[00:02:39] looks like our time together here is over! thanks everyone for participating, and remember you can always ask questions at #wikimedia-tech (although outside of Tech Advice meetings you might need to wait longer for an answer) [00:03:06] you can also ask questions at https://discourse-mediawiki.wmflabs.org/ [00:59:10] hi! in the source editor (non-visual one, 2010 I think), is there a script which surrounds the text with quotation marks in the case it is a paste? [01:23:02] I wrote http://dpaste.com/2CGHSAR.txt, but it does not prevent the paste [01:25:50] it is meant to surround any pasted text with quotation marks in the 2010 wikitext editor, and it seems to work, but i have difficulty figuring out how to prevent the paste itself from occuring (it pastes twice). can be tested by copy/pasting the code into the browser console when the 2010 wikitext editor is open on a page -and then by pasting a word into it. [05:41:44] Hi I am ashish and want to contribute to Wikimedia through open source . I have interest in php, html/css,js and node.js . Please can any one guide me how to start . [05:42:44] hi ashish0910 [05:42:55] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/How_to_become_a_MediaWiki_hacker [05:52:20] ashish0910: btw, we currently have a content going on for people currently in high school. I don't know if you fit in that demographic or not, but if you do, see https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Google_Code-in [05:56:52] Thanks , I am B.Tech student in CSE . [10:36:54] Hi, to anyone with logstash access: I was reported fatal error with id "[W@PVRwpAAEYAABwIdf8AAABG]" appeared on https://cs.wiktionary.org/w/index.php?title=Kategorie:Obsahuje_%E9%87%8E_%C4%8Dten%C3%A9_jako_%E3%81%AC&action=edit&redlink=1 . I was able to create the page, through. Does this represent a known bug? [10:41:47] [W@PVRwpAAEYAABwIdf8AAABG] /w/index.php?title=Kategorie:Obsahuje_%E9%87%8E_4%8Dten3%A9_jako_%E3%81%AC&action=edit&redlink=1 UnexpectedValueException from line 106 of /srv/mediawiki/php-1.33.0-wmf.3/extensions/TwoColConflict/includes/SplitTwoColConflict/SplitTwoColConflictHelper.php: The title "Kategorie:Obsahuje 野 čtené jako ぬ" does not refer to an existing page [10:42:13] huh, that is weirdly coloured for me... [10:42:44] yea, all the % make colors ;) [10:42:48] Urbanecm: --^ [10:43:06] This raises the question why TwoColConflict is invoked during page creation [10:43:22] perhaps the page was created twice, by conflicting edits? [10:43:36] or the page creation was submitted twice, and the sef-conflict wasn't handled right? [10:43:58] I thought it needed some sort of ascii escape to make colours. 0x03 or something [10:44:19] I don't know, but I think that error is showing up in the logs quite a bit [10:44:19] My guess is that TwoColConflict tried to load from a replica, but the page creation hadn't replicated yet. [10:44:55] https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T205942 [10:44:58] Urbanecm: --^ [10:45:47] bawolff: the fix is marked for swat, but jenkins sais no [10:45:48] https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/c/mediawiki/extensions/TwoColConflict/+/472175 [10:46:27] With a frowny face emoiji and everything [10:46:32] *emoticon [10:49:33] logstash seems to very clearly indicate that this problem is new in 1.33wmf3 [10:50:28] Well looks like its being temp disabled (from #wikimedia-operations) [10:51:00] Also as an aside, its really kind of silly we can't let trusted users like Urbanecm look up stacktraces [10:51:47] bawolff: the stacktrace isn't the problem I think. The problem is that the error log may contain private info such as IP addresses, session tokens, email addresses, etc [10:52:33] yeah, but it'd be nice if there was a form or something where people could put in an id number and get back the stack trace if they happen to be trusted [10:53:09] if we could effectively prevent that, we could probably allow trusted users to see the logs [10:53:23] but if we can't, this needs an NDA [10:54:26] logstash has a lot of sensitive info in it, it'd be nice if we could give access to stack traces without the whole thing. Or at least give access to user's own stack traces [10:55:19] oh, you mean directly on the error page on the wiki? [10:55:22] yea, that makes sense [10:56:12] Some people appearently don't want to do that for everyone though, for various reasons (I think fear of drive by attackers who recognize common vulnerabilities) [10:56:45] Although we do do this on test.wikipedia.org, which is kind of defeating the point, since testwiki is just as much production as any other wiki [11:00:39] bawolff: i think the stacktraces used to actually contain pii, which is why got disabled in the first place [11:00:51] p858snake: That's correct [11:01:03] But that's been fixed for a very long time now [11:01:50] The official position is we're not going to publicly display stack traces to everyone [11:02:02] But it seems like we could give it to at least a larger group of people [11:49:00] [[Tech]]; Hugo.arg; [none]; https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?diff=18574657&oldid=18573887&rcid=12709409 [16:14:50] Hello - I have a basic technical query about the Wikipedia mobile apps (ie how to change the interface language) - what would be the best channel to ask this? [16:16:59] maybe #wikimedia-mobile ? [16:18:06] Will try. Thanks [16:18:31] does look pretty quiet in there though [20:56:48] [[Tech]]; Ruslik0; /* Restore old edit buttons bar */; https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?diff=18576867&oldid=18574657&rcid=12712870 [20:57:05] [[Tech]]; Ruslik0; /* Restore old edit buttons bar */ interwiki; https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?diff=18576868&oldid=18576867&rcid=12712875