[08:16:01] <xover>	 Anybody happen to know whether CSS referenced via Extension:TemplateStyles counts towards MW's post-expand include size limit?
[08:18:11] <xover>	 i.e. in a complex wiki page with lots of template transclusions, each of which spit out lots of HTML and inline CSS ...
[08:19:15] <xover>	 ... would splitting the CSS out into a  separate TemplateStyles .css be a viable way to get the page back down under the transclusion limit?
[09:04:58] <yurb>	 Did the SSH host key for login.tools.wmflabs.org recently change?
[09:11:26] <RhinosF1>	 yurb, looks like it's down
[09:11:51] <RhinosF1>	 I get ERR_FAILED on chrome
[10:09:37] <p858snake>	 yurb: #wikimedia-cloud is probably the better channel for your question
[10:10:26] <p858snake>	 RhinosF1: thats for logging in via ssh
[13:36:45] <snitch>	 [[Tech]]; 無聊龍; /* Webfonts */ new section; https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?diff=18980672&oldid=18965682&rcid=13383691
[14:19:46] <snitch>	 [[Tech]]; Reedy; /* Webfonts */ no to google fonts; https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?diff=18980711&oldid=18980672&rcid=13383780
[17:02:50] <RhinosF1>	 tools.wmflanbs and Xtools are on a go slow.
[17:06:07] <RhinosF1>	 Xtools timing Out on chrome
[17:13:36] <RhinosF1>	 Now getting error 500 - timeout
[17:21:39] <Urbanecm>	 Hi, https://translatewiki.net/w/i.php?title=Special:SearchTranslations&match=all&query=stop+wathing+this&language=cs&filter=translated says [e9a37fc15611421995246025] 2019-03-31 17:21:21: Fatal exception of type "Error"
[17:21:39] <Urbanecm>	 . 
[17:21:43] <Urbanecm>	 anybody knows a reason?
[17:22:07] * bawolff looks it up
[17:22:57] <bawolff>	 oh wait, that's translatewiki
[17:23:31] <bawolff>	 I umm can't look up the exception, but I imagine niklas or someone from translatewiki staff could
[17:23:32] <RhinosF1>	 Got an answer in -xtools (posted there a bit later) - RepLag is also high though.
[17:23:52] <Krenair>	 https://tools.wmflabs.org/replag/
[17:24:00] <Krenair>	 looks like a fair bit of replag on the web DBs
[17:24:39] <Urbanecm>	 ah, sorry
[17:24:43] <Urbanecm>	 let me try to reproduce it on WMF wiki bawolff 
[17:25:33] <Urbanecm>	 https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:SearchTranslations&match=all&query=stop+wathing+this&language=cs&filter=translated
[17:25:36] <Urbanecm>	 the same thing on WMF wiki bawolff 
[17:25:47] <Krenair>	 XKD4EwpAAD0AAHUEhW8AAABY
[17:25:52] <Urbanecm>	 sounds more clear, but not enough for me to look for a task
[17:26:36] <bawolff>	 	[XKD4EwpAAD0AAHUEhW8AAABY] /w/index.php?title=Special:SearchTranslations&match=all&query=stop+wathing+this&language=cs&filter=translated   Error from line 757 of /srv/mediawiki/php-1.33.0-wmf.23/extensions/Translate/ttmserver/ElasticSearchTTMServer.php: Call to a member function getAggregations() on null
[17:29:31] <bawolff>	 Is there a bug report for this yet?
[17:29:51] <Urbanecm>	 Can't find it
[17:29:57] <Urbanecm>	 https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/maniphest/query/tV0na1LkKmH6/#R doesn't say anything
[17:37:36] <Urbanecm>	 Created T219736
[17:37:36] <stashbot>	 T219736: /ttmserver/ElasticSearchTTMServer.php: Call to a member function getAggregations() on null - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T219736
[20:16:21] <bawolff>	 huh, https://sonarcloud.io/dashboard?id=mediawiki-core is kind of cool
[20:31:29] <apergos>	 bawolff: swap you for this: https://www.devuan.org/pwned.html
[20:31:30] <snitch>	 [[Tech]]; Ransei2; added [[Category:Tech]] using [[Help:Gadget-HotCat|HotCat]]; https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?diff=18981240&oldid=18980711&rcid=13385121
[20:32:21] <bawolff>	 lol, wow
[20:32:36] <p858snake>	 apergos: wikipedia via gopher, embrace the future
[20:32:47] <apergos>	 I'm so ready for it
[20:33:08] <apergos>	 firefox has so much bloat any more. and ad blocking would be a lot easier too
[20:33:14] <bawolff>	 I feel like Amgine should be in this convo
[20:33:26] <apergos>	 :-D
[20:33:26] <bawolff>	 apergos: And they removed gopher support!
[20:33:37] <apergos>	 outrageous!!
[20:41:24] <hauskatze>	 any idea what T219738 might be?
[20:41:25] <stashbot>	 T219738: PHP Warning: Array key should be either a string or an integer - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T219738
[20:42:26] <bawolff>	 An array key that is neither a string nor an integer :P
[20:42:40] <bawolff>	 Often happens when people accidentally put Message objects in the wrong place
[20:43:01] <hauskatze>	 [22:42:27] <bawolff> An array key that is neither a string nor an integer :P <-- bravo, let me promote you to CTO :P
[20:44:05] <hauskatze>	 several things are also mentioned in the trace
[20:44:09] <hauskatze>	 eventbus, jobqueue
[20:44:18] <hauskatze>	 so I'm not sure what's going on
[20:44:36] <hauskatze>	 tens of thousands of spam this week though
[20:44:51] <bawolff>	 Looks like someone called WikiMap::getWiki( true ) or WikiMap::getWiki( false ); where you're supposed to call it with name of site
[20:45:04] <bawolff>	 probably somewhere is taking false to mean current site, but other places are not
[20:46:15] <bawolff>	 wtf, getDomain() takes a bool and is being passed a string, that's like the reverse problem
[20:46:43] <bawolff>	 well "EventFactory.php" line 46 looks wrong
[20:47:15] <bawolff>	 i suspect related to 4f72d439
[20:53:24] <hauskatze>	 bawolff: aha, that revid is also mentioned at T219737
[20:53:24] <stashbot>	 T219737: Ability to create blocks broken - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T219737
[20:58:39] <Nemo_bis>	 bawolff: only 3 new bugs in 30 days? can't be right :) 
[21:59:53] <hauskatze>	 could I haave some help/guidance with https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/mediawiki/extensions/SpellingDictionary/+/500364/ ? thanks cc xSavitar ?
[22:00:03] <hauskatze>	 s/haave/have/
[22:25:42] <xSavitar>	 hauskatze: Looking now!
[22:26:29] <hauskatze>	 xSavitar: thanks
[22:26:41] <hauskatze>	 heading to bed now though
[22:26:59] <xSavitar>	 :D
[22:27:27] <xSavitar>	 hauskatze: SpecialPage::getTitle was deprecated
[22:27:34] <hauskatze>	 sure
[22:27:41] <xSavitar>	 since 1.23
[22:27:51] <xSavitar>	 So the use of getPageTitle there is legit, thanks
[22:28:13] <hauskatze>	 I read about either use SpecialPage:get*Page*Title or 'use Mediawiki\MediaWikiServices' and some weird stuff
[22:29:23] <hauskatze>	 xSavitar: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:LinkRenderer.php <-- that
[22:29:28] <hauskatze>	 but I'm not sure how to
[22:30:00] <xSavitar>	 Looking now...
[22:30:02] <hauskatze>	 if getPageTitle is okay and works, then better :)
[22:31:00] <xSavitar>	 That one is fine
[22:31:07] <xSavitar>	 The other one is about Linker::link()
[22:31:13] <xSavitar>	 That has been deprecated too
[22:31:18] <xSavitar>	 since 1.28
[22:31:31] <xSavitar>	 So you can use LinkRenderer instead
[22:32:07] <xSavitar>	 hauskatze: ^
[22:32:18] <xSavitar>	 I think you can do that in another patch
[22:32:40] <xSavitar>	 Since the current patch covers what has been done already
[22:32:45] <hauskatze>	 If I figure out how to ;)
[22:33:33] <xSavitar>	 For now, you can leave the current patch as-is. It's really nice
[22:33:43] <hauskatze>	 Right
[22:33:44] <xSavitar>	 Now to the other part, let me share with you what I've got
[22:34:29] <hauskatze>	 xSavitar: re sharing - if you'd like to, please post on the gerrit change or in a ticket since I have to go :(
[22:34:39] <xSavitar>	 Sure, I'll do that!
[22:34:46] <xSavitar>	 Thanks, have a great evening
[22:34:52] <hauskatze>	 thanks and sorry for the annoyance
[22:35:03] <xSavitar>	 No no no, it's all fine Marco :)
[22:35:10] <xSavitar>	 sleep well! :)
[22:35:26] <hauskatze>	 I'll try
[22:35:30] <hauskatze>	 :)
[22:35:33] <hauskatze>	 bye
[22:35:38] <xSavitar>	 o/