[10:39:47] <Urbanecm>	 Hello, why group0.dblist contains quite a lot of wikis, including a few of wikipedias? See https://noc.wikimedia.org/conf/highlight.php?file=dblists%2Fgroup0.dblist
[10:40:21] <Urbanecm>	 (it's in operations/mediawiki-config
[10:40:23] <Urbanecm>	 )
[10:42:04] <bawolff>	 I think a bunch of those are closed wikis
[10:42:18] <Urbanecm>	 bawolff, why are closed wikis in group0? 
[10:42:42] <bawolff>	 compare to https://noc.wikimedia.org/conf/highlight.php?file=dblists%2Fclosed.dblist
[10:42:46] <bawolff>	 I don't know that though
[10:42:55] <bawolff>	 I suppose they have no users to complain about bugs
[10:43:23] <bawolff>	 and maybe spreading to more wikis allows for better testing of the new version
[10:43:57] <Hauskatze>	 being closed and only edittable by few people who do not do that is hardly a source of bugtesting ;)
[10:43:57] <Urbanecm>	 So...they must be upgraded for keeping WMF wikis secure and nobody cares about when they got upgraded?
[10:44:15] <bawolff>	 https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/plugins/gitiles/operations/mediawiki-config/+/5b19257e12026c08ade0ba9d2a6a4662c9ac7d15
[10:44:15] <Urbanecm>	 Hello Hauskatze :)
[10:44:20] <Hauskatze>	 meow
[10:44:42] <bawolff>	 Its not really for security
[10:44:51] <bawolff>	 security patches don't generally go out with normal train
[10:45:27] <bawolff>	 based on the commit message, its for slightly better performance testing
[10:45:29] <Urbanecm>	 Well...if we close a wiki when the up2date version is 1.20, we really won't to keep the closed wiki in 1.20. Or am I wrong?
[10:46:00] <bawolff>	 not really, we want all our wikis to run basically the same version
[10:46:16] <bawolff>	 partially for security reasons, but partially for just to keep everything consistent
[10:46:27] <bawolff>	 the more different versions, the harder it is to keep everything straight
[10:46:38] <Urbanecm>	 Nobody can know everything, right?
[10:46:51] <bawolff>	 Even https://nostalgia.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Version runs the latest version ;)
[10:47:08] <bawolff>	 yeah, trying to keep the number of things to know down
[10:47:30] <Urbanecm>	 Thank you for your explanations, I understand it now.
[10:50:17] <Hauskatze>	 I guess this is just for train-purposes
[10:50:32] <Hauskatze>	 to put them in an update window of some sort
[15:30:06] <The_Photographer>	 hie
[15:30:23] <The_Photographer>	 please, someone could help me to test my script on QIC adding importScript("User:The Photographer/QICvote.js"); on your page User:<YOUR_USER>/common.js It could do the review procedure more easy. [10:41] <The_Photographer> Thanks
[15:30:44] <The_Photographer>	 after, you need enter to QIC page on wikimedia commons
[15:30:45] <The_Photographer>	 and vote
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