[00:22:35] <rendysurvage>	 What would be best practice for how many extra namespaces would be feasable? I was trying to run 3 but I'm having issues initializing the 3rd. I think I will be fine with just the two but I wanted to ask because I'm hitting a brick wall with the 3rd.
[00:22:59] <Reedy>	 You can have hundreds if you really wanted
[00:23:12] <rendysurvage>	 I figured as much. Very scalable software.
[00:23:38] <Reedy>	 2147483647/2
[00:23:58] * James_F grins at Reedy.
[00:24:14] <James_F>	 If we need more than 2^32 I guess we could hack something in.
[00:24:22] <rendysurvage>	 I'm not sure then why I'm having issues with the 3rd when I defined them virtually the same way as the other two.
[00:24:24] <Reedy>	 I don't think MW will let you use the negative numbers, right?
[00:24:32] <Reedy>	 rendysurvage: Pastebin the code/config? :)
[00:24:44] <James_F>	 Reedy: Nope, -1 and -2 are special.
[00:24:45] <rendysurvage>	 Yeah let me tidy it up of creds and I'll post
[00:24:56] <Reedy>	 You shouldn't need the whole file, just the namespace adding bit
[00:25:07] <Reedy>	 James_F: Sure, but what about < -2 down to -2147483647? :P
[00:26:09] <James_F>	 Reedy: I'm pretty sure I've seen code checking < 0 to mean "special".
[00:26:18] <Reedy>	 Probably
[00:26:27] * AntiComposite would not be surprised
[00:26:39] <Reedy>	 	public function isSpecialPage() {
[00:26:39] <Reedy>	 		return $this->mNamespace == NS_SPECIAL;
[00:26:39] <Reedy>	 	}
[00:26:55] <Reedy>	 I mean, 2147483647/2 namespaces ought to be enough for anyone..
[00:27:24] <rendysurvage>	 http://ix.io/2eDA
[00:27:26] <Reedy>	 		// Can't protect pages in special namespaces
[00:27:26] <Reedy>	 		if ( $this->mNamespace < 0 ) {
[00:27:26] <Reedy>	 			return false;
[00:27:26] <Reedy>	 		}
[00:28:01] <Reedy>	 /$wgContentNamespaces[NS_POLICY, NS_PROCEDURE, NS_METHOD, NS_MAIN];
[00:28:03] <AntiComposite>	 translatewiki.net probably won't even use that many
[00:28:07] <rendysurvage>	 I have angered the bot gods
[00:28:08] <Reedy>	 That wouldn't be valid PHP btw
[00:28:27] <Reedy>	 $wgContentNamespaces = [NS_POLICY, NS_PROCEDURE, NS_METHOD, NS_MAIN];
[00:28:30] <Reedy>	 would work
[00:28:56] <Reedy>	 Anyway. What do you mean they don't work?
[00:29:12] <Reedy>	 Oh, and you can't use the NS_* before the define
[00:29:15] <rendysurvage>	 enabled gives me error 500
[00:29:50] <rendysurvage>	 OH so my defines are resulting in NS_NS_POLICY?
[00:29:56] <Reedy>	 $wgNamespaceProtection{NS_METHOD] = array( 'editmethod' );
[00:30:00] <Reedy>	 You've got a { and a ]
[00:30:05] <Reedy>	 Not a [ and a ]
[00:30:57] <Reedy>	 No, I was meaning if your code was in that order, $wgContentNamespaces[] = NS_PROCEDURE; (if uncommented) wouldn't work
[00:31:45] <rendysurvage>	 Got it. The tutorial said = NS_FOO so i thought I'd just put it in the brackets as I assumed it was an array
[00:31:58] <rendysurvage>	 linear linked list or something similar
[00:33:02] <rendysurvage>	 is NS_MAIN predefined? I saw it in defaults. I put it in because my pages won't display after uncommenting my ContentNamespaces
[00:33:21] <Reedy>	 It is
[00:34:55] <Reedy>	 https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/P10726
[00:34:58] <Reedy>	 Should work fine
[00:36:40] <rendysurvage>	 I appreciate you helping out. It's working fine now. Must be my fat fingers.
[00:37:12] <Reedy>	 [ { are on the same button... maybe mispressed shift
[00:37:24] <rendysurvage>	 was it because my defines were after my contentnamespaces?
[00:37:34] <rendysurvage>	 ah well
[00:38:03] <rendysurvage>	 thank you. I'm going to look over the changes you made. Now to migrate my pages to the new namespaces.
[00:38:37] <Reedy>	 Like I say, you had a { where you should've had a [
[00:38:44] <Reedy>	 on this line
[00:38:44] <Reedy>	 $wgNamespaceProtection{NS_METHOD] = array( 'editmethod' );
[00:39:14] <Reedy>	 vs
[00:39:20] <Reedy>	 $wgNamespaceProtection[NS_METHOD] = array( 'editmethod' );
[00:40:07] <rendysurvage>	 Yeah I had made that correction but it didn't work. I think maybe I misunderstood how difinitions work in php. Like C, have to define before you use?
[00:40:59] <Reedy>	 yeah, you can't use something before it's defined
[00:41:16] <Reedy>	 You might want to check your webserver logs for the actual errors
[00:41:59] <rendysurvage>	 Yeah I'm working with someone and he hasn't given me an ssh login yet. aka I don't own the server.
[00:42:07] <rendysurvage>	 I'll get it though. That will be very helpful.
[00:42:34] <Reedy>	 For information on debugging (including viewing errors), see https://mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:How_to_debug . A list of related configuration variables is at https://mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Configuration_settings#Debug.2Flogging Also see https://mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Errors_and_symptoms
[00:42:39] <rendysurvage>	 I have ftp to the wiki folder and a sql login but no ssh
[00:43:49] <rendysurvage>	 Thank you again, Reedy 
[05:46:17] <Gopa>	 zhuyifei1999_: Hi, Yesterday we developed our newer version of VideoCutTool version 0.3 and deployed here https://videocuttool.wmflabs.org/ Can you please update in the gadget script and in the commons side bar link?
[06:28:40] <zhuyifei1999_>	 Gopa: mind ending an {{edit request}}?
[06:28:44] <zhuyifei1999_>	 *sending
[06:44:25] <Gopa>	 zhuyifei1999_: yeah Where should I request the edit request ?
[06:44:48] <zhuyifei1999_>	 the talk page of the gadget
[06:45:00] <Gopa>	 okay sure :)
[06:45:04] <zhuyifei1999_>	 where the code of the gadget is located
[06:45:29] <Gopa>	 lemme check now
[06:45:38] <zhuyifei1999_>	 it's best if you post a diff of old version vs new version
[06:46:22] <Gopa>	 okay
[06:47:01] * Gopa currently outside I will be back in 30min from now
[08:06:09] <Gopa>	 zhuyifei1999_: Requested here: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/MediaWiki_talk:Gadget-VideoCutTool
[08:12:02] <zhuyifei1999_>	 i.e. I don't want whether the request to be done to be dependent on whether you ping me. 
[08:12:25] <zhuyifei1999_>	 what if I vanish / die one day :)
[08:14:15] <bawolff>	 zhuyifei1999_: then we'd be sad :'(
[08:19:09] <zhuyifei1999_>	 :(
[08:22:24] * Gopa sorry for the pings :|
[08:25:20] <Stryn>	 why is MediaWiki:Retrievedfrom at bottom of each page on mediawiki.org (and test.wikipedia)? example: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/MediaWiki
[08:25:55] <bawolff>	 Stryn: Its a bug, we are aware, it will be fixed tomorrow
[08:26:11] <Stryn>	 ok thanks, is there any task on phab?
[08:26:24] <bawolff>	 Stryn: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T247566
[08:26:40] <bawolff>	 The fixed tomorrow part is from various irc discussions
[08:37:54] <apergos>	 it's only on test wikis and mediawiki.org at the moment
[08:40:32] <apergos>	 I expect that in the evening for europe/morning for the US everything will be double checked and then the fix will go out
[08:52:14] <apergos>	 (10:49:45 πμ) marostegui: We have a maintenance window in 10 minutes that might affect gerrit, for around 30-45 seconds
[12:26:25] <kalle>	 Hi all! Not sure this is the best channel for my question, but where can I find information about setting up a project on gerrit.wikimedia.org that is synced from a GitHub project? I.e. the GitHub project is the primary source. Is there something deployed in the infra that already does this, or should we setup a cronjob somewhere?
[12:35:22] <Nemo_bis>	 kalle: what is the purpose of the gerrit mirror, if I may ask?
[12:35:53] <Nemo_bis>	 IIRC we sometimes made some secondary mirrors on Phabricator's Diffusion, dunno if that's still recommended.
[12:41:55] <kalle>	 Nemo_bis: It's for Blubberization of our services in the Wikispeech/Speechoid project, to make a long story short.
[12:48:29] <Nemo_bis>	 I see
[13:36:40] <Krenair>	 kalle, that's strange, normally gerrit is the primary and github gets a read-only mirror
[13:36:45] <Krenair>	 why this way around?
[13:43:19] <kalle>	 Krenair: To make the story a little bit longer, some services we use aren't ours, and there are security policies when blubberizing.
[13:44:05] <Krenair>	 what is blubberising?
[13:44:36] <kalle>	 Krenair: https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Blubber
[13:46:48] <Krenair>	 so it'll only pull from gerrit?
[13:47:59] <kalle>	 No external communication what so ever.
[13:48:33] <kalle>	 Only trusted WM docker images and WM apt repo, etc.
[13:48:45] <Krenair>	 so you want to evade this by having gerrit mirror a repo it wouldn't trust?
[13:49:07] <kalle>	 We trust the repo, we will have to manually confirm each merge
[13:50:54] <kalle>	 Is is a rather different discussion than the original question though, if there is a tool for syncing Gerrit from an external repo.
[13:50:57] <kalle>	 :D
[14:31:43] <mutante>	 kalle: gerrit syncs to github
[14:32:08] <mutante>	 but it's just _from_ gerrit, not to
[15:05:30] <pinchies>	 hello, I'm getting 408 on wikimedia and wikipedia when trying to upload images or edit pages. "Request from - via cp5008.eqsin.wmnet, ATS/8.0.6Error: 408, Inactive Timeout at 2020-03-19 14:57:18 GMT"
[15:27:58] <andre__>	 pinchies, hi, on which website?
[15:28:35] <pinchies>	 that error was from wikimedia
[15:28:43] <pinchies>	 but was having issues saving pages on wikipedia too
[15:28:56] <pinchies>	 uploading images would time out
[15:29:28] <pinchies>	 worked fine intermittenly
[15:34:56] <andre__>	 pinchies: I don't think you can upload on wikimedia.org. Did you mean meta.wikimedia.org? Or commons.wikimedia.org? Which Wikipedia?
[15:39:28] <pinchies>	 sorry, uploading to wikimedia commons using the wizard (https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:UploadWizard) and saving edits to pages on en.wikipedia.org
[15:39:47] <pinchies>	 was having problems with both
[15:40:14] <pinchies>	 the error message was from wikimedia though