[05:21:51] Would a phab admin please delete this spam: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T62607#6500714 [09:05:32] JJMC89[m]: done [11:52:00] Hello. There are some issues with OTRS, which shows "Internal server error" for some pages. Can anybody have a look on that? [12:11:53] akosiaris: ^ [12:26:35] Whatever you did, it looks better now. [12:32:51] krd: sorry if this is a bit out the blue, but are you from Germany? [12:33:02] yes [12:33:14] (I used to work with someone who was known as "krd" to everyone) [12:33:58] Yes, that was me. :) [12:34:05] Heh. World's a village. [12:34:35] I am in Switzerland, still, but oscillated through assorted companies before starting to work for WMF. [12:53:17] krd: I 'll have a look at the logs [12:54:22] got a rough timeline ? [12:54:56] akosiaris: it´s now up again, i don't know if anything was done. [12:55:23] I don't think so [12:55:24] started arounmd an hour ago, i think [12:55:48] At least I can access everything now. [12:55:49] I don't see anyone having done anything about it. it probably was fixed on its own, but if logs have something it could help [12:59:00] I asked here nearly directly after I noticed, but i don't know how long it was broken before, as I wasn't much active today. [13:09:52] krd: TicketID=11529925 perhaps? [13:10:31] ? [13:10:48] I don't see anything special in the ticket. [13:10:55] krd: sorry, I wasn't clear. Was it perhaps the ticket you were looking into 11529925 ? [13:11:12] cause I got some log lines about that ticket around the time you mentioned and I am trying to correlate [13:11:14] very unlikely [13:11:32] its in info-en where i don't normally look [13:11:51] I noticed when doing admin work [13:12:29] https://ticket.wikimedia.org/otrs/index.pl?Action=AdminUser&Subaction=Change&ID=1897 [13:12:35] ah, thanks! [13:12:42] should have been one link that didn't work [13:15:29] yeah, I think I can correlate something with that. I got the access time and found a somewhat useful error. I 'll open up a task, but this is weird [13:24:52] Ok, thank you. [13:38:39] sounds good to me. [13:44:18] krd: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T264093 Doesn't look too bad, and requiring a human to cause it, plus it fixes itself [13:45:11] Thx! [15:56:52] apergos: thanks [16:40:56] How can I provide a link to the wikitext of a page (rather than the parsed page) without it being an edit link? [16:42:04] Something like the source view for a protected page that you don't have the right to edit, except for a page that isn't protected. [16:45:15] Is 'view source' only possible on pages where editing isn't allowed? The help page is unclear on that: v [16:45:17] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:View_source [16:45:19] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Page?action=raw [16:45:27] most browsers will try and download it though [16:45:48] yeah, I knew that one, but because of the browser behavior, that's not what I'm looking for. [16:46:13] I want to be able to link someone to a view where they can copy and paste the source of a page, without worry about them saving an edit. [16:46:36] The other option is the API... [16:46:45] But then you get escaping and stuff that is not pretty to look at [16:47:41] okay. so the 'view source' view is strictly a fallback to action=edit and the like? [16:49:00] yes [16:49:12] "View source" is the same thing as "Edit", but when you can't edit [16:49:23] alas. thanks! [16:49:49] i think for action=raw, you can specify the desired 'content-type' header [16:49:55] so that it won't trigger a download [16:50:38] (also, it doesn't trigger a download for me) [16:52:56] looks like ctype=text/css is the only one that works without triggering a download in my browser.