[13:04:57] <ShakespeareFan00>	 Hi
[13:23:08] <DanielK_WMDE>	 WMDE is effectively locked out of phabricator.
[13:23:11] <DanielK_WMDE>	 anyone around to fix that?
[13:30:13] <andre__>	 DanielK_WMDE: maybe twentyafterfour once he is around
[13:30:24] <andre__>	 see https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T198612
[13:32:52] <DanielK_WMDE>	 andre__: i gave it a goat toaken, maybe it helps
[15:04:50] <twentyafterfour>	 DanielK_WMDE: still locked out?
[15:09:13] <DanielK_WMDE>	 twentyafterfour: didn't see an error lately. but I suppose it just depends on the rate of phab activity from the wmde office
[15:24:10] <twentyafterfour>	 DanielK_WMDE: you should be exempt now 
[15:24:54] <DanielK_WMDE>	 twentyafterfour: thank you!
[15:25:51] <DanielK_WMDE>	 twentyafterfour: uh, just to be sure: me personally, or wmde's ip?
[15:33:37] <twentyafterfour>	 DanielK_WMDE: wmde's ip 
[15:33:47] <andre__>	 Thank you
[19:00:30] <framawiki>	 Hello ! feedback wanted: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T198646
[22:51:43] <alice_rabbit>	 Is this the right place to ask questions about PAWS?
[22:52:41] <chicocvenancio>	 alice_rabbit: not the best, but I can respond here. Ideal would be #wikimedia-cloud
[22:52:43] <AntiComposite>	 Ask, and we’ll try to help 
[22:54:25] <alice_rabbit>	 What information in PAWS is public? If I'm in the terminal and enter a command there is it public? And what can I use it for, would it be okay to use it to run a bot for custom mediawiki wiki's?
[22:55:24] <alice_rabbit>	 The mediawiki stuff is so big. It's easier to file my taxes than to understand all of the mediawiki stuff.
[22:55:46] <alice_rabbit>	 Or is it wikimedia, I don't even know anymore.
[22:55:46] <chicocvenancio>	 alice_rabbit: assume everything in the PAWS filesystem is public
[22:56:06] <alice_rabbit>	 Okay, but if I open a new terminal and run commands there?
[22:56:26] <alice_rabbit>	 'cause if that is public, how would I run stuff that requires passwords?
[22:58:14] <chicocvenancio>	 alice_rabbit: the terminal commands are not easily acessible, but they are not "secret" either
[22:59:00] <alice_rabbit>	 So is there any way to run anything that requires passwords in PAWS?
[22:59:44] <chicocvenancio>	 some trusted users have access to everything in PAWS, myself included
[23:01:49] <chicocvenancio>	 at minimum, make sure any files were the passwords may be are correctly permissioned
[23:02:04] <alice_rabbit>	 Ah, I see.
[23:02:11] <chicocvenancio>	 but I wouldn't place any sensitive passwords in it at all
[23:02:29] <alice_rabbit>	 Hmm, okay. 
[23:03:50] <chicocvenancio>	  on the question if it's ok to run a bot for a custom mediawiki, it depends. We are under the same rules in PAWS as the rest of Cloud Services https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikitech:Cloud_Services_Terms_of_use
[23:05:29] <chicocvenancio>	 so, anything that somehow is related to the Wikimedia Movement is ok, be it edits in a project wiki or a private project for analytics. 
[23:05:46] <alice_rabbit>	 I see.
[23:05:55] <alice_rabbit>	 Thank you!
[23:06:03] <chicocvenancio>	 you're welcome
[23:06:24] <alice_rabbit>	 I don't think it will suit my needs in that case but I do like the possibility of it.
[23:06:33] <alice_rabbit>	 Like, it's a nice initiative.
[23:07:25] <alice_rabbit>	 If I make anything that would be useful for all wiki's I'll probably use it.
[23:07:58] <alice_rabbit>	 I tried to use AutoWikiBrowser for my custom wiki but it didn't work.
[23:18:27] <alice_rabbit>	 When I try to add my custom wiki to autowikibrowser it gives me this error: http://i.xomf.com/rpwdd.png I will post the url I used if that's okay?
[23:18:53] <alice_rabbit>	 Not sure if it would count as advertising and I don't feel like getting banned.
[23:37:09] <chicocvenancio>	 alice_rabbit: the url here is fine, but I'm sorry I can't help you with AutoWikiBrowser 
[23:37:35] <alice_rabbit>	 https://dofgaming.us/w/ is the url I used.
[23:37:59] <alice_rabbit>	 I hope someone can. If not, too bad.