[10:50:35] <dtm>	 could someone participate in this? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Multiple_image#Absolute_image_sizes  they're wanting to add support for 'thumb' but they say it's not possible to access a user's thumbnail size.  do you know how?
[12:37:15] <legoktm>	 I don't believe there's any way to access a user's thumb prefs in wikitext
[17:42:52] <bd808>	 why do we even have "users' default image size preferences"? How does making thumb sizes a viewer's choice make sense?
[17:56:50] <MatmaRex>	 i think it makes sense as long as it's defined in pixels, since people use screens with different resolutions
[17:58:01] <MatmaRex>	 also, our current defaults… appear to have been picked when 1024px or 1280px width was the norm
[20:30:28] <dtm>	 bd808: how wouldn't it?  that's the most basic concept of visual design, let alone the GUI.
[20:31:29] <dtm>	 07:37 < legoktm> I don't believe there's any way to access a user's thumb prefs in wikitext <-- simple question from a cluebie...  so if that's true, then do File: and Image: only do it because they're built into mediawiki?
[20:31:38] <dtm>	 instead of being templates?
[20:33:38] <dtm>	 my idea is that there are way too many image gallery templates, aren't there?  they're pretty redundant.  and none of them can have a scalable size except 'upright' i think.  correct?
[20:54:16] <bd808>	 dtm: I'm not sure I follow your argument. I can't think of a single other content publishing platform I have worked on/with that has a per-user interface option to alter the appearance images in a published article.
[20:54:51] <bd808>	 from a content caching/edge delivery perspective it seems very difficult to scale
[20:55:25] <bd808>	 unless maybe it was just a client side rendering hint that was delivered out of band from the cached content
[21:04:34] <Nemo_bis>	 Hmm that's interesting... do the unwashed masses nowadays even get the difference between a publication (possibly conveyed via a CMS) and an application (say a social media or news feed with configurable sizes)? 
[21:10:26] <bd808>	 Nemo_bis: you tricked me into re-reading https://wiki.c2.com/?UnwashedMasses ;)
[21:47:18] <Nemo_bis>	 :)
[21:49:50] <htz>	 hi Nemo_bis