[19:15:28] Anyone fancy chancing merging https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/c/mediawiki/vendor/+/1221974 and I guess https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/c/mediawiki/core/+/1221975 for the moment... [19:56:38] sure [22:56:11] Reedy: this is probably a relatively minor point (although in any event probably good to clarify understandings), but should tasks for PHP 8.4/8.5 CI failures be tagged with the WMF-deployed build failure Phab project? [22:56:28] just asking the understanding that i'd personally picked up over time was that the 'WMF build failure' project was for CI errors that were blocking the merging of patches in WMF-deployed repos / that were in the main/gate-and-submit tests. [22:56:30] it's very possible that i have a mistaken understanding, though :) [22:56:31] TBH, it's very unclear [22:56:42] For me, if it is stuff we deploy to WMF... yes [23:00:12] https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/project/view/4742/ [23:00:18] >This tag is used to track issues with Jenkins jobs (in the test or gate pipeline of Zuul, or post-merge in Travis CI) that are failing due to the master branch of a WMF-deployed repository having reached a state that is not consistently passing its own tests. [23:06:39] A_smart_kitten: and more specifically... [23:06:40] >MediaWiki core tests failing on Travis CI for PHP versions, or database backends, not yet covered by our Jenkins jobs. [23:06:56] I guess that travis comment is irrelevant now (let me fix it) [23:09:02] I was gonna say, I assume it at least predates when I got more actively involved in wikimedia dev stuff :) [23:11:05] It's been a few years since travis swapped for github actions on many repos [23:12:13] anyhow, fair fair, that example in the Phab project description clears up the scope for me then :) mostly i just wanted to make sure i was working off the same understanding as everyone else about it [23:18:21] the only other thing that occured to me was in case anyone wanted to track how often CI errors blocked merges in a Wikimedia-deployed repo (and wanted to use the wmf-build-failure project to do that) [23:19:53] AFAIK we haven't tried to model that... [23:20:23] measure [23:34:49] fair enough