[21:42:11] <jeblad>	 At nowiki we have deprecation waring on 3 pages using <source>
[21:42:31] <jeblad>	 Actual numbers are somewhat higher (473 pages)
[21:42:40] <James_F>	 Presumably triggered by parse?
[21:43:31] <jeblad>	 But… Who the kitty deprecated this without any warning? This is the kind of actions that triggers people.
[21:44:36] <jeblad>	 Someone (that is me) is going to be yelled at because someone (who-the-heck) has done this, and everything tech is blamed on me?
[21:45:38] <jeblad>	 It would be VERY NICE to get a warning on things like that! (Not yelling at James_F, just … somebody…)
[21:45:59] <James_F>	 jeblad: Without warning? It was announced years ago, wasn't it?
[21:46:07] <Reedy>	 https://github.com/wikimedia/mediawiki-extensions-SyntaxHighlight_GeSHi/commit/f5b61126da850fa0b1ef743f37aad8e8568f628f
[21:46:08] * James_F looks around.
[21:46:56] <James_F>	 Hidden-to-readers clean-up categories shouldn't be that surprising.
[21:48:07] <James_F>	 jeblad: Hmm, apparently it was only in this week's Tech/News: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Tech/News/2020/16
[21:48:17] * jeblad was planning on doing something usefull, not cleaning up this mess
[21:48:31] <James_F>	 Does nowiki get Tech/News delivered, either in English or translated form?
[21:50:06] <James_F>	 I would not rush around fixing <source to <syntaxhighlight, anyway.
[21:50:18] <James_F>	 If nothing else, wait long enough and someone will bot fix them for you. ;-)
[21:50:39] <jeblad>	 I am the one that has to do bot fixing
[21:59:03] <bd808>	 jeblad: https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikitech-ambassadors/2020-April/002284.html -- there is no timeline for removal of <source> yet. l.egoktm is planning on checking the tracking categories in *6 months* to see how cleanup is going.
[21:59:21] <bd808>	 So don't drop all you current work to fix :)
[22:00:04] <bd808>	 I jut fixed wikitech, but that was because the cat only had 9 pages in it
[22:00:23] <jeblad>	 That is not the way to handle this kind of maintenance at nowiki, something is red, someone techie will be to blame
[22:00:47] <James_F>	 jeblad: Then block the complainers until they stop? ;-)
[22:02:02] <bd808>	 "red" would only be the new tracking cat not having a page. Borrow https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Category:Pages_using_deprecated_source_tags or write a quick version yourself
[22:02:07] * Reedy wonders how many commits jeblad has to MW core and deployed extensions
[22:03:19] * bd808 wonders if it will take more than 48 hours for PWB to have a fixer script for <source>
[22:03:48] <Reedy>	 Not like it's difficult replacements to script...
[22:05:52] <bd808>	 s/<script/<syntaxhighlight/g; s/script>/syntaxhighlight>/g;
[22:08:06] <jeblad>	 replacement of xml-lookalike are never safe to remove blindly
[22:09:01] <Reedy>	 You can definitely do it semi-automatedly pretty quickly
[22:09:19] <AntiComposite>	 AWB or PWB, both have semi-auto modes
[22:11:01] * AntiComposite has never used the built-in pwb scripts. Probably should figure those out
[22:20:28] <jeblad>	 Reedy, I believe there is one to the core
[22:20:47] <jeblad>	 Afew on extensions
[22:22:16] <Tks4Fish>	 hey there! is there a way to query if a page is a redirect through the API? I managed to get an empty 'redirects:"" ' using ?action=query&prop=redirects&titles=Olival%20(ourém)&prop=info (which is a redirect), but I don't know if that would happen to all the pages
[22:22:28] <Tks4Fish>	 by to all the pages I mean to all the redirects
[22:22:37] <Tks4Fish>	 because the one non-redirect I tested didn't have that
[22:23:16] <jeblad>	 Redirects has a class added
[22:23:33] <jeblad>	 on-wiki it is much easier to use that
[22:24:54] <Tks4Fish>	 oh, I thought it was due to the gadget I use
[22:25:22] <Tks4Fish>	 thanks :D
[22:25:51] <AntiComposite>	 if you're wondering, yes, in the prop=info response, "redirect":"" means it's a redirect
[22:27:06] <Tks4Fish>	 ty :D
[22:30:20] <AntiComposite>	 Don't know if that's documented anywher, it's not on https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/API:Info#Parameter_history
[22:46:35] <bd808>	 I think that &formatversion=2 would change `"redirect":""` to `"redirect": true` which makes more semantic sense
[22:47:27] <bd808>	 the xml->json mappings in formatversion=1 are kind of lame
[22:51:26] <AntiComposite>	 it does
[22:52:45] <AntiComposite>	 but I don't think anyone wrote down anywhere that action=query&prop=info returns anything about redirects
[23:05:41] <bd808>	 AntiComposite: Bug#1 "Our docs are teh suck. Fix them up."
[23:06:08] * bd808 is still sad that id changed and the bug was closed in the phab migration
[23:06:20] <bd808>	 T2001
[23:06:21] <stashbot>	 T2001: [DO NOT USE] Documentation is out of date, incomplete (tracking) [superseded by #Documentation] - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T2001
[23:07:08] <AntiComposite>	 #Tracking-Neverending is right