[12:34:20] hi [12:35:19] is there a standard way to get, in a scribunto module, the name of the page that trancluded the template which is inkvoking the module? [12:36:32] I know `frame:parent():getTitle()` to get the template title, but as far as I remember, :parent():parent() will return `nil`. [12:38:40] hmm, maybe mw.title.getCurrentTitle() is what I need [16:12:54] I've been getting some reports from readers on e-mail, and even observed myself, that the main page of the Norwegian Bokmål Wikipedia is showing old dates in the "Today" secton. Often lagging behind 2–3 days. Doing action=purge solves this, but I thought that wasn't supposed to be necessary for the main page? that the main page is excempted from caching [18:36:38] Hi Jhs. [18:36:46] I don't think the main page is exempt from caching. [18:36:56] If you use {{CURRENTDATE}} or similar, I think the cache is supposed to be set for about 24 hours. [18:37:00] But there are multiple cache layers. [18:39:35] hi Esther. {{CURRENTDATE}} is indeed used for the date, yeah [18:40:03] i vaguely remember hearing something about front page caching years ago, but don't know where or from whom. i could very well be making it up [18:40:07] So that should invalidate parser cache after 24 hours, I believe. [18:40:13] But there's also HTML caching on top of parser cache. [18:40:21] these lags have been for more than 24 hours, some times 2 or 3 days [18:40:38] Though presumably parser cache invalidation would trigger HTML cache invalidation... [18:40:55] You could just set up a job to null edit the page daily. ;-) [18:49:12] Esther, are you encouraging me to run a bot on my admin account? :-O ;-P [18:52:48] Jhs: enwp has a bot that just purges the main page at some regular interval [18:56:40] Jhs: Is the main page fully protected? You could just reduce its protection.