[02:30:51] https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=D._Keith_Mano&type=revision&diff=1021663456&oldid=1021632515 what's the point of removing invisible LTR marks? Is it because they might fuck with screenreaders? [02:31:11] and how is it that they get into the text in the first place? [03:12:36] Dragonfly6-7, I think that bot was just fixing a double-space. (I tried pasting the change into https://www.babelstone.co.uk/Unicode/whatisit.html and it says they are just plain "space"). The unclear edit-summary is partially explained by the note at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:FrescoBot/Details#Link-related - in your case, only the "[...] and minor changes" applied. :) [03:13:53] ah [03:14:22] second question still applies, thoug [03:19:03] How the 2 double-spaces got in there? I guess that would depend on any tools and edits you used during creation. There's nothing listed in the editfilters, so I'm not sure if you used any wiki-features during creation? I accidentally double-space when pasting/rearranging text all the time, so if it were me I'd blame myself! [03:20:55] no [03:21:04] I'm specifically asking about invisible LTR marks [03:21:12] even if that's not what the issue was here [17:55:03] Anyone who is active as a tool maintainer or code contributor, but not active in editing on a wiki: there is a call for discussion of Board election criteria for technical contributors at T281977 that you may want to participate in. [17:55:04] T281977: Reconsidering of eligibility criteria for technical contributions in elections - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T281977 [22:10:15] bd808: nice write-up. no doubt the criteria need to be updated. I wonder how many technical contributors there are in practice that don't also meet the criteria for editors, which are pretty light. [22:28:35] ori: that's a question I have no answer for. anecdotally I know of 1 tech volunteer in that position. I guess I could say me too, but I have the staff qualification and maybe even enough edits on mw.o to count [22:29:33] a big oops in this today is that we don't have a canonical way to map Developers to SUL identities to compare [22:52:25] I remember this being a complicated discussion a decade or so ago [22:52:39] Then the elections started losing meaning anyway so few cared any more