:13:24] That sounds like it'll render terribly outside of desktop, but so friggin' cool [06:14:24] i believe just over time it starts being able to render the animated gif? because my wiki also had that issue when we first added the images but now it plays all of them simultaneously when you check the gallery section [06:14:45] don't quote me on that though :viestaf: [06:14:54] I see then, Ill give it some time then, thanks! [06:43:14] thanks! [06:43:19] yw ^_^ [07:56:41] oh my goodness i love ur wiki's styling [07:58:20] Ah thank you 🥺🥺, that means alot [08:21:30] [1/3] oh, oh, also, [08:21:30] [2/3] can dark mode's graphic invention be turned off? it messes with the style [08:21:30] [3/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1392420384728682526/Screenshot_20250709_152113_com_android_chrome_ChromeTabbedActivity.jpg?ex=686f7809&is=686e2689&hm=578f8c43d968e9fc4f15a85434dedb03ecb9828d97fd862c567061061db9df5e& [08:22:19] (yes i know desktop site on mobile i just prioritise desktop but am away from home rn) [08:26:59] i could definitely manually invert every graphic for it, but itd get tedious im sure [08:49:08] yes! Special:ManageWiki/extensions [09:33:41] This gave me an anyeurism [09:33:44] Css is getting fun i see [10:10:51] yw [10:54:08] Just curious, if I happened to own an IP and had a Fandom Wiki on it, would I be able to request them to close it? (either through a pretty please, DMCA etc.) [11:00:56] It depends. You can get them to remove things like official assets etc, but most stuff would fall under Fair Use [11:01:13] (Although I know many IP owners have had success just asking nicely for them to take it down) [11:48:57] ...what extension? [12:10:05] DarkMode [12:11:13] thanks! [12:18:39] [1/2] ...wait [12:18:39] [2/2] that removed dark mode as an option altogether [12:19:09] i needed it to stay but not darken the images [13:08:28] My Miraheze is suddenly not loading very quickly [14:09:40] yeah, but how often will people see the front page on mobile anyway? [14:14:09] around 50% of meta wiki's traffic is on mobile [14:15:33] 35%-ish on one of my wikis [14:19:43] ah [14:37:08] surprised at that [14:37:59] nearly 60% of human traffic on the net is mobile [14:38:35] https://radar.cloudflare.com/traffic#mobile-vs-desktop [14:40:48] mobile friendly interface is certainly recommended with that amount [14:41:17] indeed [14:42:53] possible with css [14:42:58] [1/2] with Extension:DarkMode you can reverse the invert with [[dev:Disable Dark Mode Invert]], but due to how the invert works, the images wont always look exactly as how they did originally and may have slight brightness differences (how noticeable it is depends on the image) [14:42:59] [2/2] you may want to consider something like [[mw:Extension:ThemeToggle]] instead (though i personally have not used it before) [14:42:59]

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[2/2] [14:50:14] [1/2] Hello! Is there a page to learn about how to modify the width of an article's content, or the content/tool side bar position, size, etc.? [14:50:14] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1392518215065665556/image.png?ex=686fd326&is=686e81a6&hm=504401b05552174fee7e68fd30a5f790277f17d1b441a32bfdcb12ca4f1cf8aa& [14:50:52] I don't like it like that, to be honest [16:15:36] [1/2] is this related to mira or my wiki [16:15:36] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1392539696617230396/image.png?ex=686fe727&is=686e95a7&hm=77dd94b1540030335a7b2e329301634bc248a40c6a8686f36cb73989d56af0f5& [16:16:06] If it persists open a [[phorge]] task so we can look into it [16:16:07]

[16:24:21] [1/3] Cannot figure out why Citizen adds an extra em dash to blockquotes. Been messing with the CSS for 15 minutes now and it's a complete mystery where it's coming from. It displays just fine on Vector 2022 [16:24:21] [2/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1392541898891329546/image.png?ex=686fe934&is=686e97b4&hm=d2776ea7627a92aa5286d1d09a79c1fb4f8c087bc6adbf6a16f44d0208706fa0& [16:24:21] [3/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1392541899125948446/image.png?ex=686fe934&is=686e97b4&hm=2c64adebef7e0a129be581980013b706afd22c886fc025c50df645f4040b6ff2& [16:25:44] link to where it happens? [16:26:16] might be a bug in the skin as opposed to a css issue [16:27:44] https://growl.wiki/wiki/Ohmicide [16:29:35] the cite tag seems to already add an emdash for you 🤔 [16:37:40] [1/2] I found it [16:37:40] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1392545249708216360/image.png?ex=686fec53&is=686e9ad3&hm=e0dfb15cbb9528f84054d55f484317552174309445222a779d42353c45e81b10& [17:25:39] Hi all, it seems someone is tricking the CreateWiki AI with AI-generated wiki requests. See requests 62266, 62267, 62269, 62270, and 62271 at Special:RequestWikiQueue, [17:28:12] well that's concerning, feel like this warrants a @Stewards ping ^ [17:28:25] magic keys to the kingdom: wiki will be compliant with the content policy [17:28:32] These requests are highly similar in structure, tone, and wording. Also, they are all made by new users with usernames in a similar format (first name + last name + 4 alphanum chars) [17:28:51] lol [17:32:42] Thanks for bringing it up third [17:32:56] Thank you for the heads up, will be putting a big big hammer to that in just a few minutes [17:33:41] no problem [17:37:24] You may fire when ready [17:37:50] Oh sorry I didn't see, already ran the CU and all of them are confirmed socks [17:40:28] I'm currently mobile, so feel free to address. [17:40:43] wonder what's the motivation behind this [17:40:44] Deleting the wikis now and will proceed with locks after [17:40:49] same, it's quite odd [17:41:08] could be a bot/AI itself as the wiki db's are also very similar and all have a 'wikiwiki' suffix [17:42:25] indeed [17:42:44] Wait, so its possible an AI just posts these requests all by itself? [17:43:28] I thought its probably some bored guy running a script, just to mess with the CreateWiki AI [17:43:49] @pskyechology yep, one of them is clearly a spambot https://devopswiki.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Lestert1guajardo [17:44:03] was the bug in drafts extension not fixed upstream yet? its annoying that it's not possible to enable it [17:44:12] devopswiki will be deleted in just a sec but TL;DR it's a bunch of spammy pages [17:44:46] interesting that two wikis have the exact same amount of spam pages created - 307 [17:46:36] lmao do they think having a miraheze wiki will boost their seo for whatever slop they're propagating? unbelievable [17:47:41] [1/3] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:RequestWikiQueue/62220 [17:47:42] [2/3] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:RequestWikiQueue/62219 [17:47:42] [3/3] more of these, idk if you already have them in your crosshairs [17:47:54] it's either an actual spambot or just someone playing around with a script that does spam [17:48:11] I'm sort of leaning towards the latter as pure spambots tend to be less sophisticated [17:48:44] thanks, I'd missed 62219 [17:48:53] should all be handled now [17:55:29] @cosmicalpha ^ [18:32:41] Hello! I was wondering, since miraheze changed administrations a while ago, is it still hosted in the UK? [18:33:02] Nope, in the US now [18:33:21] both servers and as a registered org, correct? [18:35:25] most servers are in the US; yes [18:35:40] i think there's one DNS server hosted in the UK [18:35:49] Thank you [18:47:36] [1/3] I'm not sure if this is the right channel to discuss this so forgibe me if im out of line here but i am very, very worried about the state of US-based hosting of libre spaces I've basically dedicated my adult life to (Wikimedia, internet archive, biodiversity heritage library etc.) because of their targeting by the current us administration. the BHL is currently out of funding, the [18:47:36] [2/3] IA is being bit by ddosing and lawsuits, and a certain foundation that shall not be named has been targeting Wikipedia editors and openly calling for doxxings. I want to contribute towards mirroring and hosting these eggs across a wider range of baskets, but dont know of any project to do so nor who to talk to for advice. Would anyone have any hints? Know non-US-based people alrea [18:47:37] [3/3] dy engaged in mirroring activities? or even just have more at-risk US projects I should add to my list? [18:48:22] I am not trying to fearmonger nor discredit miraheze by the way. i use the service and will continue to do so. I just want to work on projects that aren't all subject to the same administration [18:50:02] [1/2] I have started to think it would be best to consider alternate jurisdiction but the problem is that most volunteers are US based if not UK based in any case, and the trend of global government attacks on libre content, privacy, an independent internet in general has lead me to figure there might not really be any options in the long term even if the US has turned out to be one of the [18:50:02] [2/2] worst in its trajectory at this time [18:51:05] distributed torrenting works for backup files, of course, but that wouldn't be a solution for a living project that's edited daily [18:51:21] the miraheze stack can definitely be hosted pretty much wherever if you have the right blend to manage it, a few people who are here have been successful and there are small farms to the side. But the key maintenance is ultimately the miraheze techs themselves so you have some US and UK dependency there inherently [18:51:47] Yeah... [18:56:34] I keep a lot of offline backups (Brazil host) but dont really have the means to maintain hosting for anything meant for public access [18:58:53] These are interesting questions. I do believe some claims made by the media are over exaggerations but nevertheless, it is good to always be prepared against any unpredictable circumstance. The more likely issue here would probably be a server failure rather than the government trying to censure us. [18:59:31] We do have two copies of backups in case of an emergency but I believe both are hosted in the U.S. [18:59:49] It might be worth seeing if we can switch to a nearby country like Canada [19:01:12] what's stopping us from returning to europe? [19:01:15] are these backups of public data that could be turned into an international community torrent or do they include private wikis and other sensitive data? [19:01:23] Backups or servers? [19:01:41] servers [19:01:44] private wikis couldn't be treated that way, public wikis should be on archive.org [19:01:45] $$$$$$ [19:01:51] fair enough [19:02:05] The deals we find in the U.S. will never compare to anything in Europe [19:02:11] from archive.org or I suppose any appropriate medium where bulky stuff can live, copies could be distributed [19:02:19] We ran away from ServerChoice in the UK because they bankrupted us [19:02:26] guh [19:02:45] Indeed. Archive.org has one of our backup copies [19:03:04] Private wikis are hosted on OVH but I think that’s in Oregon and not in Canada anymore [19:03:32] archive.org saved my wiki when there was that data loss. i love them... just wish they weren't up that creek without a paddle [19:03:47] if there is something in the EU that competes with the internet archive as a bulk place to drop backups for the public interest, it might be something to consider and use [19:03:53] I'm not aware of anything close though [19:04:13] yeah they don't really make servers cheap here [19:04:21] Is there an easy link to the archive.org backup? [19:04:39] I can keep a backup of the backup with me [19:04:44] https://archive.org/details/@miraheze [19:04:52] They’re not all in a single tarball though [19:04:52] 💚 [19:05:35] Hello!! a:popcato: [19:05:36] Ftr, thank you all for the kind responses and constructive thoughts. I wasnt sure if my worries were reasonable to voice but I'm happy I wasnt brushed aside [19:05:46] not unreasonable at all imo [19:05:56] we live in interesting times [19:06:19] "season finale of LOST" levels of interesting. [19:08:45] Fandom wants to replace INT wikis with AI :tired: heard Miraheze is a good alternative so here I am [19:10:36] the only AI we use is in reviewing wiki requests (because there's so many!) [19:10:50] Totally fair! [19:11:32] Literally the entire Fandom community doesn't want them to replace INT wikis with AI but they've been radio silent ever since they announced the experiment [19:12:29] Not even staff wants it 😭 [19:12:31] one of their staff was against AI on linkedin, but that post mysteriously vanished after announcing that [19:12:34] https://discord.com/channels/407504499280707585/615786602454581249/1391852633743953982 [19:12:40] we have it immortalized [19:12:41] Oops! [19:12:53] That's not good 💀 [19:19:43] Hi there [19:19:58] a:AJ_Wave: [19:20:48] a:wavey: [19:21:32] Is #tech the right place to ask for help on why my infoboxes aren't working? a:slugshifty: [19:21:46] this would be the premier spot for quick questions [19:21:57] right here, I Mean [19:22:35] Yeah, tech is where you go if you want to toss your sanity down a garbage chute [19:22:39] Or is that tech-ops? [19:23:07] tech-ops is just "wow miraheze blew up again" [19:23:15] Bahahahaha [19:23:22] You weren’t around in late 2023 [19:23:32] mighty glad for that [19:23:41] When it was still called sre [19:23:58] And the servers were literally weeks away from croaking [19:23:58] ngl sre sounds more drip but that's just me [19:24:08] It took some getting used to [19:24:14] Tech is a weird name in ways [19:24:24] But calling everyone SRE was also weird [19:25:14] yeah I'm much more of a unreliability engineering person [19:28:17] Ohh okay!! [19:28:41] https://pixeline.miraheze.org/wiki/Skabelon:Videospil so I've turned on the portable infobox extension but it doesn't seem to be working [19:29:00] Did you edit the page after enabling [19:29:29] Oh should I do that? [19:31:45] Yeah, it needs a kick to rerender [19:37:29] Done 🫡 let me try clearing the cache [19:41:58] Still doesn't seem to be working, uh-oh [19:42:57] Huh [19:47:57] [1/2] There seems to be an issue with the Citizen Skin on dark mode [19:47:57] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1392593135690973185/image.png?ex=687018ec&is=686ec76c&hm=ba4f5404aa65524fd66646140b0c37789a32af818e8a0bf54acf294683085f85& [19:48:03] Flashbang [19:48:13] Do I need to fix it with CSS? [19:49:13] seems like it comes from an extension, in which case you do need to fix it yourself with CSS [19:50:11] External extensions need to be fixed either by yourself using CSS or nicely ask the skin author to include fix in their skin [19:50:59] seems to be some sort of weird caching issue (probably because you imported before enabling the extension?), you can alleviate this by changing something in the template (but you can't undo it back because it will use the broken version again lol) [19:51:18] It’s funny in hindsight but gosh it was stressful. [19:51:46] @pdtblue Did we enable any extensions? [19:51:59] Oh that's so weird a:waaa: I'll see if that works [19:52:57] OH NICE IT WORKED [19:53:09] I didnt but the other guy might have. [19:53:41] Is there a way to do displaytitles? [19:54:44]