[00:06:00] how [00:06:07] were is css thing [00:06:16] im not good at coding and stuff [00:39:19] [1/2] Tbh with how utterly greedy Nintendo is these days, I'm surprised they didn't reach NIWA or any other available Nintendo game wikis [00:39:20] [2/2] Hope that never happens 🤞 [00:42:14] eh NIWA provides so much information to it’s users about their products for free [00:45:16] Yeah NIWA wikis are pretty high quality, but with Nintendo being so immensely greedy these days with lawsuits, I really hope nothing ever happens to the NIWA wiki teams [00:46:28] Nookipedia has unironicly made me want to play animal crossing [00:46:40] Cool [00:47:48] [1/3] I'm off to 🛏️ [00:47:48] [2/3] 💤 [00:47:49] [3/3] 🛌🏻 [00:48:39] [1/2] Unironically enough, I discover games between a combination of wikis and Steam [00:48:40] [2/2] And I usually, I briefly check out a game's wiki before playing [00:49:33] Idk, I have this instinct of finding out if a wiki for a particular game exists before playing lol [00:50:36] The true definition of a wiki man [00:50:51] Most people engage with a wiki because of a game [00:51:04] A wiki man engages with a game because of the wiki [00:51:22] Yeah lol [00:51:36] And then gets even more engaged to the wiki because the game is good lol [00:51:55] I am actually looking to get star citizen because of the wiki, because of the wiki skin, but at the same time I am not giving the devs any money. [00:52:57] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1236118334215553114/Aegis-Eclipse-L4-Piece-5-Atmospheric-Flight-011b.jpg?ex=6636d868&is=663586e8&hm=b1699730106ce6a12af3de5de44c28cee0af8c9caa0443ced4d4f806d6ea1303& [00:54:41] what ya got against the devs [00:56:44] [1/4] >Takes money [00:56:44] [2/4] >Promises shit [00:56:45] [3/4] >Refuses to elaborate [00:56:45] [4/4] >Keeps money [00:58:20] Fair [01:07:11] [1/2] Plus, if you want a new ship, you better hope your credit line is in four digits. [01:07:12] [2/2] Oh, and they aren't doing much: https://robertsspaceindustries.com/roadmap/progress-tracker/teams [01:10:15] [1/2] And, why not p2w? https://robertsspaceindustries.com/store/pledge/browse/game-packages?sort=weight&direction=desc [01:10:15] [2/2] (Yeah no thank you) [02:58:02] [1/2] is there a way for tables to resize themselves when in limited width mode? [02:58:02] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1236149810680041512/image.png?ex=6636f5b9&is=6635a439&hm=435fe889be3c9006f89f5bccf893111262f773263ec2a7a929d408cbd2997e8d& [03:03:19] <.guardianx.> I would think percentage width? [03:55:01] @koreirose i tried it but i want to add like a disclaimer or a note to the footer [03:55:13] like on the helldivers .gg wiki [03:55:15] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1236164212628262944/image.png?ex=66370323&is=6635b1a3&hm=fa60b13052bfe8f8e0917dd292c4fd6a35deeb8f4592526cb10fcaa9ec4ce01f& [03:55:28] how would i add something like that [03:55:58] Add it to MediaWiki:copyright but still keep the copyright info there [03:56:48] So like add a new line above or below the copyright info with the disclaimer, and it'll show up in the same place on the footer as the copyright stuff [04:14:08] figured it out [05:33:09] reminder: there are two ongoing [[RfP]] [05:33:09] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/RfP [05:33:10] [06:29:48] [1/2] Can I request for this to be re-opened [06:29:48] [2/2] https://issue-tracker.miraheze.org/T11755 [06:29:57] or will miraheze staff see my new comment anyway [06:34:07] it might be helpful for others to archive any closed rfp as the open rfp require scrolling so folks may miss [06:36:12] if you are unable to reopen it I can reopen it for you [07:18:06] [1/3] What [07:18:06] [2/3] Why polandball [07:18:06] [3/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1236215260516716574/Screenshot_20240504_081420_Chrome.png?ex=663732ad&is=6635e12d&hm=6d98caa765aa33913fd120a847c629708e917479bb042832289094202e901ef5& [07:30:17] I am very much confusion [07:31:03] the virus is spreading lmao [07:31:40] What virus? 😨 [07:31:45] Polandball [07:36:44] - [07:40:17] I guess that's still broken [07:40:22] Good morning [07:42:54] @ghaztliousmoths can you link me that page [07:44:10] https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=https://usagishima.miraheze.org/wiki/Main_Page&ved=2ahUKEwiMq4Lnv_OFAxX-Q0EAHdVYCZkQFnoECB4QAQ&usg=AOvVaw00qIw8fxqS957gLav1N27G [07:44:26] https://usagishima.miraheze.org/wiki/Usagi_Shima_Wiki [08:04:47] That's now fixed [08:04:51] Or at least should be [08:07:44] @ghaztliousmoths that's not redirecting for me so not sure what google is seeing [08:08:18] thorbjorn: yours should be fixed with thanks to Daniel from Cloudflare support. [08:08:27] It was cached from our origin though [08:09:18] Yea, the link works fine on Google, it's only the words that's changed from Miraheze [08:11:37] RhinosF1: Seems to work, thanks! [08:18:33] Why Miraheze's homepage got redirected to the Polandball Wiki? [08:22:59] We wanted to confuse our users 😛 [08:23:29] What?? I just joined the Polandball Wiki server and asked question about this🤣 [08:23:52] But checking with their website it looks like to be with a different subject [08:24:00] Like for country roleplay? [08:24:05] Wait the Miraheze home page is redirecting? [08:24:27] I really hope I am reading this wrong lol [08:24:43] Yes correct it was redirecting just now when I tried to visit [08:24:52] wtf [08:25:12] sorry but that is not great lol [08:25:32] @rhinosf1 do you happen to know why? [08:25:45] The Meta website works well but the main home page is redirecting. [08:26:14] oh wow yeah [08:26:15] seems to work for me unless it's only for logged in users? [08:26:20] Not for me but that isn't good if it is for anyone or else we will have a real SEO problem vetting that fixed [08:26:26] it just sent me to `https://wiki.themanaworld.org/wiki/Main_Page` [08:26:37] this happened on brave but not on firefox [08:26:38] This is UBN priority IMO [08:26:49] I think so [08:27:04] visited again and indeed was sent to polandballwiki [08:27:11] No, I got redirected while I was logged out [08:27:58] uhhh this is going to be horrible if Google starts thinking we moved to PBW [08:28:13] manaworld was the first one it sent me to [08:28:21] or that one too [08:28:38] If this continues to happen Google will probably just consider the service got moved to a new location [08:28:44] I got themanaworld [08:28:52] something is viciously wrong with how custom domains are working clearly [08:29:19] Very few custom domains use CF themanaworld is not one of them [08:29:28] oh it is [08:29:29] lol [08:29:35] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1236233251731931146/image.png?ex=6637436f&is=6635f1ef&hm=b133904af20ca2fc3b6b08955ce33326275b51d83cd16cdd8039159465044140& [08:29:37] very oddly specific tbh [08:29:54] can we get an F for our SEO? [08:30:03] So my browser just use Polandball Wiki's favicon for the home page URL [08:30:18] I am going to purge everything in cloudflare and change custom domains up a bit I think. [08:30:37] on the bright side, manaworld traffic will be up 100% [08:30:55] We are becoming polandball 😭 [08:31:04] I forgot I added themanaworld just yesterday lol [08:31:17] activity did seem newish [08:31:28] weird how it's not redirecting for me [08:31:35] and plb's domain wasn't changed that far back either was it, fixing after the outage [08:31:46] does not appear to redirect while logged in [08:31:52] must be cloudflare caching [08:31:56] even logged out it doesn't redirect [08:32:09] you might be getting a local cache if using it same browser [08:32:20] When did Miraheze start to use Cloudflare? [08:32:23] another session with a new deck of cookies might say differently [08:32:33] i went on multiple browsers and they all worked normally [08:32:38] Does it work now @raidarr [08:32:39] odd [08:32:54] now it does [08:33:24] Yes now it worked well for me too. [08:33:46] Great [08:33:54] interesting start of the day ei [08:34:05] I purged cache for miraheze.org and stopped custom domains from caching on miraheze.org lol [08:34:14] Ohh [08:34:15] They now cache on cf-lb.miraheze.org [08:34:20] ok [08:34:46] Oh wait no I set them to host alias to cf-lb but set cf-lb to not cache. [08:34:58] So it should only cache on their actual hostnamed [08:35:16] Please DM me if this issue happens again. [08:35:23] It is a pretty urgent issue [08:35:43] I don't want Google thinking we moved to PBW lol [08:36:33] So I chose to make custom domain directly hosted with Miraheze's DNS, this was initially to reduce errors on DNS resolve [08:37:03] Only a few custom domains use CF right now [08:37:05] CF said the redirects were coming from our origin [08:37:15] I know and I fixed it [08:37:27] I think [08:38:06] I had default hostname fot SaaS set as miraheze.org rather than cf-lb [08:38:26] And I hope this alias issue won't affect wiki's using hosted DNS [08:38:43] if you're using mw-lb then you don't touch cloudflare [08:39:22] Only approved and directly requested domains will be on CF right now. We are limited on it for now. [08:39:46] All hosted domains still go via cp [08:43:38] So checking for A of Polandball Wiki's domain it appears to have Cloudflare IP addresses is this an experimental feature? [08:44:02] PBW is one that uses cloudflare [08:44:57] I checked with Meta articles before saying using Cloudflare with Miraheze will cause problems [08:45:31] So since only approved users will be able to use it this is an experimental feature right? [08:45:37] I guess you can call it experimental then. It will if it isn't configured properly. But that is kinda outdated. [08:46:09] Ohhh [08:46:11] I know [08:46:41] *.miraheze.org uses cloudflare and 3 custom domains do. [08:46:41] But do you know why they decided to use Cloudflare since Miraheze itself gives protection already [08:46:48] Ohh [08:47:06] We switched to cloudflare due to repeated DDoSes [08:47:18] That was overwhelming our cache proxies [08:47:21] Is this happened recently [08:47:29] Yeah a couple weeks ago. [08:47:31] It's handled 46 million requests for Miraheze wikis in the last 24 hours so not very experimental [08:47:42] 21st April traffic started to hit cloudflare [08:47:43] It is for custom domains [08:47:56] Yes during that maintenance time I just wonder if Miraheze started to use Cloudfalre as I've got different IP addresses from this company [08:47:56] Custom domains is still being tested ye [08:48:18] I know, so nice [08:48:22] No the maintenance was completely unrelated [08:48:33] There was zero downtime to switch to CF [08:48:54] I mean I noticed the IP address changes [08:49:00] The maintenance was to regain access to some accounts that when Agent left we completely lost access to. [08:49:06] With the online DNS checker tool😂 [08:49:13] Oh I know [08:49:32] So apearantely these are separate events [08:49:40] Yes [08:49:43] Noted [08:50:06] We switched to CF a little before the maintenance day [08:50:09] So you touched the database and regained access finally? [08:50:14] Oh noted [08:51:13] Well it wasn't the database, but rather the iDRAC control of the actual cloud servers which was urgent as without it if something happened and we went completely down we wouldn't be able to do a lot of things to investigate etc... [08:51:21] But yes we regained control [08:52:08] Oh the point is you lost control of the servers, but the wiki accounts weren't affected [08:52:17] Correct [08:52:20] I know [08:52:48] So it's 4:52PM in China is this the same to your location? [08:52:54] It has been a hectic week [08:52:59] Yes [08:53:16] Yes this is the same time for me right now lol [08:53:50] I was so late to notify the leave until a week after he left there I got some unusual signals [08:53:54] Nice [08:54:38] This proves that the service is robust and can handle difficult challenges😂 [08:55:04] It can indeed and will definitely pull through whatever happens in the future. [08:55:12] Nice. [08:55:59] It will definitely become my first choice of hosting wikis, and another question am I allowed to request more than one wiki's? [08:56:04] In the future if needed [08:56:11] yes [08:56:15] Thanks [08:56:23] You can have multiple wikis assuming you can manage them all [08:56:24] though wcs will give you funny looks if the first one is un/underdeveloped and you do that [08:56:47] Yes I will justify the criteria of managing all the wikis I may have [08:56:51] Or I won't request them [08:57:06] What is "wcs" [08:57:17] wiki creators [08:57:21] Ohh okay [08:58:11] In the future if I have time I may take over those wikis that left idle [09:11:31] [1/2] We appreciate active users with several wiki's. [09:11:31] [2/2] But we do expect that they first develop and mature their wiki, before requesting a new one. If you get an idea for a new wiki, I always suggest to start separately in your Username space. And if you have enough to show for, you can request a wiki. [09:14:48] so is pbw issue fixed? [09:15:07] pbw? [09:16:44] [1/2] wellp [09:16:45] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1236245118298624021/IMG_20240504_121622.jpg?ex=66374e7c&is=6635fcfc&hm=210fa1e47942ce0a6d64e474aa769579079bbd0749131330eea6e09a8f73e075& [09:17:06] Ah. [09:17:20] Yikes [09:18:00] We just blame @rhinosf1 😄 He's too occupied with Formula1 this weekend 😄 [09:18:08] ok on other wikis I admin (don't jinx it) [09:18:24] You just did 😄 [09:18:58] nah, it's not like that [09:19:09] тьфу-тьфу-тьфу чтоб не сглазить [09:38:41] `pah-pah-pah so as not to jinx it` LOL [09:40:33] very cool of discussion tools turning my reply into empty post [09:42:43] It's America so it's evening [09:42:51] We actually got sunshine on a bank holiday here [09:43:56] I thought you were listening to all the podcasts and Youtube video's about the Miami weekend :ThinkerMH: [10:17:17] Enjoying a weird thing called summer. A nice warm summers day on the south coast with a sea breeze doesn't grow old. [10:45:50] Looks like you did, so thank you :pupCoffeeMH: [10:46:06] I believe this issue effects more than just my wiki, so hopefully it can be fixed [10:46:07] 👍 [10:46:28] from what i see it's a login issue [10:46:40] and yes it's a known issue across many wikis [10:58:51] Okay [10:59:32] And also, does 2FA really work for server-side attacks i.e. the access tokens are stored separately on a special access control server against attacks [11:03:14] We're still seeing strange redirects on TMW wiki, like this one: https://wiki.themanaworld.org/index.php/How_to_Develop [11:03:33] It shouldn't end up on dev.miraheze. [11:12:40] ... [11:13:39] can you guys try to rollback changes to several days and try again? [11:56:22] If so my hard-written pages would be gone [12:10:37] I meant domain settings etc [12:10:48] not changes on wikis [12:16:12] looking [12:19:00] we'd break a fair few wikis then [12:21:36] thorbjorn: can you send me in PM the output of https://wiki.themanaworld.org/cdn-cgi/trace [12:34:45] @Site Reliability Engineers @MediaWiki Engineers can I get a second pair of hands [12:51:30] https://issue-tracker.miraheze.org/T12106 [12:52:58] Anyone else getting logged out frequently? [13:06:02] Do you click the "Keep me logged in" button? [13:06:12] Yes. [13:06:28] I think. [13:06:48] it happens from time to time [13:07:27] Well it seems to be more frequent than usual. [13:12:02] Yeah, definitely appears to be more frequent these days. 😭 [13:23:47] Temp solution: put CF in Development mode, this will bypass teh cache. [13:27:34] It's showing as a cache miss [13:28:38] That's why I need someone to check from inside our network if directly curling the appserver shows the behaviour [13:28:46] Then I can go back to CF Tech Support [13:32:04] I had something of that nature happen to me, devmode and using WG from inside the ntwrk would produce the same result, but there's a non-zero chance things work a bit differently on Mira's infra. [13:33:04] I have it every day when I create wiki's and check if they are made. Try doing that 20 times a day [13:33:08] @rodejong Do you know something about a bug involving light and dark mode? [13:33:11] 😢 [13:33:28] I don't. Sorry [13:33:35] I'm not sure how it could be happening at the appserver level [13:33:42] It's fixed now, but it was still weird [13:33:43] But there's nothing obvious in CF config [13:33:55] But I don't use it either. Good it works [13:33:57] So we got to rule it out with CF completely out of the way [13:34:41] Dev mode would probably take us offline to be honest. We cache a lot. [13:34:47] It could be since a lot of people configure their servers to handle requests differently when they come from CF than if they came from elsewhere, so there is that option. [14:09:36] [1/2] on every other skin there would be a scrollbar if the table is too wide but how come there isn't one when on vector-2022? [14:09:36] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1236318817337081968/image.png?ex=6637931f&is=6636419f&hm=70ee3661e420a68cdb5a21e9da1bd5767b2e2dfb2597b3b49fca07eb2842b76c& [16:40:18] even if it isn't cached, if there are rewrite rules Cloudflare will rewrite the domain anyway [16:40:22] even on a cache miss [16:40:59] It doesn't match any redirect rules [16:42:12] @originalauthority I really don't think it's coming from the origin but if someone can test it with mw171 then that would be fantastic [16:42:18] Then we can prove it [16:42:24] And I can add it to the ticket [16:47:45] [1/2] curling it from mw171 still gives the same result: [16:47:46] [2/2] `location: https://dev.miraheze.org/wiki/How_to_Develop?rdfrom=https%3A%2F%2Fwiki.themanaworld.org%2Fwiki%2FHow_to_Develop%3Fredirect%3Dno` [16:47:54] unless theres some header you need to send with the request aswell? [16:48:55] @originalauthority you need to curl with https://[mw171's ip]/path -H 'Host: X' [16:49:06] To force the backend to mw171 directly [16:49:06] oh idk thats too confusing [16:49:14] Hang on [16:49:26] the whole infrastructure set up is fucked [16:50:16] > curl 'http://[2602:294:0:b23::104]/wiki/How_to_Develop' --header 'Host: wiki.themanaworld.org' [16:50:29] @originalauthority run that from another mw or a bast [16:50:41] I'm pretty sure bast can talk to mw doing anything [16:50:56] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1236359418015252480/image.png?ex=6637b8ef&is=6636676f&hm=96dd047f42fdb6d96c023353461e1969a9f0b852e3c0a9dac7078fb50aaff546& [16:51:03] okay [16:51:10] but what's in the location header [16:51:36] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1236359586303315998/image.png?ex=6637b917&is=66366797&hm=4415b8890f042897a453284ddda9da5bc8df5401cafa45e133c0fc64d64cf350& [16:52:15] >curl 'https://[2602:294:0:b23::104]/wiki/How_to_Develop' -k --header 'Host: wiki.themanaworld.org' [16:52:23] @originalauthority ^ [16:52:47] doesn't return anything [16:53:13] it must give something [16:53:28] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1236360055394271311/image.png?ex=6637b987&is=66366807&hm=cfbab5cec1130c0119b92ea7e09506bf3f75a14f1bfd2962bf1e17c63fe358c3& [16:54:17] `curl -I 'https://[2602:294:0:b23::104]/wiki/How_to_Develop' -k --header 'Host: wiki.themanaworld.org'` gives the headers but [16:54:25] they're the same as if it were going through CF [16:55:04] one sec I'll update the ticket because they're too long to post here [16:56:18] @rhinosf1 check ticket [16:57:07] It's a backend issue then [16:57:11] I have no idea why [16:57:19] but that didn't touch Cloudflare at all [17:01:19] @originalauthority can you try and see if all appservers do it? [17:01:47] where do I find the IPs for them [17:03:36] @originalauthority https://github.com/miraheze/dns/blob/master/zones/wikitide.net [17:04:37] 2602:294:0:c8::105/106, 2602:294:0:b13::106/107, 2602:294:0:b23::104/105, 2602:294:0:b12::105/106 [17:05:37] Yes, they do [17:06:28] @originalauthority I am at a loss [17:06:42] if all backends are doing that redirect [17:06:45] it makes no sense [17:06:50] where would it come from [17:08:14] possibly the ssl config? Maybe request ssl i borked [17:10:09] @originalauthority I'm not sure how it could happen but it's an idea [17:11:02] I can try removing the custom domain from that wiki and see if that fixes it? That would prove that its something to do with RequestSSL if the SSL was done through there [17:11:10] oh wait [17:11:14] I'm looking at a different wiki [17:11:19] dev wiki didn't use requestSSL [17:11:40] is miraheze broken, keeps giving me "Prevent users with fewer than 30 edits to edit other users' userpage" despite it being my user page and being logged in? [17:12:05] @originalauthority RequestSSL only adds it to miraheze/ssl in github though doesn't it [17:12:24] no, RequestSSL doesn't have this kind of power [17:12:51] it just changes serverName on wiki, certificate generation is still done like pre-RSSL [17:13:43] or any additional SSL settings for that matter [17:14:22] @bluemoon0332 do you have any ideas? [17:16:57] yes, delete Cloudflare /sarcasm [17:17:08] jk, I'll take a look [17:17:10] @bluemoon0332 We've proved it isn't CF [17:17:20] because directly curling the appserver's IP does it [17:20:40] [1/5] `sudo -u www-data cat /srv/mediawiki/cache/themanaworldwiki.json | grep themanaworldwiki` [17:20:40] [2/5] ``` [17:20:41] [3/5] "url":"https:\/\/wiki.themanaworld.org" [17:20:41] [4/5] ``` [17:20:41] [5/5] bruh [17:20:49] oops [17:21:23] sorry that's normal, just got confused with devwiki.json both are normal [17:22:12] well, if the db caches are fine I'm kind of out of ideas [17:22:37] what's the command for an image again? [17:22:57] https://wiki.themanaworld.org/wiki/How_to_Develop?action=edit this is why [17:23:06] nvm found it [17:23:17] funny fact about that wiki, it originally had a custom namespace, Dev: [17:23:28] @bluemoon0332 now that's some fun [17:23:38] what about the other from this morning [17:23:45] however we had to get rid of it during import due to that being used for interwiki links with devwiki... [17:24:32] @bluemoon0332 they were getting sent to polandball this AM [17:25:11] @bluemoon0332 can you add a summary on the ticket [17:25:22] thorbjorn: see https://issue-tracker.miraheze.org/T12106 [17:29:29] @rhinosf1 added [17:29:51] should've suspected something like this given that I remember handling the import for that wiki and the dev: namespace stuff [17:33:44] I noticed a bug with the cf support portal so I'll close the portal ticket when they fix that [17:35:44] @Stewards please check the Osvaldatore Wiki report. It is a doxxing wiki. https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Steward_requests/Wiki_reports?curid=72049&diff=393644&oldid=393621 [17:38:04] [1/2] I succedeed in making a template, It's not the best but I love how it worked out [17:38:05] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1236371282292113428/image.png?ex=6637c3fc&is=6636727c&hm=556a84cfb8a4c359ebc0c94210a67bdcb7053864aaea541f7610fd7232cd9422& [17:44:28] If you want design advice, don't hesitate [17:44:55] How would I make the "Mukhtalitanism" be centered on the middle? [17:45:41] "text-align: center;" on css [17:45:52] thank you [17:46:06] [1/3] .portable-infobox .pi-title { [17:46:07] [2/3] text-align: center; [17:46:07] [3/3] } [17:46:14] On MediaWiki: Common.css [17:46:20] It should work [17:46:59] Don't hesitate to “inspect the element” to find out what you need to change. [18:02:58] @raidarr 🙏 please this is important, sorry for pinging you [18:09:53] is there no way to alter the interwiki link from `dev` to `devwiki`? could allow the custom `dev` namespace again [18:10:17] their custom namespace was renamed to development: [18:10:24] that problem has already been solved [18:10:52] I recall CA saying that you must set up a namespace alias before changing a custom namespace otherwise all pages will not longer be accessible [18:11:11] Unless you do before import or with the DB after [18:11:18] Hello [18:11:51] anyone have something i could use for infobox military conflict [18:12:13] Honestly though dev interwiki may not even need to exist, it could just use mh:dev:... I think there is more than just this use-case for having a Dev: namespace personally. But we can consider it later if this issue comes up again. [18:15:08] are there like any specialty features you want in the infobox or just the various different rows? [18:15:38] as in multiple pictures, tabs, different colored sections, collapsible sections [18:15:39] As data? Numbers of victims, nations involved, locations, weapons used, period, dates [18:16:11] I mean if one knows how to create 1 row, easy to duplicate [18:17:27] that [18:17:29] yeah [18:18:04] Is that a good answer? [18:18:30] yes but idk the source code [18:18:39] the dev wiki doesn't have anything on it [18:18:41] so all of that or some? [18:18:45] all [18:19:04] wikitext or portable infobox? [18:19:05] Installs the PortableInfobox extension [18:20:24] You've reported it on Meta. Please trust that it will be looked at. We're all volunteers and not available 24/7. Pinging once is okay, but repeating is frowned upon. [18:20:51] And of limited useful [18:21:07] We understand it’s urgent but unfortunately we can’t really do anything else to get steward’s attention [18:21:16] Okay. I was used to Fandom where ping was necessary [18:21:23] Except it’s it’s very time sensitive maybe email [18:21:43] Given the situation pinging stewards are likely the appropriate action [18:23:31] Yeah, that was done earlier already [18:25:31] Okay, and sorry again if I was too demanding - I didn't know staff was made by volunteers only [18:25:49] No worries [18:25:50] Yeah, no one is payed [18:27:34] 👍 [18:32:46] uh did I break the MarkAdmins gadget [18:32:54] @rhinosf1 if you can help [18:34:03] @brandon.wm errrr [18:34:07] What did you do [18:34:42] nothing, just changed a designator [18:35:06] And? [18:35:15] What does broke mean? [18:35:30] it just doesn't work anymore [18:36:14] @brandon.wm any error? [18:36:24] Look in console [18:36:25] nope, I have it enabled, it just seems....deactivated [18:36:45] That's unusual [18:37:04] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Gadget-MarkAdmins.js?diff=prev&oldid=393626 [18:37:06] this is all I did [18:37:49] I did it before and it was fine..... [18:38:59] &debug=1 will print obvious errors to the console [18:39:47] Where do I put this [18:40:01] appended to the end of the page URL? [18:40:05] yup [18:40:12] not in a diff, though [18:40:25] `https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Gadget-MarkAdmins.js&debug=1` this returns nothing [18:40:32] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1236387002115555420/Screenshot_2024-05-04_at_11.40.29_AM.png?ex=6637d2a0&is=66368120&hm=b1d50c875a3a4d4b26339ba6de5b4f5c84aef349a4bb1002fcc7834390101977& [18:40:47] oh wait it's `?` for Mac [18:41:07] ? if it's the first parameter [18:41:17] yeah, it doesn't look like there's anything [18:42:04] do you have the gadget loaded? [18:42:07] yep [18:42:13] it's activated in Preferences [18:42:40] it was working....and then it just wasn't [18:42:47] is it working for any of y'all? [18:42:57] > VM182:60 Uncaught SyntaxError: Unexpected token '/' [18:43:08] the comment you've added is being interpreted [18:43:13] its not being read as a comment [18:43:45] [1/10] ```js [18:43:45] [2/10] },*/ // temporary role [18:43:45] [3/10] 'checkuser': { [18:43:46] [4/10] label: 'CU', [18:43:46] [5/10] localized: 'CheckUser', [18:43:46] [6/10] link: 'https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/CheckUser', [18:43:46] [7/10] enabled: true [18:43:47] [8/10] },*/ // temporary role [18:43:47] [9/10] ``` [18:43:47] [10/10] there's no opening tag for the closing one before // temporary role [18:43:48] ohh [18:44:04] oops [18:44:29] am I just doing `*/ // temporary role/` [18:44:43] what is your intention? to comment out the checkuser but? [18:45:10] no just to add that comment, the CU bit was already there, I was just adding it for Suppression [18:45:36] [1/4] should just be: [18:45:36] [2/4] ``` [18:45:37] [3/4] }, // temporary role [18:45:37] [4/4] ``` [18:46:00] or hang on yeah, I guess comment it out [18:46:01] sorry [18:46:06] the entire section [18:46:29] [1/9] ```js [18:46:29] [2/9] /* [18:46:30] [3/9] 'checkuser': { [18:46:30] [4/9] label: 'CU', [18:46:30] [5/9] localized: 'CheckUser', [18:46:31] [6/9] link: 'https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/CheckUser', [18:46:31] [7/9] enabled: true [18:46:31] [8/9] },*/ // temporary role [18:46:32] [9/9] ``` [18:46:45] thanks [18:47:20] oh you have the same error on line 151 too [18:47:27] with global renamer [18:48:39] should be fixed? if you could check [[Special:Diff/393679]] [18:48:39] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:Diff/393679 [18:48:40] [18:49:08] yup [18:49:25] i did [18:49:25] thanks again [18:49:27] t'was a mess [18:49:41] it's confusing tho [18:50:48] any chance you know how to reactivate the gadget? [18:50:51] errors have been fixed it seems [18:50:54] but still not there [18:51:00] 😦 [18:51:02] purge your cache maybe? [18:51:11] let me try and enable it [18:51:16] tried that [18:52:24] [1/2] is this what its supposed to do? [18:52:25] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1236389988657270834/image.png?ex=6637d568&is=663683e8&hm=285579be3c55b72e5ca463dda282816b4ada3a906af8ded2fb40b478a01903ab& [18:52:37] yes [18:52:38] if so, working for me [18:52:40] hmm [18:52:46] maybe I just disable/reenable [18:53:35] oh it works [18:53:36] nice [18:53:38] ty [19:31:43] [1/3] how would i go about fixing this? the one on the right is what it's supposed to look like [19:31:44] [2/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1236399883389374535/image.png?ex=6637de9f&is=66368d1f&hm=082a6c62b1cc7c361178b971f49dccd6c7912fd54f01086f61afa1a4231b3f56& [19:31:44] [3/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1236399883628580915/image.png?ex=6637de9f&is=66368d1f&hm=6d1ae0f24d38db941fd94617a5fa8e8e7202ec42a58db03a04f5f02699334803& [19:35:05] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1236400729162518528/image.png?ex=6637df69&is=66368de9&hm=0d771fb84971e000835e2dc27caef96b2facf778776fe6f0f720b433f59e9417& [20:12:56] [1/4] this seems like an issue with a very obvious solution i'm not seeing, so i don't know if it needs a support thread, but i'm trying to get a video to show up properly on my wiki [20:12:56] [2/4] the wiki is used to host a comic, and every panel is the same size, ``901x557``, so i made a video which has basically a matching size (900x556) [20:12:57] [3/4] but it seems that no matter what i do, it'll either have the video player controls floating below (with empty space at the top) or be smaller than intended [20:12:57] [4/4] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1236410254556790887/image.png?ex=6637e848&is=663696c8&hm=c48cac489b8a07487b0f34ba6471d7efff0c61d7197c6bb998cd4fae9d93543a& [20:14:41] [1/2] is there any way for me to get the video to be its proper size, with the controls on the video? [20:14:42] [2/2] right now it's just on the page as ``[[File:ep1 bumper.mp4|left|900x900px]]``. changing it to 900x556px makes it use the 556 for both dimensions resulting in it being too small, and using just 900px reverts it to mediawiki's default video size [20:14:42] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/File:ep1_bumper.mp4 [21:17:12] We do not have the same infrastructure as on Fandom. The modules from Dev.Fandom need to be copied along to your wiki, and the template should refer to the module on your wiki, in stead of to our Dev.miraheze, as we can't run modules directly from our dev. [21:17:47] what happened with agentisai [21:17:49] ah ok [21:18:31] That has been discussed multiple times; it was also agreed to not dwell on it and move on [21:18:34] He found other interests [21:18:55] oh, sad [21:19:11] Formula1 was great [21:24:24] no more club penguin I guess [21:41:14] ogh sorry imma little stupid, how would i do this? i have the modules i just dont know how to find the dev:/dev. stuff [21:41:21] didnt mean to ping im sorry [21:54:05] Link? [21:54:29] https://minuselevation.miraheze.org/wiki/Firework_Carrier [22:00:30] [1/2] https://minuselevation.miraheze.org/wiki/Module:Quote [22:00:31] [2/2] Replace this file with https://dev.fandom.com/wiki/Module:Quote [22:01:33] ohh okok thx [22:07:16] uhh how would i replace it, just copy and paste, import xml, or smthn else? [22:12:33] this is on steward radar [22:17:09] Yeah, just copy and paste it [22:17:15] ah alr [22:17:55] [1/2] problem [22:17:56] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1236441709089390762/image.png?ex=66380593&is=6636b413&hm=258e26760ab46bb73d04c5559e77d49668d79fe2de49da929aacbb1e9f04a0ae& [22:18:04] would i just search for it on that wiki too? [22:18:28] Correct [22:18:47] kk [22:19:02] As you have moved over from Fandom, it is logical to take the same files with you [22:21:14] 🫡 [22:22:22] didnt work [22:28:44] I am not familiar with Fandoms way. Removing the `dev:` didn't help either. [22:30:36] actually [22:30:37] wait [22:30:45] [1/2] it's slightly different [22:30:46] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1236444939542466620/image.png?ex=66380895&is=6636b715&hm=dc3b1d4468c5aac614722a1594a4694afdca600043945ab435fb5a382dad964b& [22:34:26] Not it’s saying it’s missing something else [22:34:33] so progress? [22:35:13] Module:Arguments is ported over, but the message says Module Arguments not found [22:35:16] Weird [22:35:28] It's different from ours as well [22:35:30] https://dev.miraheze.org/wiki/Module:Arguments [22:35:39] https://minuselevation.miraheze.org/wiki/Module:Arguments [22:36:51] [1/2] it's specifically talking about this line i believe [22:36:52] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1236446473311354951/image.png?ex=66380a03&is=6636b883&hm=1f0642ebf8ddd956c96e868ea076b715808a822a0004025c4d1d2ea729a9612b& [22:37:14] Is it exactly the same title? [22:40:34] Yes [22:40:41] https://minuselevation.miraheze.org/wiki/Module:Arguments [22:41:36] hmp [22:41:37] @theoneandonlylegroom would know, but he's in dreamland atm. [22:41:55] I really do not get it [22:42:24] Xena might. I’d have to look closely at this and maybe refer to Scribunto’s docs. I don’t have the time today probably [22:42:39] I'm not sure whether they should replace them with our files from [[dev:]] [22:42:39] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/dev: [22:42:40] [22:44:00] It would be easier I guess, but not sure as they look different [23:02:29] I can try to work on this [23:02:33] Where is that staement? [23:02:56] I've imported Fandom templates and modules before so I could probably figure this out [23:03:04] Module:quotes and module:dialogue [23:03:27] I think it's alr gone after I replaced them though [23:03:33] Then I leave it with you [23:04:04] Hello, what is the "Wiki Creator" role reserved for? [23:04:13] Me! [23:04:16] People who review and then approve/decline wiki requests [23:04:18] hey over at the wiki.gg server we sometimes get wikis that are for people's personal projects, i am wondering should we recommend such wikis check out miraheze or would that not be a good fit here? [23:04:19] I am Wiki Creator [23:04:25] Oh ok [23:04:31] They're trusted Miraheze volunteers with experience with the global Miraheze policies and good communication skills [23:04:36] Thought it was the people that manage wiki [23:05:03] This misconception has come up a lot of times and I do think the name needs changing but I'll talk about that later, working on fixing a wiki's templates rn [23:05:03] Hm, yeah [23:05:12] Could you elaborate a little bit [23:05:18] on what personal projects is? [23:05:38] we host plenty of conlang worldbuilding and i think private note wikis so probably fine [23:05:39] No we judge requests, whether the requested wiki is viable to survive, has a seriouse topic/scope/purpose [23:05:41] Personally I don't think anyone should have wikis for personal projects, at that point just use fandom [23:05:56] it varies a bunch, but most often people want to use it as a place to store concepts for WIP stuff I think [23:06:01] Why would you want ads on a personal note wiki [23:06:14] Also plenty of people want their personal stuff to be private [23:06:25] It just a personal note :FuckFandom: [23:06:31] Hm, we have publictestwiki, so maybe that [23:06:35] Oh yeah forgot [23:07:09] I just thought that private stuff isn't something you would want to be spending hardware on [23:07:14] You should recommend them Miraheze for anything that would be in scope for Miraheze policies [23:07:15] I personally don’t like wikis for stuff that dies and gets abandoned but if someone wanted to make a wiki on a home dnd campaign or say private family recipes I think that’s fine [23:07:33] I see no reason to ban wiki's other then for reasons of illegal activity, vandalism or toxicity [23:07:34] im not sure thats a good fit, tbh if you support private wikis thats most likely what they'd want. i think it's something like wanting to use mediawiki instead of confluence for keeping internal docs [23:07:49] Fair. I’d say it depends [23:07:50] I know [23:07:55] yeah for sure [23:07:59] I am the most junior wiki creator so [23:08:08] I’d personally refer if I saw one [23:08:19] well it sounds like i could at least say "why dont you check out miraheze it might be a better fit than us" [23:08:21] I'm wondering if someone ever got my request lol [23:08:44] I'm likely the oldest 😄 [23:08:54] I once requested a wiki, forgot about it and it deleted itself [23:08:54] Yeah, we are historically more lienent in private wikis anyways [23:09:06] I mean by how long not by age lol [23:09:08] After that I sent another request and this time it got revived [23:09:20] 😄 [23:09:27] we also had one case where there was a user on a wiki who was getting into edit wars about a favorite character, and they basically wanted a fan wiki for one character in a video game, they ended up making a fandom wiki for it lol [23:09:35] I think excluding steward brandon is the most senior? Or one of [23:09:46] Hm. Hard to make a whole wiki about one character lol [23:09:55] [[wiki creators]] for posterity [23:09:55] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/wiki_creators [23:09:56] [23:09:59] also sounds very opinionated [23:10:14] i think, you will be surprised about the dedication some people have for favorite videogame characters [23:10:18] [1/2] this is from the fandom site but this is what it was [23:10:18] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1236454889975054356/image.png?ex=663811d9&is=6636c059&hm=668551e568c20c405680c25d3876c1e1c8040b9c7ad264286c0b579af7627df9& [23:10:21] just use notepad tbh [23:10:24] b4 being replaced [23:10:38] Steward/board member/wiki creator chiming in here, personal/private projects can absolutely be supported in many cases, provided there's a clear (and appropriately-sized) topic/scope [23:10:41] eh if its a bifg thing [23:10:46] Or notes app on a Samsung phone [23:10:53] fantastic, thank you! [23:10:53] I gtg now [23:10:53] A wiki for a single character... maybe not that one. [23:10:58] thanks for asmibg river :) [23:11:00] I do indeed have a dedicated app for note stuff [23:11:02] 😆 [23:11:04] olay is starting [23:11:10] But a wiki for a personal writing project, sure. [23:11:13] okay have fun yall [23:11:18] Thanks [23:11:26] I have a personal wiki that acts as my collection of notes [23:11:54] I am thinking about having one myself. 🙂 [23:12:19] I have big aspirations to use my personal wiki for notes and offbrand essays, then I just use it for config tests [23:12:40] good for troubleshooting but I seem very not cut out to run a wiki entirely on my own terms [23:12:44] I have so much interests and projects. So a private wiki would be helpful. But not yet [23:12:55] It has everything in it from "I hate this person" to "This is a quick hack to speed up vector match on SPARC processors" [23:13:04] my success in global volunteering is born from my failure to run wikis [23:13:26] We have test.wiki for that 😄 [23:14:31] Thinking about it, a private MediaWiki instance is so much better than notion or obsidian. It does not need to sync since it's already online, there is histories, you can link shit, you can import stuff from other wikis and the markup is extremely powerful. [23:15:49] inadequate actually and I sympathize with people who feel the same [23:15:55] @floral_seas I believe I have fixed the quote module, is there anything else you need help with? [23:15:59] it is unsuited to managewiki related troubleshooting in particular [23:16:17] it is a strictly sysop tools testing wiki which happens to have a good but potentially confusing handful of extensions enabled [23:16:42] nope that's it! thanks! [23:16:53] No problem! Also, I would suggest going to "manage this wiki's extensions" and enabling DynamicPageList3 as you seem to have some pages that try to use that extension [23:17:06] ah kk tyty [23:17:12] mediawiki has a ping template i can steal borrow right [23:17:22] its not that difficult to spin up mediawiki on a usb, only need to install linux on it [23:17:24] cause my own attempt at making one keeps making preformatted text blocks and it's annoying [23:17:25] np [23:17:36] You can run a local MediaWiki install on Windows as well [23:17:51] Don't even need a USB, I've been able to run a local MediaWiki install on both Windows and Ubuntu [23:17:52] yes, you can bitnami though trying to port changes over may fail [23:18:03] WAMP stack is torture. [23:18:08] I just used XAMPP [23:18:10] as in changes on wamp might not work on lamp [23:18:17] that's what I had running [23:18:23] noobs, I run my self host mediawiki on floppies cached on a zip drive [23:18:33] Sorry I know nothing about networking so I don't know what these big words mean but I just mean being able to use MediaWiki on localhost [23:18:36] lol [23:18:49] However it's difficult to get CreateWiki working on a local install [23:18:50] wamp is windows, apache, mysql, php [23:18:52] Possible but time consuming [23:18:54] ah ok [23:18:57] lamp is linux, apache, mysql, php [23:19:20] LNCE is what I use [23:19:23] [1/8] i'm not sure why it's doing that since it's honestly one of the simplest ones i've written: [23:19:23] [2/8] ```{{#switch:{{{1}}} [23:19:23] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/%23switch:Template:%7b%7b%7b1 [23:19:23] [3/8] |#default=[[User:{{{1}}}|{{{1}}}]] [23:19:23] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Template:%7b1 https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/User:%7b%7b%7b1%7d%7d%7d [23:19:24] [4/8] }}/includeonly [23:19:24] [5/8] [23:19:24] [6/8]

Usage: {{Ping|Username}}/nowiki/code [23:19:24] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Template:Ping [23:19:24] [7/8]

Used to ping people on talk pages. To ensure the notification shows up after you ping someone, you have to add your signature with /nowiki/code at the end of whatever you're adding, and you cannot alter anything that you didn't add. For more information, see [[mw:Help:Notifications/Types|this Mediawiki help page]]. [23:19:24] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Notifications/Types [23:19:25] [8/8] /noinclude``` [23:19:25] which means you know at least half of XAMPP now [23:19:35] changes made on XAMPP, may not completely work on actual linux [23:20:18] unless you want a wikifarm, no need for createwiki unless doing dev work [23:20:27] Dev work is what I meen [23:20:31] Also debugging [23:20:43] My local mediawiki install is only for dev stuff [23:20:59] maybe sre could build a docker container with createwiki and managewiki in working condition, whenever have time [23:21:14] I can deploy mediawiki instances on demand if I need to, with the power of VMWare ESXi [23:21:18] Good idea [23:21:23] CA was saying something about docker [23:21:37] i'm suggesting for later as CA is super busy [23:21:49] think he did it at one point but didn't maintain it if I'm remembering correctly [23:21:53] certainly not a now priority [23:23:21] [1/2] Collei, know you were holding off on feedback to my proposal for dealing with zombie wikis...did you get a chance to review? https://discord.com/channels/407504499280707585/407537962553966603/1234344424524222494 [23:23:21] [2/2] was able to make progress on some points that can be automated [23:23:54] separately, might be useful for removePII to generate a report of all wikis created by requesting user and close as "loss of interest" [23:26:06] Okay, I like where this is going, make proposals and RfC this. [23:28:43] One of the things that can happen to zombie wikis could be adoption (another avenue for those who are unaware previously that the wiki existed to step up and take responsibility for the wiki. [23:29:06] [1/2] @koreirose Please check [23:29:06] [2/2] https://dev.miraheze.org/wiki/Template:Dialogue [23:29:18] I think this is fine as long as the option is given that if someone comes across the wiki after closure and wants to reopen it and resume activity, they can [23:29:25] will do [23:30:13] What's wrong with the template? [23:30:32] Looks useful and don't see any issues [23:34:32] [1/2] is there an adoption policy? [23:34:32] [2/2] when determining _if_ any zombie wiki should be reopened at the very least, it can't just be a simple "please reopen this". There has to be some detailed plan... [23:35:18] True, and no there isn't any formal adoption policy, but there's the wiki governance and voting policy and the elections policy which could govern what to do if a wiki is dead [23:36:43] [1/3] to me if both of these conditions are met, just delete the wiki instead of close [23:36:43] [2/3] - there are 0 wiki leadership, either resigned or requested GDPR [23:36:44] [3/3] - there is no relevant activity. non wiki related logs should not be considered [23:37:25] if there are no wiki leadership, then its not comply with wiki governance and should at least be in suspension state [23:37:46] Yes, but also make sure there is little to no content, if there's content but a dead administration it should be left up long enough for someone to try to fix things [23:38:33] I would leave that to stewards to determine whether there is value, taking into consideration if there is an independent wiki where majority of community reside [23:39:00] There is framework for adoption but no centralized place where "Zombie wikis" are listed. If wikis get listed there, someone on MH might actually want to go and contribute. [23:39:24] The dormancy policy is enforce by a script not by Stewards [23:39:28] yeah minecraft is finally gone but it shouldn't have taken this long nor the reluctance/stubborn behavior [23:39:37] yes and its malfunctioning [23:39:45] Oh [23:39:55] worse is only 20% can be understood [23:39:58] What happened to your previous discord, by the way? [23:40:19] @solodayheavenofficial got banned from Discord for a day and I decided to just switch back to this one because it's my oldest account [23:40:38] how do you keep getting banned from platforms? [23:40:43] If you mean what happened to Colleirose, it got banned for spam, Discord sent me two separate responses to my appeal, the first response telling me they won't unban me, then the second response telling me my account doesn't exist [23:40:56] not 100% sure, I think some of these are probably automated bans because of how often they say spambot and things like that [23:41:11] I asked Discord what I was banned for and they would not tell me [23:42:00] I acknowledge of course that it is probably my fault in some way but I don't really know what to do [23:42:06] [1/2] discord's system is dumb [23:42:06] [2/2] in order to report a message, you can't delete it...because they do not have message archives [23:42:23] so its either mods delete or leave it for report [23:42:31] If you right click -> report I believe it doesn't matter if the message is deleted afterwards [23:42:47] [1/2] Oh nice [23:42:48] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1236463066854723715/image.png?ex=66381977&is=6636c7f7&hm=39908331b8347721f275178dd16813758e05f7442450f587ac095b7a4f670b19& [23:42:48] really? because the actual form says to not delete it [23:42:56] They removed the form a long time ago [23:43:00] It's all in-app reporting now [23:43:02] No issues is what I wanted to read 🙂 Thanks [23:43:09] np [23:43:18] The issue is there is no way to add context surrounding a report though [23:43:31] oh so trolls can false report [23:44:00] You can easily manipulate context in reports. [23:45:02] I really think that most of my bans on Discord are manipulated context and AI because even when I try to be on my best behavior I'll still get in trouble for things that make no sense, especially the graphic content violation (which did get removed on appeal) which makes no sense [23:46:27] there is one partnered discord in literal and blatant violation of majority expectations, contact basically said "sorry about this but we can't act" [23:46:37] There must be something as I have never had issues on any social media account [23:46:42] yea [23:46:47] I am sure I've done something wrong but I do not know what [23:47:12] usually its an activist who doesn't like what you said and decided to get lurkers to mass report you [23:47:47] makes sense (went on this account to check what account standing looks like) [23:47:55] (OLD ACCOUNT) [23:48:01] Yea [23:48:08] Well I still check this account every few days but it's not my main [23:48:17] lol [23:48:40] Changed to alt instead of old I guess [23:50:41] The fact you get banned on Discord so often raises concerns. [23:50:44] [1/2] if you guys think my draft is ok, go ahead and file it. [23:50:44] [2/2] would also suggest an adoption policy separately [23:51:06] what draft? [23:51:07] depends on what for, its the same thing that happened on twitter before Elon bought it [23:51:15] scroll up [23:52:22] https://discord.com/channels/407504499280707585/407537962553966603/1234344424524222494 [23:52:52] yeah, looks good to me [23:53:31] Elon gave Twitter a lot more problems than just the lack of moderation [23:53:42] Also he banned that ElonJet account too and other dumb stuff like that [23:55:45] What do you do when someone is saying bad things about you? [23:55:51] got on the wrong side of the ai probably, tbh [23:56:08] Buy the platform, and get ridd of the guy ─ Musk