[13:28:35] Do you have news about this task : https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T191452 ? [13:33:45] It can probably go ahead now [13:45:36] You mean that TemplateStyles will be deployed in a short time ? [13:46:19] It can be, not sure if it will [13:46:27] Needs someone to get it into swat etc [13:46:44] What is Swat ? [14:04:37] Niridya: https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/SWAT_deploys [14:15:37] So, Swat is a team of MediaWiki developers and we can contact them to submit idead or bug ? [14:23:36] Niridya: Posting a polite question on the task is normally the best way to get answers about a task. [14:24:52] Deskana you don't think my question was polite ? (it's possiby because I rarely speak in english) O:3 O:3 [14:25:21] Niridya: Oh, no, not at all! Your question was polite. :-) [14:25:57] Oh, you sais a question "on the task", you mean on Phabricator ? [14:26:40] Technical Advice IRC meeting starting in 30 minutes in channel #wikimedia-tech, hosts: @addshore & @amir1 - all questions welcome, more infos: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Technical_Advice_IRC_Meeting [14:27:19] Oh ! I will be able to ask my questions to the developers in IRC meeting ;) [14:27:37] =] [14:27:45] ;) [15:01:04] Hi hi Amir1 [15:01:11] It's time! [15:01:33] Hello, Welcome to Technical advice IRC meeting, me and addshore are your host today and wish you a pleasant flight [15:01:42] Wheee [15:02:45] flight? can i have some tomatoe juice, then? [15:03:19] Hi ! Do you have news about this task : https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T191452 ? [15:03:29] DanielK_WMDE_: sorry, strictly a no totamoe juice flight, but we do have tomato juice! [15:03:33] DanielK_WMDE_: 15 eurors, If you are member of "I broke Wikipedia" club, you get discount [15:03:50] Niridya: checking [15:04:17] :P [15:04:57] Niridya: looking at the ticket it looks like it is still blocked [15:05:03] You made a very good job for Global preferences ! That's very useful ! [15:05:19] Niridya: The Remex is now enabled everywhere. It's unblocked since the last week [15:05:20] addshore and do you know why is it blocked ?! [15:05:36] addshore: Remex is deployed everywhere now [15:05:56] Thank you too for Remex, but the task is about TemplateStyle ;) [15:06:10] not seeking for an advice but thanks (never enough to repeat) to those who made GlobalPreferences possible [15:06:25] you guys saved my hours setting prefs on every wikis [15:06:50] Niridya: Deploying TemplateStyles is (was) blocked on deploying a new system for parsing called Remex [15:06:59] the blocker is gone now [15:07:27] [14:33:19] It can probably go ahead now [15:07:27] ;) [15:07:34] Amir1 Okey, thank you for your answer ! ;) [15:07:35] And why is the HTML error pag still called LintErrors, why don't you switch to RemexErrors ? [15:08:14] revi: Yeah, It was a great work made by Community Tech including (but not limited to) Niharika, musikanimal, samwilson [15:08:36] and several others I can't rememebr [15:08:45] * revi sends love via the network [15:09:04] Niridya: LintErrors is more broad than just ones related to the tidy/remex deployment [15:09:10] Niridya: The old parser library was called Tidy, The lint errors are more general [15:09:33] Okey, and what means "Lint" ? [15:09:58] basically only the high-priority ones are related to Tidy->Remex migration [15:10:06] Niridya: https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/lint#Verb [15:10:13] https://fr.wiktionary.org/wiki/lint [15:10:48] Oh ! Thank you a lot ! [15:10:52] Niridya: In Persian, we translated it "hidden syntax issues" which is not very correct but close [15:11:20] morning legoktm :) [15:11:23] I think I never gond to Persian Wikipédia ;( ;( [15:11:44] morning addshore :) [15:11:52] A very few people did :D [15:11:55] I got an idea : it would be very useful to protect descriptions on Flow pages [15:12:45] Niridya: There is an ticket already for that: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T113902 [15:13:10] It hopefully will be picked up in foreseeable future [15:14:09] Flow is somewhat messed extension [15:14:14] from admin perspective :P [15:19:34] On the front page of Wikipedia https://www.wikipedia.org/ there is a list of Wikipedias by number of articles. But between the number and the word "articles", there are 3 spaces [15:19:57] And it is not typographically correct :b :b [15:20:26] Numbers are hard [15:20:41] Should it be 1,000,000? Should it be 1.000.000? Should it be something else? [15:21:19] Reedy: wikidata can do all of that for you ;) [15:21:28] I don't need it doing for me [15:21:33] MW can format numbers [15:22:29] My problem is not about numbers : there is "1 000 000+ articles [15:26:43] Is > are? [15:26:56] Niridya: you can bring this issue up to the discovery team who are responsible for maintaining it, there might be some good explanation. [15:27:29] Amir1 You have a link to contact them ? [15:27:51] The best approach is to make a phabricator ticket and add them [15:27:54] The portals should really go back to some reliable technology which knows how to do its thing. [15:28:21] Okey,I willdo this !Thank you ! ;) [15:28:56] Niridya: make sure you add Jan Drewniak there, he knows the best about this [15:29:11] Nemo_bis: Nice joke! [15:30:13] A MediaWiki page containing HTML which was then pulled by an old unmaintained PHP script and dumped into a web page is not "reliable technology". [15:31:49] Deskana: that's how they work? >.> [15:32:11] That was how it used to work [15:35:41] 25 mins left! [15:36:11] addshore: Yep: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Www.wikipedia.org_template [15:36:29] Why haven't we deleted them? [15:37:13] I created this task : https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T199337 [15:46:16] quick Q: Is it possible to see how many users signed up to the wiki during given timeframe? [15:46:35] (no SUL autocreate) [15:46:50] Vaguely [15:46:56] Vaguely [15:47:05] without autocreate is harder as you're going to have to join on the logging table or something I guess [15:47:23] hmm [15:47:35] I think we have some community tool to calculate template transclusion [15:47:48] Reedy: perhaps the mediwiki_history data set in Hadoop has the answer? [15:47:58] God knows [15:48:18] Since kowiki puts welcome template to local signup'ed user's talk page, I think I may be able to get estimate of new registration via template transclusion numbers [15:48:29] not sure if this would be an acceptable strategy? [15:49:02] Do you need the data programmatically? [15:49:16] well no, I just need some sort of average [15:49:26] and just once [15:49:32] https://stats.wikimedia.org/v2/ has some numbers [15:49:58] https://stats.wikimedia.org/v2/#/ko.wikipedia.org/contributing/new-registered-users/normal|bar|2-Year~2016060100~2018071100|~total [15:50:10] have no idea if that includes autocreate or not [15:50:24] Just click the link https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Research:Newly_registered_user [15:51:44] wonderful, thanks Nemo_bis [15:52:37] 8 mins remaining!!! [15:52:54] And then per the rules of the IRC help hour we will cease being useful! [15:56:11] * Amir1 grabs the vodka [15:58:44] 2..... [15:59:17] 1... [16:00:29] Okay, The meeting has officially ended now [16:00:45] Dun dun dun, or should I say done done done [16:00:47] live from cape town next week? [16:00:52] See y'all next week :) [16:00:56] Feel free to reach to us via email later [16:01:05] @legoktm: yes live from cape town and Berlin next week! [16:01:09] not me, so you later in other events :) [16:01:18] Amir1: :( [16:01:35] Hugs [16:02:04] legoktm: will you be there? [16:02:20] yes! [16:02:31] I told you that...yesterday :p [16:02:37] (: [16:06:36] Thank you Amir1 and addshore! [19:08:44] I regularly come across "You ("[IP]") are issuing too many requests too quickly." on Phabricator if I open some tasks from search in new tab. Can anyone please say how long does this restriction last? [19:09:17] try doing one at a time, and it's going to be a little while before people can work out a better approach [19:09:24] sorry about that [19:11:16] it should come back after a minute i think/ [19:11:23] I forget that it happens before it happens, unfortunately :-) Thanks.