[01:48:19] thedj: Thoughts on https://inclusive-components.design/tabbed-interfaces/ for Special:Preferences? [01:48:49] Was thinking we could trigger the tabbed styles through pure CSS whilst still making sure it doesn't show a tab-interface to nojs users by guarding the switch with .client-js [01:49:15] so it looks like a list of links with sequential sections in no-js, and in JS mode (without relying on JS for layout) it will render as tabs and tab sections. [01:49:34] We'd switch the role attributes with JS at load time and add the interaction etc. [02:43:36] Volker_E: Thoughts on ^ btw? [02:48:06] Krinkle: that looks like a interesting solution on first sight, it would also come out with better mobile support, would like to double-check with other design folks on the arrow vs other kind of selected state [02:49:03] Volker_E: Yeah, so the current thing is a
    with section panels after it initially, and then the whole thing changed in JS. And we improved that for shifted/non-accessibility/js folks by making most of the tab stuff render server-side. Which fixed the FOUC [02:49:08] but leaves it in an even more strange state [02:49:39] Having it be back the old way when JS is disabled would be nice (which means it won't look like tabs without JS), but still have it look like tabs without a FOUC, which is possible thanks to the .client-js class we use. [02:49:53] yeah [02:49:58] Volker_E: Design-wise pretty open, this is mostly about JS and HTML. But the curent design could certainly use an update. [02:50:04] It's mostly custom and not in line with anything else. [02:50:14] But I'm not especially proposing it look any different than now. [02:50:38] the tabs on prefs right now aren't standardized anyways, yes [02:51:09] Oh I see, I didn't read to the accordeon for mobile part, that's interesting yeah [02:51:17] the possible mobile interface improvement is really attractive [02:51:18] I'm not sure what mobile currently does with prefs. [02:51:24] not much :/ [02:51:32] It's a custom thing right now [02:51:35] with sub pages [02:51:36] well [02:51:37] for each thing [02:51:40] which is fine I suppose [02:52:41] mobile is waiting for an update on the OOUIficiation and said they would possibly show it as well [02:52:59] I have to go, my brain is fried from all the SVG markup optimization [02:54:38] ah damn, did I say fried? wrong bug number on the patch, eurgh [05:08:56] Could somebody run this on production?: SELECT "Image" AS Zombie FROM commonswiki_p.image WHERE img_name = "Stuttgart_train_station..jpg"; [08:39:17] [[Tech]]; 103.204.244.14; [none]; https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?diff=17386102&oldid=17386028&rcid=10808497 [08:39:36] [[Tech]]; 103.204.244.14; [none]; https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?diff=17386105&oldid=17386102&rcid=10808503 [08:43:00] [[Tech]]; Tegel; Reverted changes by [[Special:Contributions/103.204.244.14|103.204.244.14]] ([[User talk:103.204.244.14|talk]]) to last version by ArchiverBot; https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?diff=17386110&oldid=17386105&rcid=10808520 [12:39:13] hello all, quick question: If I want to extend an existing bot framework so it can handle tags, who do I talk to? [12:49:19] I would suggest talking to the people at the bot approvals group on en-wiki, they are probably the most knowledgeable about bots [12:49:43] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Bot_Approvals_Group [12:50:59] Its more about extending an existing framework (like jWiki), than about a specific bot (using some framework) which would be extended to also look at tags [12:52:10] tags look relatively new [12:57:06] trouble is the dev team which maintain wikipedia are not necessarily knowledgeable about bots, if i had to hazard a guess at the most likely person to know how its done, i would say someone like https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:BJorsch_(WMF) or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:MusikAnimal [12:58:35] I would not even say there is one "dev team" :) [12:58:45] there are just many people in different areas [12:59:30] i tend to think of them as a dev team :) [15:46:55] ребят, если страница удалена, но осталась в кэш очень хорошего АИ, можно на неё ссылаться? [15:52:33] green2378: What kind of page/site? On a Wikimedia wiki itself? Or a page that you want to reference in a Wikipedia article? Or something else? [15:53:01] почему на инглише? [15:53:14] это разве не чат русской википедии? [15:53:41] green2378, no, it is not. [15:53:50] This is a general channel about any Wikimedia wikis. [15:54:02] see the channel topic [15:54:03] ok [15:54:19] maybe #wikipedia-ru , if you want to discuss ru.wikipedia.org only [15:54:34] I make an article in Wikipedia, and there is a very good source of information [15:54:58] If you can link to some archive / cached version depends on the rules of that Wikipedia community, I'd say [15:55:15] yes, it is site [15:55:37] ok [15:56:05] but there are general rules? [15:56:34] no. each community has their own rules on which references are fine. [15:57:21] i mean that this will be an archive in Google's cache [15:57:31] ok [19:03:02] https://sfconservancy.org/blog/2017/nov/03/sflc-legal-action/ o.O [19:09:53] Seems a bit odd, would ike to hear SFLC's side of course [19:40:12] yeah, there's some interesting comments on LWN https://lwn.net/Articles/738046/ [21:35:58] how to make 2 columns? i am indicates the number of columns 2, and shows 5 [21:48:38] -> #mediawiki [21:48:43] and more info needed, like a testcase. [22:38:12] thanks!