[00:53:06] HunterH: /3 [00:53:11] sorry [12:36:54] There are a complaint about Chrome reporting an outdated certificate for https [12:38:12] It is said to be from WebProxy, and valid from 21.12.2017 until 25.04.2018 [12:39:18] When I'm checking I find a certificate from DigiCert Inc. and it should be valid until sometimes in 2019 [12:51:52] jeblad: for which domain? [13:06:47] Question at https://no.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Tinget#Wikipedia_og_Chrome so I assume it is the same domain [13:06:58] I can't reproduce this [13:08:09] Only reason for this would be a really old browser, but the reporter hasn't said anything about version except "chrome" [13:29:55] jeblad: thanks for the link, I'm looking, do you know if who reported it is connecting from an office or public WiFi? [13:38:44] I have no idea [13:39:25] The reporter says the browser suddenly started to let him in, so I assume the browser has autoupdated [13:41:38] Wild guess; this is a newly installed machine that has an old browser, or he has reused an old download to install the browser [13:42:41] jeblad: From the looks of it, this seems a case of attempted Man-In-The-Middle by the owner of the network that the user is using [13:51:05] Nah, old certificate… [13:57:26] jeblad: our certificates are not issued by WebProxy, you can see our certificate history here: https://crt.sh/?q=wikipedia.org [14:00:59] it could be a proxy in a corporate-owned network for example [15:00:48] \o/ [15:00:53] Hello hello! [15:01:15] Welcome to todays episode of the technical advice IRC meeting! [15:01:46] This time starring jakob_WMDE and me! [15:02:02] Helloo! [15:03:07] So we already have two topics on the agenda ... mainframe98 just left ... :-/ [15:03:29] I'm still here, but my connection failed, and I apparently reconnected under a different nick? [15:03:29] But I see Bamyers99 is here [15:03:37] Dunno why [15:03:40] ahh yeah :-) [15:03:55] internet strangeness [15:05:08] Well, anyway. My question that I wanted to ask had to do with OOUI HTMLForm anti frustration, but that problem seems to have solved itself already. [15:05:08] So since you now responded first mainframe98_ ... whats the matter with OOUI? :-) [15:05:17] oh perfect :-D [15:05:46] I was wondering if OOUI would auto submit when one presses the enter button, because that is undesirable for my form. [15:06:09] and did it? :-) [15:07:28] But apparently, this only occurs in certain cases. I'll need to do a quick check, but it appears that when there is no textarea in the form descriptor, the enter key is also used to submit the form [15:08:08] Yeah, that's what I would have guessed. And in most cases this is something you want to happen. [15:08:29] You can override that behavior if wanted though. [15:09:17] How would I do that? Currently depending on the form I have there's either submit on enter press, or only on the button press. I can't nail down why that is though. [15:09:51] So normally it depends not on the kind of form but in the kind if element where your focus is in. [15:10:05] So a form with a normal text input field and a textarea [15:10:19] would submit when your focus is in the input field with enter [15:10:31] but not when you are currently in the textarea [15:11:07] so this is something you could set per form element [15:12:38] atm I am not entirely sure how to manipulate that the OOUI way but I could have a look [15:14:48] That explains why the submit only behaves like that on input fields. The strange thing is that in a large form (probably pushes HTMLForm to its limits itself) the submit on enter does not seem to work. [15:16:27] mainframe98_: that sounds strange ... so lets say you have a form with 50 input fields then the submit with Enter does not work when one of them is focused? [15:18:55] My last count was just shy of 400 input fields of all kinds, but yes, that's correct [15:21:39] Although, it appears that this doesn't occur when JavaScript is disabled, so that suggests some OOUI JS changes the behaviour of the input fields. [15:32:23] I am not familiar with the protocol here, can I ask my question now? [15:32:42] Bamyers99: sure :-) [15:33:08] mainframe98_: yeah maybe with so many fields somethings goes wrong there [15:33:32] It is regarding the qacct command line tool on ToolForge [15:33:59] It take a very long time to get results for a job that was run in the past day or so. [15:34:50] CFisch_WMDE: I'll look into this further on a later time. Currently, only my "test" form submits on enter press, and not the actual form, so the priority isn't that high anymore. Regardless, thank you. [15:35:16] mainframe98_: okay you're welcome [15:35:39] Bamyers99: hmm sounds like something the for the could guys [15:36:26] so you could try to ask that question in #wikimedia-cloud [15:37:18] the guys there are mostly involved with the whole infrastructure around tools [15:37:31] could be that they have an idea on the topic [15:39:13] ok, thanks [15:39:13] I think Bryan (bd808 on IRC) specifically can probably help or point you to someone [15:39:47] I have no clue about the particular problem either, unfortunately :/ [15:43:27] Does anyone else have a question? :) [15:43:47] :-) [15:44:22] Oh, I forgot to ask my second question: I've noticed that $wgSiteSupportPage is not used in MediaWiki anywhere in the code, nor in any extension. [15:44:36] How would one go ask for deprecation of this global? [15:45:12] If it's not used, it's already deprecated [15:45:15] It just needs removing [15:45:18] See https://codesearch.wmflabs.org/search/?q=wgSiteSupportPage&i=nope&files=&repos= [15:45:23] Or, it could be a bug [15:45:30] FYI, you need to search without the wg too [15:46:46] It's not officially deprecated according to DefaultSettings.php. Search without wg (I was lazy) shows the same results [15:48:09] hmm I don't really know how the official process would be, but I guess best practice is to create a Phab ticket "Remove deprecated ...." [15:48:30] An interesting tidbit is that it's defined in wmf-config for default and dewiki. Both links redirect to donatewiki, so those values are outdated as well. [15:48:40] and the one could add patches removing it everywhere [15:48:46] If it's not used in code, there's really no point deprecating it [15:48:56] Just like CFisch_WMDE says, clean up wmf-config etc [15:50:08] I'll just create a task for it then. Thank you both. [15:55:37] So anyone else? Still 5 minutes left ;-) [16:02:20] Ok that's it for today, see you next time! o/ [16:02:44] Thanks everyone! [16:02:51] Until next time! o/ [16:08:26] what's wrong with those sorting headers here: https://fi.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luokka:Nokian_matkapuhelimet ? I mean "𒑖" character should not be there