[01:06:54] <Cullen328>	 Hello wikipedian, We have been issued a website takedown notice. According to the USAGOV website said the Wikipedia administration and user are responsible to pay for any perk to keep us up. I afraid this meeting will be over and no longer in discussion. Any question will be forward to my talkpage. Thank you for your understanding.
[01:08:14] <Cullen328>	 This meeting will now be closed permanently 
[01:08:49] <Reedy>	 lol
[05:42:32] <Minato826>	 do i need community consent to add Twinkle at Kannada Wikisource (kn.wikisource.org)
[05:44:03] <Minato826>	 do i need community consent to add Twinkle at Kannada Wikisource (kn.wikisource.org)
[05:44:21] <p858snake|L>	 Minato826: that is a question for the community at kannada wikisource not for here
[05:44:55] <p858snake|L>	 we don't know the bot gadget and bot policies for all the different communities
[10:17:59] <dax_is_no_fun>	 all the dongs
[10:18:03] <dax_is_no_fun>	 !ops
[10:19:09] <dax_is_no_fun>	 wmopbot: ops
[10:19:11] <dax_is_no_fun>	 !ops
[15:39:59] <Pkbwcgs>	 Hi
[15:40:12] <Pkbwcgs>	 I got this error when opening Wikimedia Commons
[15:40:19] <Pkbwcgs>	 Request from ********* via cp3046 frontend, Varnish XID 79890980 Upstream caches: cp3046 int Error: 404, Requested domainname does not exist on this server at Sun, 12 Nov 2017 15:34:41 GMT
[15:40:45] <Pkbwcgs>	 ********* is my IP address which I covered
[15:41:30] <Pkbwcgs>	 Can you please help me out
[15:44:23] <AGIB|Away>	 "opening Wikimedia Commons" - which page?
[15:44:48] <Pkbwcgs>	 Opening the main page
[15:44:55] <Pkbwcgs>	 And literally any page
[15:45:36] <AGIB|Away>	 ok and where are you (what country)
[15:45:45] <Pkbwcgs>	 United Kingdom
[15:46:09] <AGIB|Away>	 hmm
[15:46:14] <AGIB|Away>	 ok one sec
[15:46:35] <AGIB|Away>	 but i will say that I am in the UK and commons is working fine for me
[15:46:54] <AGIB|Away>	 so it might be a local issue or something to do with your ISP
[15:47:19] <Pkbwcgs>	 This is the other error message
[15:47:47] <Pkbwcgs>	 See https://thepasteb.in/p/58hg9pR0klmsv
[15:48:04] <Pkbwcgs>	 Secondly
[15:48:38] <Pkbwcgs>	 Pictures are not always showing up on Wikipedia
[15:49:03] <Pkbwcgs>	 It does throw up error 404 often
[15:49:49] <AGIB|Away>	 normally an error like the pastebin one there will occur randomly when the devs are busy changing something
[15:50:18] <Pkbwcgs>	 It has been happening for past a month
[15:50:21] <AGIB|Away>	 but it is generally very intermittant and the site should work most trys
[15:51:42] <Pkbwcgs>	 And I have reported this on https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(technical)
[15:53:23] <AGIB|Away>	 Ok I assume you tried the browser cache/router/plugs/computer/etc restart/refresh - I can't find anything obviously wrong, but there is going to be something see what happens on the WP:VPT
[15:53:54] <Pkbwcgs>	 See the previous discussion at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(technical)/Archive_160#Images_are_not_showing_up_on_Wikipedia
[15:54:02] <AntiComposite>	 AGIB|Away, This is a server error. None of the things you mentioned have /_any/_ effect.
[15:54:57] <AGIB|Away>	 don't you believe it, I managed to cache a server error for 2 days once :P never again...
[21:46:16] <DaneGeld>	 Evening tech crew. Wonder if you could spare a moment or two to help me please? I have just seen on my watchlist on the Simple English wikipedia, important messages we should be getting through massmessage, which are failing. Apparently our Project talk page is coming back READONLY according to the logs.
[21:47:17] <DaneGeld>	 Now, I'm not an admin there, so I probably can't do anything about it, but Wikipedia:Simple_talk on our project, can be posted on by anyone.  Does anyone have ideas as to why this is failing please?
[21:47:58] <DaneGeld>	 See: https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Log/massmessage for what I'm talking about.
[21:48:56] <Aguyintobooks>	 one sec
[21:49:19] <DaneGeld>	 Thanks
[21:52:26] <Aguyintobooks>	 well apparently the wiki is in readonly mode... which does not help much
[21:56:01] <DaneGeld>	 Yeah. That's odd.  The wiki's not in readonly mode, cause we're still getting edits on it.  Could it be that the wiki was just readonly when the delivery was attempted?
[21:57:50] <Aguyintobooks>	 i think the massmessage system is incorrectly configured, and that in the configuration the wiki is stated as read only I note that it has never actually succeeded in sending a message, so clearly its a setup issue
[21:58:47] <DaneGeld>	 Would that be on the tech end, our end, or do we need to speak to someone else to get that fixed?
[21:59:04] <NotASpy>	 Simple would be better being read-only, but that's just as an aside, and is absolutely no use in the current discussion. 
[21:59:54] <DaneGeld>	 Maybe so, that's your opinion and you're quite welcome to it! For speakers of english as a second or subsequent language, the main english wikipedia is a nightmare.
[22:00:14] <DaneGeld>	 We simply try to make it easier. We don't always manage, but hey, shit's worth trying :)
[22:00:19] <NotASpy>	 Simple's much, much worse, unfortunately. 
[22:00:35] <DaneGeld>	 In what way?
[22:00:40] <Aguyintobooks>	 I think getting an admin/dev there to reinstall https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:MassMessage would probably work
[22:00:47] <NotASpy>	 it has never been helped by being our dumping ground for our unwanted users. 
[22:01:24] <DaneGeld>	 Ok Aguyintobooks - I'll pass that on to one of our admins.  I'll drop a message now.
[22:02:02] <DaneGeld>	 And NotASpy - that's why we have a onestrike policy for people banned on the English wikipedia. Mess around on ours and you're out the door.
[22:02:35] <DaneGeld>	 Buy anyway, I'm not going to defend our wiki, I am going to get on and work on it :) Cheers for the help, Aguyintobooks