[02:08:11] <musikanimal>	 hello! shouldn't this return the namespaces in German, since I added uselang=de ? https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/api.php?action=query&meta=siteinfo&siprop=namespaces&uselang=de
[02:09:35] <musikanimal>	 or rather, how can I get localized namespace for metawiki? is this not possible using the API?
[03:34:37] <snitch>	 [[Tech]]; Killiondude; /* Do Wikimedia sites have sitemaps? */ re; https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?diff=19159551&oldid=19159407&rcid=13727227
[03:44:04] <legoktm>	 musikanimal: Meta's namespaces are just in English
[03:44:49] <musikanimal>	 legoktm: but I see localized names in the dropdown at https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions?uselang=de
[03:45:06] <musikanimal>	 (same for any wiki)
[03:46:11] <legoktm>	 sure, but like the namespace is still "User", e.g. https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Legoktm?uselang=de
[03:46:34] <legoktm>	 https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Benutzer:Legoktm?uselang=de doesn't work of course
[03:46:59] <musikanimal>	 yeah, I guess I'm just asking how to get that list you see at https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions?uselang=de
[03:47:22] <musikanimal>	 they don't appear to be normal system messages, even. uselang=qqx doesn't show a key
[03:49:40] <legoktm>	 so I'm looking at Html::namespaceSelectorOptions()
[03:49:54] <legoktm>	 Language::getFormattedNamespaces() apparently
[03:51:18] <musikanimal>	 ah, that's a start. I see ApiQuerySiteinfo uses it https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/g/mediawiki/core/+/7462d3075a23095fd627cebeb0f66e081ad2bede/includes/api/ApiQuerySiteinfo.php#287
[03:51:41] <legoktm>	 but it uses the content language, not the user language
[03:52:02] <musikanimal>	 oh right
[03:52:39] <legoktm>	 Html::namespaceSelector() has an option called 'in-user-lang' to make it use $wgLang (user language) instead of the default content language
[03:54:18] <musikanimal>	 mkay. So not exposed through the API I take it
[03:54:33] <musikanimal>	 do you think it would make sense for meta=siteinfo&siprop=namespaces&uselang=de to show localized names? seems intuitive to me
[03:56:39] <musikanimal>	 I can create a phab, and maybe attempt to implement this myself
[03:57:38] <musikanimal>	 all I want is the localized names of the basic namespaces, everything with an ID <= 15
[04:01:18] <legoktm>	 the default uselang value is the user language, so I think it would be a bit confusing if the namespaces suddenly weren't the correct names just because the user changed their interface language
[04:01:44] <legoktm>	 a different parameter like &sinslang or something might make sense
[04:02:18] <legoktm>	 musikanimal: regardless, filing a ticket sounds like a good idea. probably a.nomie has some suggestions on how to implement it
[04:02:34] <musikanimal>	 okay! will do
[04:04:23] <musikanimal>	 in the meantime, I'm okay with just fetching the messages by i18n key, if I can figure out what they are...
[04:09:37] <legoktm>	 they're not i18n messages
[04:09:48] <legoktm>	 namespaces are still localized in PHP files :(
[04:10:41] <musikanimal>	 bummer
[04:13:58] <musikanimal>	 https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T226072 should you be interested. Thanks for the help!
[05:08:06] <Nemo_bis>	 musikanimal: localised namespaces are not a property of the wiki itself
[05:08:49] <Nemo_bis>	 there's also no way to no if a local alias is a translation (hopefully not)
[05:08:58] <Nemo_bis>	 * to know
[07:39:57] <thedj>	 and you need to be carefule with translations of namespaces, as they can invalidate existing proper ns:0 titles that happen to use the same prefix, so it's better to have them on stricter control to begin with.
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[14:02:50] <RF1dle>	 I forgot what day it was. Can't attend anyway as on holiday.
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[15:02:03] <CFisch_WMDE>	 Hello hello and welcome to the Technical Advice IRC meeting!
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[15:02:57] <CFisch_WMDE>	 We don't have any topics pre-posted on the wiki so just fire away with your questions ;-)!
[15:03:33] <Reedy>	 Why is the job queue broken in .10?
[15:03:34] * Reedy hides
[15:03:52] <CFisch_WMDE>	 :-D
[15:04:41] <Gopa>	 Hi CFisch_WMDE 
[15:04:53] <CFisch_WMDE>	 Hi Gopa!
[15:05:59] <Amir1>	 Reedy: I don't answer to your question but I think Reedy knows better
[15:06:08] <Amir1>	 *don't know
[15:08:56] <Gopa>	 yesterday  I asked inthe same group regarding this, I couldnt fixt it so I'm aksing again :)
[15:08:56] <Gopa>	 >I'm working on video cut tool, an online tool to trim videos in commons,
[15:08:57] <Gopa>	 To concede videos using ffmpeg, I'm doing in this way https://github.com/gopavasanth/video-cut-tool-back-end/blob/error/routes/index.js#L99
[15:08:57] <Gopa>	 this command works and the videos are concatenating when I try this in my separately in my console, 
[15:08:57] <Gopa>	 But If I run this file, I'm getting this error: https://ibb.co/bBzBbj2
[15:08:57] <Gopa>	 I tied to debug in several ways and tried to find some solution but couldn't, Any solution please?
[15:09:25] <andre__>	 Could you paste text as text into a text pastebin?
[15:09:41] <andre__>	 That blurry image is hard to read, plus text should be text
[15:09:41] <Gopa>	 andre__: yeah :)
[15:10:30] <andre__>	 Plus it lacks which exact command was called, I think.
[15:10:59] <Gopa>	 https://pastebin.com/W4fkHf4K
[15:11:28] <Amir1>	 it seems the bash script has syntax error
[15:11:30] <andre__>	 Gopa: That's a bash/ffmpeg question? :)
[15:11:38] <andre__>	 Have you tried replacing <( by < (
[15:11:44] <Amir1>	 that seems obvious given the error
[15:12:08] <Gopa>	 Amir1: how to fix this then ?
[15:12:11] <andre__>	 wellifyoudontseparatecommandsitshardforcomputerstorealizethatanothercommandisstarting
[15:12:27] <andre__>	 Gopa: bynotconcatenatingthingsasIalreadywrote
[15:12:30] <Reedy>	 andre__: bless you
[15:12:32] <Amir1>	 I need to see the bash file it tries to run :D
[15:13:03] <Amir1>	 oh yeah andre__ is right
[15:13:04] <andre__>	 yeah. Hard to say what's wrong in code when nobody can see the code :)
[15:13:14] <Amir1>	 'ffmpeg -f concat -safe 0 -i <(for f in ./trimmed/*.webm; do echo "file $PWD/$f"; done) -c copy ./trimmed/output.webm' } 
[15:13:21] <Amir1>	 This seems problematic
[15:13:30] <Gopa>	  https://github.com/gopavasanth/video-cut-tool-back-end/blob/error/routes/index.js#L99
[15:14:04] <andre__>	 Gopa: Have you tried replacing "<(" by "< (" and "done)" by "done )"?
[15:14:06] <Gopa>	 Amir1: yes that commmand is problem, How to correct that?
[15:14:17] <Gopa>	 andre__: yes I have tried that too :(
[15:14:19] <Amir1>	 My bash knowledge is good as a toddler's but "ffmpeg -f concat -safe 0 -i < $(for f in ./trimmed/*.webm; do echo "file $PWD/$f"; done) -c copy ./trimmed/output.webm"
[15:14:28] <andre__>	 Gopa, ah, okay
[15:14:47] <Amir1>	 you need to add a dollar sign  I think
[15:15:06] <Gopa>	 Amir1: Ooh Let me try with that  :)
[15:15:54] <Amir1>	 I don't know if "<" is also needed 
[15:16:09] <Amir1>	 try with different variants 
[15:16:27] <RF1dle>	 Unfortunately, I can't entertain you with getting oauth to work as I'm off my computer
[15:16:52] <Gopa>	 Amir1: okay, I'm trying :)
[15:20:02] <hauskatze>	 Does https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:Globalrenamequeue&action=history load for you? It keeps loading and loading for me...
[15:20:22] <paladox>	 yup, loads for me.
[15:20:38] <Amir1>	 hauskatze: loads for me too
[15:21:03] <hauskatze>	 thanks for checking - I seem to be able to get only a plain text version :)
[15:21:05] <Gopa>	 paladox: +1
[15:21:29] <hauskatze>	 Now it seems to work
[15:25:54] <Gopa>	 https://pastebin.com/xH8riGiN
[15:25:54] <Gopa>	 yeah, Thanks Amir1 
[15:25:54] <Gopa>	 I think that '$' solves that error, I'm now dived into multiple other errors,  Ahh I got this new error, 
[15:25:54] <Gopa>	 This concatination proccess is sarting earlier to trimming videos (async problem)
[15:25:54] <Gopa>	 First the video has to be trimmed and generate multiple new trimmed videos and then Concatenate into One (if the user requests).
[15:25:55] <Gopa>	  
[15:26:11] <Gopa>	 I will try to solve this :)
[15:26:57] <Amir1>	 ^_^ 
[15:33:09] <CFisch_WMDE>	 Soooo anyone else? :-)
[15:34:00] <addshore>	 CFisch_WMDE: i dont understand why my clock within firefox is 1 hour different to my OS time :/
[15:34:17] <CFisch_WMDE>	 You have a clock within FF? o.O
[15:34:36] <CFisch_WMDE>	 Why would you need that? :-D
[15:34:39] <addshore>	 well, for chat things in browser tabs / windows :) that have times in them :P
[15:35:19] <CFisch_WMDE>	 Uhhhh, that sounds weird.
[15:36:29] <addshore>	 silly technology
[15:43:27] <Gopa>	 I have followed this https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:Toolforge/Web#node.js_web_services to host  my front end of the application https://tools.wmflabs.org/video-cut-tool-front-end/ but :(
[15:43:27] <Gopa>	 This is working fine over here though https://video-cut-tool.netlify.com/
[15:44:00] <Reedy>	 https://tools.wmflabs.org/static/js/bundle.js
[15:44:13] <Reedy>	 it looks like it's missing your tool name from the prefixes its using
[15:44:17] <Reedy>	   <script src="/static/js/bundle.js"></script><script src="/static/js/0.chunk.js"></script><script src="/static/js/main.chunk.js"></script></body>
[15:44:37] <Gopa>	 yes but this works fine in netlify ?
[15:44:52] <Reedy>	 And? This isn't netlify
[15:44:52] <Gopa>	 and in my localsystem :D
[15:45:07] <Reedy>	 I think if it didn't have the leading / it'd be ok
[15:45:12] <Reedy>	 as it'd actually be relative
[15:45:18] <Reedy>	 rathe than trying to use the root
[15:46:04] <Gopa>	 https://github.com/gopavasanth/video-cut-tool-front-end/
[15:46:04] <Gopa>	 This is the code repo :)
[15:46:48] <Gopa>	 any suggestions with in repo ?
[15:47:47] <andre__>	 Gopa: What do you mean by "any suggestions with in repo?" Do you have a specific question?
[15:47:49] <Gopa>	 I know I still wrote the localhost here https://github.com/gopavasanth/video-cut-tool-front-end/blob/master/src/components/home.js#L130 but that doesnt matter for now :)
[15:48:40] <Gopa>	 andre__: I ment suggestions to fix that error told by Reedy in this repo
[15:48:56] <andre__>	 Well, where to look in that repo?
[15:49:08] <andre__>	 You don't expect someone in this room to now start reading each and every code line in your repo, do you?
[15:49:39] <Gopa>	 https://github.com/gopavasanth/video-cut-tool-front-end/blob/master/src/components/home.js
[15:49:39] <Gopa>	 This is the main file of the front-end code :)
[15:51:35] <Gopa>	 As I want to host this in toolforge, I dont have any idea to fix that issue, I tried to solve it myself from ast days, couldnt achive it, So I asked inthis group for suggestions :)
[15:51:48] <Gopa>	 *past
[15:52:45] <mszabo-wikia>	 so a question for the IRC meeting: MW has two memcached clients, a pure PHP one and another one that wraps the PECL memcached extension. Does using one of them over the other bring any advantage?
[15:54:24] <Amir1>	 mszabo-wikia: did git blame help you with anything?
[15:55:10] <Bencemac>	 hi!
[15:55:11] <mszabo-wikia>	 "Implemented a wrapper for the memcached PECL client" - https://github.com/Wikia/mediawiki/commit/3c62077fe28778eb41bde7549fbae402c8be0ef7
[15:55:27] <mszabo-wikia>	 not many details there
[15:55:30] <Bencemac>	 I would have one question
[15:55:56] <Bencemac>	 how can I import articles from Special:LintErrors?  https://hu.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speci%C3%A1lis:LintErrors
[15:56:17] <Bencemac>	 I would need them for AWB
[15:56:42] <Amir1>	 Bencemac: you can query them in quaary
[15:56:46] <Amir1>	 *quarry
[15:56:52] <CFisch_WMDE>	 mszabo-wikia: I would assume ( without knowing exactly though ) that the PECL Memcached extension is performing better and the PHP implementation is just a fallback for users that cannot install PECL extensions on their hosts.
[15:56:54] <Amir1>	 Do you know how to use quarry?
[15:57:05] <Bencemac>	 not really
[15:57:24] <Bencemac>	 but if you create me, I will be able to do it myself
[15:57:43] <Reedy>	 https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T177813
[15:57:53] <mszabo-wikia>	 yeah that is a reasonable guess, but I was wondering in case there was some extra context
[15:58:02] <Reedy>	 Just needs a simple listprovider making
[15:58:29] <Bencemac>	 would be very useful
[15:59:14] <Reedy>	 I also need to make a long overdue release :)
[15:59:48] <Bencemac>	 new AWB version? :)
[16:00:37] <Amir1>	 Bencemac: so for the quarry https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Research:Quarry this is the help
[16:01:42] <Amir1>	 for writing the proper query, you can take a look at https://github.com/wikimedia/mediawiki-extensions-Linter/blob/master/sql/linter.sql
[16:02:00] <Amir1>	 you can also just the API: https://www.mediawiki.org/w/api.php?action=query&list=linterrors&lntcategories=obsolete-tag
[16:02:39] <Reedy>	 ^
[16:02:53] <Reedy>	 that and a simple find and replace to strip the bloat might work
[16:05:44] <Bencemac>	 well, it will not be easy
[16:06:50] <Reedy>	 https://www.mediawiki.org/w/api.php?action=query&list=linterrors&lntcategories=obsolete-tag&format=xml
[16:07:06] <Reedy>	 title="Extension:SphinxSearch/Windows install"
[16:07:19] <Reedy>	 You only need to match between the title quotes...
[16:07:40] <tgr>	 API + curl + jq makes a super simple client
[16:07:58] <tgr>	 curl -s 'https://www.mediawiki.org/w/api.php?format=json&action=query&list=linterrors&lntcategories=obsolete-tag' | jq --raw-output '.query.linterrors[].title'
[16:09:16] <tgr>	 dealing with continuation is a little harder but still doable
[16:10:52] <Reedy>	 tgr: that's what limit=max is for ;)
[16:11:20] <Reedy>	 and potentially minimising properties if you can
[16:17:12] <kaartic>	 Hi. Sorry for the late entry. Is the technical advice IRC meeting still in progress?
[16:18:17] <CFisch_WMDE>	 kaartic: Technical speaking, no, but please go ahead :-)
[16:18:40] * CFisch_WMDE has to leave not but I'm quite confident someone will help
[16:22:28] <kaartic>	 Recently we were wondering if it was possible to somehow get a list of the Wikimedia Commons campaigns that are in progress currently?
[16:22:48] <kaartic>	 Anybody knows about any sources which might be related to this?
[16:28:29] <kaartic>	 For some background, this is for a feature of the Wikimedia Commons android app which shows campaigns which are currently in progress. As of now, this is implemented by manually maintaining a repository of the list of Wikimedia Commons campaigns.
[16:29:40] <Reedy>	 I imagine an API module probably needs writing for the Campaigns extension and/or EventLogging
[16:34:39] <kaartic>	 what's the campaigns extension? is it something that exists?
[16:35:23] <Reedy>	 https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Campaigns
[16:37:50] <legoktm>	 Reedy: wrong campaigns, these are UploadWizard Campaigns :|
[16:38:16] <legoktm>	 https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:UploadWizard/Campaigns
[16:38:40] <Reedy>	 {{disambiguation}}
[16:38:47] <legoktm>	 https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Campaigns !!
[16:38:58] <marktraceur>	 https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/api.php?action=help&modules=query%2Ballcampaigns exists - you'd presumably have to filter it yourself at the moment
[16:39:18] <marktraceur>	 (that UploadWizard stalkword continues to be useful)
[16:39:21] <Reedy>	 kaartic: There is https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/api.php?action=help&modules=query%2Ballcampaigns
[16:39:30] <marktraceur>	 Reedy: Jinx!
[16:39:40] <Reedy>	 https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/api.php?action=query&list=allcampaigns&uwcenabledonly=
[16:39:41] <Reedy>	 Yeah...
[16:39:52] <Reedy>	 So maybe requesting a non ALL version of that could work
[16:40:09] <Reedy>	 I can't imagine that's a small download to keep doing on mobile devices and be nice about it
[16:40:44] <Reedy>	 151KB atm
[16:40:49] <Reedy>	 151KB just for enabled
[16:41:02] <Reedy>	 without a continue
[16:41:10] <marktraceur>	 Probably don't need to update it more than once a day, but yeah, not great
[16:41:55] <Reedy>	 kaartic: File a task to request a list=campaigns rather than list=allcampaigns
[16:43:15] <Reedy>	 This is a fairly common request for stuff like this
[16:43:19] <Reedy>	 we have list=pages and list=allpages
[16:43:20] <Reedy>	 etc
[17:07:22] <kaartic>	 Reedy: marktraceur: legoktm: Thanks a lot for the information. will look into it and come back with doubts if any. Thanks a lot.
[17:08:33] <kaartic>	 Got to go for now. Bye :-)
[17:21:42] <snitch>	 [[Tech]]; Þjarkur; /* Do Wikimedia sites have sitemaps? */; https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?diff=19160552&oldid=19159674&rcid=13728497
[17:25:12] <snitch>	 [[Tech]]; Legoktm; /* Do Wikimedia sites have sitemaps? */ phab link; https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?diff=19160557&oldid=19160552&rcid=13728502
[18:59:01] <Kozuch>	 Hi, I have problems with Template:Maplink. can anyone tell why the first map here renders (Interstate 2) but the second one (Vltava river) does not? Demo is here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Kozuch/Sandbox3
[20:27:32] <Der_Keks>	 On serval wikiprojects the sites doesn't stop to load. Some objects are missing. Is there an overload?
[20:39:33] <ToBeFree>	 oh, I thought that's my connection
[20:41:02] <ToBeFree>	 happens in incognito mode too, with revision histories with custom number of entries per page also take ages to load
[20:41:08] <ToBeFree>	 everything else is cached, I guess
[20:41:20] <ToBeFree>	 I can't provide a link, that would be cached again
[20:43:20] <ToBeFree>	 can't reproduce it anymore. Happened occassionally in the last few hours
[20:44:22] <ToBeFree>	 I've had the revision history being loaded in visible, small chunks onto the screen, like 5 edits per chunk
[21:09:48] <andre__>	 Der_Keks, ToBeFree: Are you in Europe?
[21:09:55] * ToBeFree nods
[21:10:00] <ToBeFree>	 Wuppertal, NRW, Germany
[21:10:11] <ToBeFree>	 Der Keks is likely judging by their name
[21:10:14] <ToBeFree>	 ^ 
[21:10:15] <ToBeFree>	 ^^*
[21:10:29] <andre__>	 Thanks. Might be https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T226048 - please no "me too" comments, but see the comments how to provide info
[21:10:31] <Reedy>	 They speak German in other places ;)
[21:11:10] <andre__>	 Reedy: outside of Europe? Namibia? :)
[21:11:25] * ToBeFree gave a me-too-thumbsup-token
[21:14:42] <AntiComposite>	 I wonder if this is related to wikiblame not working...
[21:14:53] <Der_Keks>	 andre__, yeah
[21:15:14] <Der_Keks>	 ah thanks :)
[21:19:51] <andre__>	 AntiComposite: why should it?
[21:20:19] <AntiComposite>	 I thought about it more after saying that and decided it was unlikely
[21:21:01] <andre__>	 AntiComposite: Where is it reported that Wikiblame is not working? Any link?
[21:21:15] <AntiComposite>	 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(technical)#Is_Wikiblame_broken%3F https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benutzer_Diskussion:Flominator/WikiBlame#WIkiblame_down?
[21:22:13] <andre__>	 AntiComposite: Ah thanks. I know I saw a report somewhere but could not find it again... Meh that's stuff on some external website hence way harder to analyze
[21:22:42] <andre__>	 such stuff should be on toolforge imo :-/
[22:48:47] <jeblad>	 Some people {citation needed} says Wikipedia is sluggish. Any problems after the hw update?
[22:53:10] <paladox>	 hmm, i also experenced that a minute ago, now it's faster.
[23:07:09] <Reedy>	 jeblad: what hw?
[23:07:50] <paladox>	 Slow again.
[23:09:31] <jeblad>	 "You will be able to read but not to edit Wikimedia Commons for 30 minutes on 19 June at 05:00 (UTC). This is to fix a hardware problem."
[23:10:43] <ToBeFree>	 23:10:29 <andre__> Thanks. Might be https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T226048 - please no "me too" comments, but see the comments how to provide info
[23:13:18] <jeblad>	 Actually, sometimes it does not load at all.
[23:13:56] <bd808>	 jeblad: an article page or something like your watchlist?