[00:02:55] Just renamed a taks from CORP error to CORS error becuase I thought they spelt it wrong only to realise they didn't [00:03:01] slightly embarrassed [00:19:19] corp error? was it a pebcak problem? xD [00:32:07] I feel like my brain is too smooth for Miraheze as I'm already encountering an issue [00:35:44] Why is it saying I can't edit my own wiki? [00:37:01] Are you logged in? And are you logged in to the correct account that requested the wiki? [00:37:34] Yes and yes [00:39:11] Which wiki. [00:39:36] do you want like a direct link to it? [00:39:59] Yes. [00:40:11] https://mymultiversallore.miraheze.org/wiki/Main_Page [00:41:27] Are you using the account BoyBoyMcgee? [00:41:32] yes [00:43:06] I can't view the wiki pages because I'm not a member and I'm not a steward, @kiju1108 can you check it out please. [00:43:32] I do apologize if this is a simple issue. [01:13:57] Is it recommended to not use the Variables extension? I saw the warning on the MW page for it regarding its potential impending depreciation (due to parallelization of parsing and all that stuff) [01:14:12] ([[mw:Extension:Variables]]) [01:14:12] [01:23:29] It's just a deprecation warning, you can still use it, otherwise we wouldn't have it as an option to use. [01:23:48] Something will either replace it or it will be updated to support what it needs to. [01:27:13] Gotcha, thank you [01:28:55] It seems like an incredibly useful extension, but the depreciation warning had me worried that it'll stop working and I'll be left with a horrible mess with a bunch of non-functional parser functions lying around [01:28:56] > corp error? was it a pebcak problem? xD [01:29:05] Thats what I thought, but apparenrly CORP is a thing lol [02:05:37] is it allowed to host a test wiki for your own? [02:06:04] like self host test wiki [02:08:26] sc172: i don't see why not? [02:08:37] especially if it's self-hosted, not like we can do anything about that ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ [02:09:09] alr neat [02:17:08] Is Miraheze ok with fan fiction wikis? [02:19:30] i don't see why not [02:20:36] it seems like i have to request upon creation, might think about it later [02:30:02] :sip: [02:34:00] Self-host means you host it yourself, not Miraheze. We don't do test wikis, use the sandbox wiki to test your changes #public-test-wiki [02:35:49] pepa pig fanon: [03:07:48] @jakejson It looks like the rights weren’t automatically assigned when the wiki was created. I’m on it now, sorry for the inconvenience [03:08:03] No worries at all! Thank you for your help! [03:45:48] [1/2] New Header for my Wiki [03:45:49] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1383653697715830784/IMG_8880.png?ex=684f936c&is=684e41ec&hm=10ed5fcabfd521efc2a1bece22df427562d83d5eeb9e0110c191379951ac3cbc& [04:19:03] guys hot take [04:19:04] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Help:Comparing_Miraheze_to_other_services/en [04:19:08] what if we [04:19:14] replaced ShoutWiki [04:19:17] with wiki.gg [04:19:45] why not a new column? [04:22:51] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fluttershy [04:22:56] why is discord in see also?? [04:27:00] oh, it's not _that_ discord [04:27:20] I don't think it's fair to list Fandom as not allowing JavaScript just because they have JSRT, it should be a yellow tick. [04:28:08] Totally missed that one, you're totally right! [04:28:21] overlooked that one i guess lol [04:28:26] fixing [04:28:50] Same with system message editing allowed. [04:29:01] Although it's a minute amount, I think that should be a yellow tick top. [04:29:53] same for VE on other farms [04:31:23] done! [04:31:56] honestly what other farms are there besides GG anyone would actually consider [04:32:00] I'll add more wikifarms I know of to this table later, it would be fair to have Wiki.gg, WikiOasis, Telepedia, maybe even SkyWiki and WikiGrid? [04:32:13] those yeah [04:32:14] archiveteam has a list of wikifarms lol [04:32:21] 12 am moment [04:32:22] though tbf, idk how they are :p [04:33:00] Totally, though I think SkyWiki we should leave out, WIkiGrid I dont recall hearing of [04:33:35] In the spirit of fairness I would need to check who WO hosts, if its about SkyWiki equal, then maybe reconsider that [04:33:46] wiki.gg should be where Shout is though [04:34:08] does shout wiki even like [04:34:12] accept new wikis [04:34:35] https://www.shoutwiki.com/wiki/School_wiki [04:34:59] is there a way to change the color of a specific row on a table? [04:35:05] thank you ShoutWIki very cool(that embed is the entire page, its listed on the main page as one of the 3 types of wikis the host) [04:35:08] Yes! [04:35:18] Also I can think of a few extra categories to add, like "does it have a meta/support/help wiki", "is it open sourced", "what is its ownership style? privately owned/publicly owned/charity etc". [04:35:33] https://k6ka.miraheze.org/wiki/Help:Table i'm looking at here and it seems to only be applicable to the whole table [04:35:37] i'd like to know how to do this [04:35:48] Maybe even "how active is their support", where Fandom is Mon to Fri EST/CST and Miraheze is whenever someone is around. [04:35:59] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Tables#With%20HTML%20attributes%20and%20CSS%20styles [04:36:14] We have the last one [04:36:16] yeah but this is the WHOLE TABLE [04:36:20] Last row [04:36:25] oh, uh [04:36:44] ys [04:36:53] look at the example titled `Attributes on tables` [04:37:01] just moving the CSS to another place [04:37:12] Last row is VisualEditor support. [04:37:15] AHHH [04:37:16] i see [04:37:18] thank you :) [04:37:24] Well, for us its a bit more complicated than that [04:37:26] And I mean like ownership for the wikifarms not the wiki. [04:37:44] ahem uh [04:37:47] Fandom is owned by TPG Capital, Wiki.gg is run by Indie.io. [04:37:48] 6th to last [04:37:58] its jsut [04:38:04] Non profit or for profit [04:38:04] That's motives. [04:38:27] I agree, but I'm iffy on including that level of stuff on the table [04:38:43] Also, I think we should have rows for Wiki base support, SMW support, etc. [04:39:05] I don't think ShoutWiki supports them because of their outdated versioning. [04:39:55] Also, a good row would be access to wiki analytics. [04:40:24] Fandom provides them via Special:Insights and Wiki.gg shares them to the wiki founder via Google insight with email access. [04:43:35] We could include the location of where their servers are located/services are provided from. [04:44:02] Or if they use CloudFlare or another DNS. [04:44:23] I feel at that level it's solidly TMI [04:58:25] Analytics is good! [04:58:50] Wikibase and SMW I don't know, maybe lump them and cargo into one? [04:59:09] We want to balance digestable with informative [05:03:52] Yeah, that'd be good. [05:04:23] Fandom doesn't support any of them anymore, they only continue supporting the legacy SMW wikis they had from killing off Gamepedia. [05:06:57] I feel like service reliability should be included, especially since we don't want to sound too one-sided. Fandom's only advantage on the table is SEO, though they are arguably more reliable both in terms of less 50x errors and in terms of the lack of past data loss incidents (I'm not terribly familiar with fandom, but I didn't find any reports of them losing data). [05:08:04] This is the cost of joining a community-driven project, and I think it doesn't hurt to be upfront about it. [05:12:21] 💯 [05:12:51] I was making a pro con list for a wiki considerin MH vs Fandom fork vs self host, always important to consdier [05:18:31] ill check this out tmr [05:18:33] sleepy time... [05:18:54] :3 [05:48:45] Self-host would definitely have pros over a wikifarms, but also deficits. [06:53:48] I have a self-hosted wiki that started out with MW 1.38 and is still at 1.38... Re-downloading the extensions alone is daunting enough for me to not do it. [07:04:47] my apologies [07:04:54] <-- runs from git [07:14:37] Yeah using git or composer would make these a lot easier to update. [09:04:54] Update your wiki to at least 1.39.12, 1.38 is unsupported and has active security issues if left unlatched. [11:17:27] [1/2] hmm [11:17:28] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1383767357977264138/Screenshot_20250615_121639_YouTube.jpg?ex=684ffd47&is=684eabc7&hm=652b675740d3de3ed9c3fd8e5ba2269c7fe661a94b1bdf2844b54253d5a4f3f6& [11:17:32] this pattern looks familiar [11:17:38] can't quite put my finger on it [12:19:16] oh muh gud [12:19:30] it's a honeycomb [12:19:56] I've seen those dirt remover tools before [12:20:00] so satisfying [12:20:29] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1383783219073253497/proxy-image.jpg?ex=68500c0c&is=684eba8c&hm=36b505c700a471dbecbc12aa0663f551c4c15129433527bc5ba5f72173ef7b9e& [12:20:40] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1383783265357533254/proxy-image.jpg?ex=68500c17&is=684eba97&hm=d321c6a532db27e817d4eebf7013de79767c093182e0abd9793e5102fbd0dec8& [12:21:03] not exactly sure their use though, for selling sod plugs? [12:21:29] miraheze hq needs them asap [12:21:43] like, on their little yard or whatever [12:22:28] does Miraheze have an actual HQ, I assumed the closest HQ it had were the servers in Salt Lake City 😅 [12:22:47] i was joking yeah lol [12:23:13] Well, we could bioengineer some big bees. And have them make a big beehive for HQ. [12:23:17] although i think there was an address when Mira was based in UK [12:25:05] well [12:25:37] the closest would be be the address in Idaho that’s listed as our legal address [12:26:34] [1/2] Here's my HQ proposition [12:26:34] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1383784750057000971/MirahezeHQ.jpg?ex=68500d79&is=684ebbf9&hm=e1a123d19753b79b060a8be9760d14c17fe5baa804b4db93d9a822ec108f4f46& [12:26:51] hm, seems I exported it at the lowest possible resolution... [12:26:55] eh, it's fine [12:27:22] saves on kilobytes [12:35:13] is that where Mr Miraheze lives? [12:35:26] No [12:35:34] extra pixels have been fed to the volunteers due to budgetary reasons [12:36:12] Damn these volunteers and their.... wages [12:43:36] LMAO [13:26:28] :DoneMH: [14:06:08] [1/2] here's mine [14:06:09] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1383809808464871424/Untitled414_20250615150545.png?ex=685024d0&is=684ed350&hm=12ab2940cce6932b74947694096fcef09c77da03927bd66f078fd933ca5c87cd& [14:06:31] done [14:08:39] [1/2] no fucking way its real [14:08:39] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1383810440005419018/Untitled414_20250615150818.png?ex=68502566&is=684ed3e6&hm=2721893187d39164daa4af4689c267385fea99fb4f376acc1ca199e589d74043& [14:08:50] ah there it is [14:10:49] One can almost see the working bees [14:22:51] [1/2] Does anyone know why word-break: break-word doesn't work here? :ThinkerMH: [14:22:51] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1383814015439867914/image.png?ex=685028bb&is=684ed73b&hm=cbb74792042cf7340299179d6f0a62da302f8cd203ee22b58bed7f0d6b1778b7& [14:36:45] I mean, I "fixed" it with a
. But I suppose it was the theme's fault or something [14:37:44] This is just a test message, I hope there's no punishment :) [14:38:24] Miraheze. [14:38:52] Mi- [14:38:53] ... [14:40:06] :miraheze: [14:40:20] HE SPOILED IT CHAT [14:40:22] 😡 [14:41:50] 🤭 [14:42:04] @revolvingunknown Testing pings, I'll disconnect from IRC after this message if the ping goes through. [14:42:10] alr it works [15:10:27] :miraheze: [15:16:07] is it just me or the network while visiting miraheze is kinda slow here [15:29:48] [1/2] Anyone knows if something like that is possible to be properly integrated on mirahaze and if yes, if anyone knows any wiki that does that for reference [15:29:48] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1383830862159675392/image.png?ex=6850386b&is=684ee6eb&hm=dd7044bfee04b82a314eaccf1ffd06b525cc571c6c22ebe207c6b3f462c70f67& [15:49:37] its kinda slow yeah [15:55:56] what is this exactly? where you took this screenshot? [15:59:56] Line chart graph for a spawn rate of an ore, I was working on it with the help of ai written in js with chart.js library back when the wiki was on fandom but eventually gave up as I couldn't find a way to add it on the wiki itself [16:02:21] The same way its done on Fandom, use chart.js [16:03:58] I wasn't able to add it on fandom as I couldn't figure out the proper way to add it nor find any references of wikis that use chart.js [16:05:53] You can either import the minified version from the cdn (such as https://cdnjs.com/libraries/Chart.js) into a MediaWiki:.js here and then reference it, ir copy the minified version from the cdn to a js page and reference it in the same fashion [16:06:13] I suspect the former may be blocked by the CSP though so yiu may need to just copy it [16:07:59] cdnjs.cloudflare.com should be allowed by the CSP [16:08:07] [19:24:49] As I can understand, both and