[00:01:23] Hello, I am the CEO of Wikipedia and as I am saying that I am no longer a CEO of Wikipedia and all administration should unblock everyone until further notice [00:01:31] Thank for your understanding [00:01:45] This meeting now be closed [00:04:31] To our host please log this chat now [00:08:50] Lies! No wikimedia meeting was ever that efficient [02:23:40] Yes, hello. [02:23:56] Clicking "Publish changes" to post to a user talk page is weird. [02:28:58] https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T163302#3757456 [02:29:00] I weighed in. [10:11:00] Sigh, I search "job queue" hoping to find a help page for newbies and I only find stuff I created like https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:English_Wikipedia_job_queue_2012-12.png [16:06:27] and I'm back, for your question of the day [16:06:35] why do we have [[wikia: ]] as a prefix? [16:08:24] for an example, see https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Primefac/RandName&oldid=810326961 [16:13:27] Why not? [16:13:39] primefac: why not? there are a lot of interwiki prefixes for external sites. [16:13:51] there are? interesting [16:13:55] that was indeed the original purpose of these prefixes. [16:13:56] * primefac is learning new things [16:14:09] well in that case, who should I contact regarding the fact that the links don't work? [16:14:17] See also https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Interwiki_map [16:14:29] neat [16:14:32] Wikia http://www.wikia.com/wiki/c:$1 [16:14:33] darn, you beat me to it [16:14:35] What doesn't work about it? [16:14:54] they don't prefix their pages with c: [16:15:23] Is c an interwiki link on their side? [16:15:27] so [[Wikia:test]] sends a user to http://www.wikia.com/wiki/c:test which doesn't exist [16:15:31] it must be [16:16:01] looks like an interwiki on their side to the Community portal [16:16:25] maybe wikia broke "magic prefix forwarding" [16:16:35] old MW? Being broken? [16:16:37] Never [16:16:40] ...so c: would still work for them in wikitext, but not in links [16:16:45] hehe... [16:17:16] Reedy: how about "old MW tweaked beyond repair?" [16:17:34] lol [16:18:00] primefac: but why would our wikia prefix point to their community portal? that seems silly... [16:18:36] primefac: two places to report: talk page of Interwiki_map, or pahbricator. You could also first investigate where wikia:... links are currently used, and whether they are all broken. [16:18:55] oh nice, we have a WikiFur prefix o_O [16:19:04] I wonder if it was an old namespace alias that they broke [16:19:07] "because no one uses it" [16:19:12] possible [16:19:29] why do we have Wikia and WikiaSite? they resolve to the same URL [16:19:49] God knows [16:19:55] DanielK_WMDE_: How's that line level blame going? :P [16:20:20] God may or may not know, depending on your definition of "god", "know", "may", and "not". [16:22:31] Reedy: it really isn't. The fundamental problem is that we can maintain a blame map for wikitext, but we want to show blame for html. so the blame info needs to loop though the parser. cleanly. in the presence of templates and parser functions. [16:22:32] Yay Wikia interwikis, our favorite conspiracy theory evergreen on Meta [16:22:40] Reedy: so... won't happen until we have "clean templates". [16:22:57] DanielK_WMDE_: I'm hoping you knew I wasn't being completely serious ;) [16:22:59] Reedy: best approach for the actual blame map so far seems to be this: http://www.aifb.kit.edu/images/1/1f/Www2014_submission_715_(9).pdf [16:23:41] Reedy: yes, i know that you were teasing... but it's still something i'd like to happen! and it's one of the things blocked by "unclean" templates... [16:23:51] Reedy: ask me mow MCR is going >_< [16:24:36] any ETA for 1.29.2? [16:24:56] it said tomorrow in the email but a time/timezone was not specifically mentioned [16:25:01] Reception123: Today [16:25:16] I've not got a time in mind... [16:25:17] Ok, thanks :) [16:25:21] Still a few things going on in the background [16:25:27] But haven't started the tarballing process etc [16:25:38] And then screwing up CI for everyone for hours after :D [16:25:43] was a bit surprised there was a another release before the main 1.30 release [16:26:10] Yeah... One security thing that was deemed more important than 1.30 [16:26:18] And means we don't need to do a 1.30.1 very soon after too [16:26:41] apparently it was already dealt with by mediawiki? [16:27:35] primefac: "it"? [16:27:53] Different topic: do you see the same as https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/F10792575 at https://hu.wikipedia.org/wiki/F%C3%A1jl:Paolo_Monti_-_Serie_fotografica_-_BEIC_6336964.jpg [16:28:06] "I believe this issue has already been reflected upstream in MediaWiki" was what was told to me [16:29:02] primefac: told by whom? [16:29:22] OTRS ticket [16:29:26] basically requesting for us to fix the issue [16:29:33] I think I'm going to sent 'em to phab [16:30:13] If you mean Wikia, maybe they're talking about the MediaWiki interwiki map while the problem is probably the Wikimedia one [16:30:13] though it looks like the c: prefix is the "community" link [16:30:33] The Community Wikia used to be the main "broker" of links [16:30:44] so [[c:test]] links to the "Community Test" page but [[c:boils]] breaks because there is no "Boils" community [16:30:53] I think it was recently repurposed to be more like a "FANDOM" brand-spreader [16:32:06] hmm [16:32:12] looking at the current usage, I think it *is* right [16:32:15] https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Search&limit=500&search=insource%3A%2F%5C%5Bwikia%3A%2F&searchToken=hkzu25jt9b4u7she97xrqwwu [16:32:21] so it *is* user-end issues [16:32:30] i.e. if someone puts the wrong link, it's their own fault [16:34:41] Unless Wikia changed their redirecting, which is possible [16:34:55] doesn't seem to [16:35:04] I checked a handful of the links and they all work [17:12:51] #freenode_#wikimedia-devrel:matrix.org [17:15:18] !nick Groovier [17:15:54] !nick Groovier [17:19:39] second try [17:19:59] do you see the same as https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/F10792575 at https://hu.wikipedia.org/wiki/F%C3%A1jl:Paolo_Monti_-_Serie_fotografica_-_BEIC_6336964.jpg [18:24:35] twentyafterfour: Hello! May I ask you a Phabricator related question ? :) [18:24:55] !ask [18:25:44] (grr, macro didn't work) JeanFred: Just ask the question. That way the person can respond when they have time, rather than having to wait for you to be around at the same time. :) [18:26:00] (Also, potentially other people can answer) [18:26:22] quiddity: That makes sense, thanks :) [18:28:01] !ask is Please ask [18:28:01] Sorry, you are not authorized to perform this [18:28:05] lame [18:28:37] I'm authorized in the other channel [18:29:32] twentyafterfour: I’m trying to deploy `https://github.com/wikimedia/phabricator-extensions/blob/wmf/stable/src/panel/` on a custom Phab install. I believe I correctly loaded the libs, and I can use `ProjectBurnupGraph` and `ProjectOpentasks` ; but I cannot get `MilestoneNavProfile` to be displayed. What I am missing ? :) [19:07:30] JeanFred: I think I had to hack some code in phabricator core to make that one work [19:08:07] https://github.com/wikimedia/phabricator/blob/c015c277e24d168934d01a4788f74e5ebf90d8ac/src/applications/project/engine/PhabricatorProjectProfileMenuEngine.php#L48 [19:08:17] yep ... that's it ^ [19:10:54] ooooh I see. Thanks!