[10:37:21] Hello! I noticed a slowdown in work on Serbian Wikipedia, as well as difficulty in publishing changes and reviewing it. Is it because of the future updating MediaWiki version?. [10:37:53] Thanks in advance. [10:42:15] <_joe_> Acamicamacaraca: no I don't think that's the reason [10:45:22] hmm... [10:46:12] For example, when I try to publish an edit, ERR_SPDY_PROTOCOL_ERROR appears [10:47:15] Some Wikipedians have said they will start preparing articles in Wordpad xD [11:26:57] Acamicamacaraca, there have been some nginx upgrades going on today shown on SAL [11:27:06] that... might explain that? [11:30:13] Interesting. This may be the case [11:33:10] <_joe_> yes indeed [11:33:16] <_joe_> can you please file a task? [11:33:30] <_joe_> I'll ask the relevant people to join [11:34:34] <_joe_> vgutierrez: Acamicamacaraca was reporting getting ERR_SPDY_PROTOCOL_ERROR sporadically [11:34:55] <_joe_> Acamicamacaraca: are the errors persisting? [11:35:22] so, we've been upgrading nginx on several servers today, those being depooled/pooled again after the change [11:35:47] that could explain a temporary hiccup [11:36:15] Let me just try publishing another change to see if the problem occurs again [11:36:33] <_joe_> oh so it was only happening while publishing? [11:36:53] and reviewing changes [11:37:12] But i notice slowdown and slow loading of recent changes [11:42:03] <_joe_> ok that could be a slight database overload though [11:42:18] <_joe_> the protocol error was more immediately worrisome [11:42:42] so far we've only upgraded 1 text server in esams [11:42:54] <_joe_> that's the datacenter that serves europe [11:43:04] we could easily discard the nginx upgrade by checking the x-cache header for Acamicamacaraca [11:43:06] <_joe_> for the uninitiated :P [11:43:23] and see which cache server is Acamicamacaraca reaching [11:43:49] I find it strange that slowdowns occur in some Wikipedia people, while others do not [11:44:14] <_joe_> if it's different wikis, that is easily explained [11:44:27] Nope. On Serbian Wiki [11:44:29] <_joe_> if it's the same wiki, then the reason might be out of our control I guess [11:44:53] <_joe_> same ISP or different ones? [11:45:28] <_joe_> if all the people with issues are on the same ISP, that's one explanation :) [11:46:11] <_joe_> Acamicamacaraca: alternatively - do you have the same problem on enwiki? [11:46:25] <_joe_> or dewiki for that matter [11:46:27] Me, Lotom, Vilena are have problems, while Soundwaweserb, MareBG and Kizule do not [11:46:34] let me check [11:47:37] Yup. Loading Random Article and Recent Changes was slow [11:47:45] <_joe_> in enwiki as well? [11:47:56] <_joe_> then I would bet it's ISP related [11:48:06] <_joe_> I have to go afk - important meeting I can't miss [11:48:18] 'kay [11:50:05] <_joe_> Acamicamacaraca: report here if you find out all the people having issues share the same ISP though [11:50:23] <_joe_> someone else can use that information [13:47:12] Hi [13:47:37] I managed to record an slowdown and error [13:47:42] https://screencast-o-matic.com/watch/cqj2IptcwG [13:48:33] Also, I checked internet speed and it's seem fast enought [13:50:17] thx Acamicamacaraca, we're working on that right now [13:50:39] BTW [13:51:27] Vilena66 said she have some dificulties to upload file on Commons [13:51:53] And have the same slowdown as I [14:00:25] Technical Advice IRC meeting starting in 60 minutes in channel #wikimedia-tech, hosts: @Lucas_WMDE & @tgr - all questions welcome, more infos: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Technical_Advice_IRC_Meeting [14:50:24] Technical Advice IRC meeting starting in 10 minutes in channel #wikimedia-tech, hosts: @Lucas_WMDE & @tgr - all questions welcome, more infos: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Technical_Advice_IRC_Meeting [15:14:28] <_joe_> Acamicamacaraca: a small update [15:14:35] <_joe_> we have confirmed there is a problem [15:14:48] <_joe_> and we're investigating [15:15:24] mhm [15:15:36] Okay [15:31:09] <_joe_> Acamicamacaraca: sorry this is a very elusive bug, that only affects specific users it seems [15:31:27] <_joe_> so it's pretty weird and hard to track down. [15:33:21] Everything will work out. Wiki won't fall if there aren't a couple editors. [17:01:21] <_joe_> Acamicamacaraca: can I ask you if you have some beta features enabled? [17:01:57] Yup [17:02:01] I have... [17:02:27] <_joe_> the new video player? [17:02:38] yup [17:02:40] <_joe_> can you tell me if disabling it makes all pages load better? [17:02:52] I will try [17:02:56] <_joe_> maybe on second load at least [17:03:24] <_joe_> thanks, we think that's a candidate for the issue - I'm seeing slow loading times on all pages that have a video or audio with that beta feature enabled [17:06:38] It didn't really help :( [17:07:23] <_joe_> ok [17:07:39] <_joe_> so we've tracked down a different problem on our side it seems. [17:09:31] I noticed something really crazy. When I try to load a wiki page, loading speeds up by opening a new tab and loading a random website [17:10:58] <_joe_> ok that seems definitely not like an issue on our side though [17:11:21] <_joe_> I am pretty sure with that beta feature disabled, you should load a lot of pages faster [17:11:28] So strange. I've never seen this before. [17:11:33] <_joe_> Indeed [17:12:28] I will contact the ISP just in case [17:13:55] <_joe_> Acamicamacaraca: are you sure you disabled the beta feature? I'm pretty sure there is a bug there and it's advisable to disable it for now [17:14:05] <_joe_> so do it for good measure anyways :) [17:14:12] <_joe_> on all wikis, I mean [17:14:32] http://prntscr.com/osotko [17:14:39] I disabled it globall [17:14:50] <_joe_> ok [17:15:07] <_joe_> I have to trust you on that, I can't read serbian :D [17:16:50] hehe xD