[07:52:27] Hello all, I'm looking at T192455. I'm thinking about possible needs of formal sign-off from somebody (don't know who), if T186570 can be just reverted... [07:52:27] T192455: Permanently implement autoconfirmed-account-requirement for new article creation on en.wiki - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T192455 [07:52:27] T186570: ACTRIAL: Disable on March 14th - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T186570 [07:52:52] MaxSem, maybe you can help :) [14:51:18] Technical Advice IRC meeting starting in 10 minutes in channel #wikimedia-tech, hosts: @CFisch_WMDE & @chiborg - all questions welcome, more infos: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Technical_Advice_IRC_Meeting [14:59:55] Urbanecm: Feel free to create revert patches and we can review them and ask internally. [15:02:47] \o/ [15:03:21] Welcome to todays Technical Advice IRC Meeting! [15:04:18] Today with chiborg and me! [15:05:24] No questions pre-posted on our wiki site this time [15:05:36] Let's hope the Gods of Netsplit dont' kick me again ... [15:05:58] :-) [15:07:26] It's my first time being here, so please be gentle with me. :) Can I ask your help? [15:07:42] Bencemac: Sure, that's why we are here! [15:08:31] And just go for it, there is nothing you can do wrong :-) [15:09:12] I'd like to ask help about T183804. The main problem is that it causes citations errors on my home wiki (huWiki), however we cannot solve it. https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T183804 [15:09:13] T183804: Citations from Wikidata generate errors on huWiki: "Invalid tag; name defined multiple times with different content" - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T183804 [15:09:34] Oh, I see we have a clever bot as well. :) [15:09:41] hehe [15:10:42] * CFisch_WMDE reads [15:16:35] Bencemac: hmm it seems there is already some movement on the ticket [15:17:16] I am no LUA or Wikidata expert [15:17:41] Yes, but I'm not enough experienced to try the last idea. I don't want to break something. [15:17:47] have you tried the fixes suggested? [15:18:30] Hmm :-) [15:18:40] Wait a minute... [15:19:50] In the past days, caused many problems. Could it be the problem like here? https://hu.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Sablon:Port%C3%A1l&diff=19869435 [15:20:49] We fixed the problem with replacing to (space). [15:22:11] hmmm [15:23:19] So in https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T183804#4148074 that is mentioned [15:23:43] I am not aware what that symbol should be or do [15:23:43] Yes. [15:24:34] In theory, it should be a simple space ( ). [15:24:39] yeah [15:24:58] So can you just replace it? [15:25:01] is a space, which is probably needed in templates to discern between a space that should be printed and space that makes the template more readable. [15:26:18] I am able to, or alternatively put inside the nowiki tag. [15:29:23] : would be the same as the wanted outcome (: ). [15:30:00] True ... you could try that... [15:30:06] Okay. [15:31:04] Since https://hu.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sablon:Cite_web is probably widely used, my approach would be to copy it on a user subpage, clone the offending page https://hu.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Lilli_Hornig&action=submit into another user subpage, replace the references to {{Cite web}} with your template clone. then you have a safe playground where you can try out changes. [15:31:48] Bencemac: ^ [15:31:54] Good point chiborg [15:32:42] We have a testpage for it: https://hu.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sablon:Sablonhomokoz%C3%B3 [15:32:49] I'll do it there [15:36:21] Ups, there is a little problem. I've copied the template, but the citation comes from Wikidata. [15:36:44] So I cannot just replace the template's name. [15:37:06] ^^' [15:38:55] We use 'cite web' for every citations from Wikidata. [15:38:57] So I could imagine that a small change like that is quite safe. [15:40:47] I hope. At least I can revert immediately if something is wrong. [15:40:52] yep [15:41:01] Hi! [15:42:03] bam_: Hi [15:42:10] I am manually installing my environement [15:42:22] and getting error more and more [15:42:32] Let's see. [15:42:45] bam_ can you post some of the errors? [15:42:46] bam_: So you mean Mediawiki I guess? :-) [15:42:47] CFisch_WMDE: Ho [15:43:03] CFisch_WMDE: Hi [15:43:04] Bencemac: good luck ^^ [15:43:30] fatal: internal server error/716250), 8.25 MiB | 45.00 KiB/s [15:43:44] fatal: The remote end hung up unexpectedly [15:44:01] fatal: early EOF [15:44:18] fatal: index-pack failed [15:44:29] bam_: what command gives you these errors [15:44:45] git clone ssh://bam92@gerrit.wikimedia.org:29418/mediawiki/core.git --branch REL1_30 install-dir [15:45:24] Hmm sound like a problem with the network connection to me ... [15:45:54] ..or with gerrit [15:46:11] May be. But I don't figurout why and how [15:46:25] Nothing happened. No problem or solution. :/ [15:46:37] Bencemac: :-/ [15:46:40] Do you have any idea of troubleshooting? [15:46:42] bam_ you can also clone from github and set the rogin later. [15:46:55] ok [15:47:00] bam_ I'm looking up the URL, please stand by ... [15:47:30] chirborg: Ok [15:47:45] Bencemac: So maybe it's not the that's causing problems [15:48:02] CFisch_WMDE : using this URL git clone https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/p/mediawiki/core.git --branch REL1_30 install-dir? [15:48:24] bam_: yes you could also try that [15:48:46] or as chiborg mentioned you could use github [15:49:08] and then configure the gerrit user settings later [15:49:15] but try https first [15:50:04] Ok. Whiling am trying, would mind pass github URL, pls? [15:50:16] Or it does, just putting inside nowiki doesn't help. Replacing tags would tell us that it is the bad guy or not. [15:50:29] bam_ git clone https://github.com/wikimedia/mediawiki.git --branch REL1_30 [15:51:15] chiborg: thank you! [15:51:25] Bencemac: True, try that as a 2nd step. [15:52:01] Bencemac: I also hope caching does not get into your way there when testing if it worked [15:52:17] bam_ afterwards you would issue to command git remote set-url origin https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/p/mediawiki/core.git [15:52:34] My first move was a null edit. [15:52:41] Bencemac: you could add a "purge=now" to the url [15:52:51] when testing [15:53:29] or even "debug=true" ( the later might heavily increase loading time though ) [15:54:23] No changes. / [15:54:32] hmpf [15:55:19] I'm not sure one thing. If I have this {{#if: {{{format|}}} | ({{{format|}}}) }}, then {{#if: {{{format|}}} | ({{{format|}}}) }} would put a space begore {{{format|}}}? [15:55:43] Bencemac: that's what I would assume [15:56:20] I still have the same issue using git clone https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/p/mediawiki/core.git --branch REL1_30 install-dir [15:56:52] bam_ Then you can try the command with the github url [15:58:03] I am doing it [15:58:41] Bencemac: Like I said, I am no template expert here and also did not get everything going in with that thing ... One thing that I would do since you already have some attention from guys that seem more experienced on the ticket, you could share your findings there and see if they have a better idea ... [15:59:15] And maybe also you're able to get the attention of the original template author [16:02:25] Unfortunately, they (the Hungarian editors) retired. [16:03:01] I'm sorry but I have to leave on time. Thanks for participating bam_ and Bencemac. [16:03:12] Thanks your help. [16:04:43] Bencemac: :-/ I might be able to find the time looking into this the next days or at least poke some one [16:04:54] I sadly also have to leave now [16:05:05] bam_: I found https://stackoverflow.com/questions/21277806/fatal-early-eof-fatal-index-pack-failed [16:05:11] and https://stackoverflow.com/questions/6842687/the-remote-end-hung-up-unexpectedly-while-git-cloning/19286776 [16:05:23] No problem, thanks your help too! :) [16:05:39] that might be useful with your problems [16:05:53] Bencemac: You're very welcome! [16:06:03] * CFisch_WMDE waves [16:13:40] CFisch_WMDE: thank you [20:37:04] How I could convert my user script in a Gadget?