[01:18:39] Niharika: Tell me if you want more testing… Or if I shall break something else… [01:19:11] * jeblad thinking "exploding servers"… [01:19:31] * jeblad thinking "flooding server rooms"… [01:19:50] …walking disaster area… [01:21:41] This is nice T174123 [01:21:41] T174123: Editable content disappears when syntax highlight in code mirror is turned on - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T174123 [01:22:09] Edit frame goes blank :D [03:39:28] Anyone around I ask about the new mediawiki browser font thing? [03:55:58] drewmutt, fontcdn. !ask :) people who know about it may live in other timezeones. [03:56:33] (assuming you mean https://tools.wmflabs.org/fontcdn/ ) [03:57:23] We have a helpee who is expressing concern about their font changing in their source editor. Didn't know if it was a vote, or just a phab ticket. [03:58:06] drewmutt, ohthat! 2 seconds: [03:58:34] drewmutt, see 2nd item in "Changes this week" https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Tech/News/2017/34 [03:59:02] "The default font in the edit window will chang.." [03:59:08] That one, yeah? [03:59:26] I looked at the ticket on it, but it said it's going to make default mono-spaced, which doesn't seem to be the case. [03:59:26] yup. but only for mac/ios. [04:00:00] It seems it has a different font-face for "sans-serif" now. [04:00:02] More compact or something. [04:02:33] I assume it's a bug? [04:02:34] drewmutt, not sure what that means. Screenshots might help? If it's an enwiki users, and there's a chance of userscripts/gadgets/etc being involved, perhaps add a note at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(technical)#Fixed-width_font_on_edit_boxes [04:06:07] drewmutt, the only code changed was the user-preference from "browser default" setting to "monospace". Perhaps they need to switch to "browser default" instead of "san-serif"? [04:08:14] quiddity: Looks like this now.. http://i.imgur.com/O4hZoBV.png [04:12:45] drewmutt, if changing their onwiki user-preferences to one of the other 4 options doesn't help (at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-editing - they should confirm trying that first) [04:13:20] Then we'd need a clearer description of "what it looked like before" in order to get any further. Plus maybe someone who actually knows how macs work! Also details on their OS and browser types. [04:14:11] (as in, i don't have a macOS or iOS device and don't know much about them) [04:14:36] quiddity: Heh, no worries, I do, and I know a good deal, but yeah, it's hard to compare and contrast. Maybe another wiki hasn't been updated yet? [04:16:05] quiddity: Anywho, gotta head out, but thanks for pointing me in the right direction! [04:16:19] the wikipedias are last (thurday), so no on SUL. But maybe they could try screenshots at https://wikiconference.org/index.php?title=Internal:Sandbox&action=edit&redlink=1 [04:16:39] drewmutt, ^ and np. o/ [04:49:47] hey anyone around? [04:50:17] oh, that's another thing. They're not necessarily here right now. [04:50:36] quiddity: helpee I was asking about ^ [04:50:43] I am part of the 10% of editors who use a Mac and today....yes today, the font in my editing window on Wikipedia changed [04:51:45] I think it is now a Times New Roman or a variant - has curliques on it or whatever and I literally cannot edit using it. [04:52:04] It is too hard on my eyes, and is different from the published font [04:52:40] Shearonink, have you tried switching between the other 3 options in the menu at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-editing [04:52:51] I am trying to see if switching skins etc fixes this on my end but frankly this is awful [04:52:56] for me [04:53:04] hey quid, one sec [04:53:18] I'll see if that makes a difference [05:01:27] hey quid at least I was able to get rid of that AWFUL Times New Roman variant [05:01:38] but it still looks odd [05:02:45] Shearonink, to confirm, did you try all 4 of the options? And the result is that you've found 1 which looks close but still different? (if yes, which option?) [05:05:10] the sans serif and the browser default both looks the same [05:05:18] I had it set to monotype [05:05:24] monospace [05:08:46] the default changed today, from "browser default" to "monospace". So you might have had a sans-serif *via* the browser default, until today? [05:09:38] thank you [05:10:19] all I know is something changed and yes I missed the memoranda the consensus-building that this was a great thing [05:10:34] to change the browser default etc [05:12:51] Shearonink, nod. Hope that helps. If you have more concerns, it would be good to take screenshots of (A) what you want it to look like (perhaps try editing as anon at wikiconference.org to see an older mediawiki version) [05:13:08] both the browser default and the sans-serif look about the same [05:13:55] I panicked when that Times New Roman came up...but at least I think I can continue editing [05:14:09] gawd that font sucks [05:15:20] Shearonink, you can also change your own browser (Safari/Chrome/etc) defaults, which is where that selection is coming from, so that you never see it again! [05:15:32] got to go. ttfn. [05:16:10] quid: apparently I cannot [05:16:54] quiddity: https://discussions.apple.com/thread/7388887?start=0&tstart=0 [07:55:35] [[Tech]]; ArchiverBot; Bot: Archiving 1 thread (older than 30 days) to [[Tech/Archives/2017]].; https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?diff=17153150&oldid=17143168&rcid=10400141 [10:50:56] wotcha all, little stuck on something and would appreciate a poke in the right direction - how are images uploaded to `/static/images/mobile/copyright/`? I believe I've seen some logs in -operations where they've synced from somewhere? [11:05:24] TNT|away: That needs someone to push a patch for the mediawiki/config repo to gerrit, that patch being merged and deployed to production. The path you named lives in https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/source/mediawiki-config/browse/master/static/images/mobile/copyright/ [11:06:24] eddiegp: ah! Thank you :) [11:07:23] You could create a task for that in phabricator and tag it with #mediawiki-configuration if you're not familar with it yourself. [19:07:23] jeblad: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/H253 [19:07:30] Did you mean for this? [19:07:44] You seem to being subscribed to many tasks... [20:28:31] quiddity: Did that whole font fiasco get sorted out? [20:29:00] drewmutt, yes, I believe so. Or at least they got a font that was close enough to what they wanted. [21:04:02] Reedy, not sure who you ask… [21:04:25] You [21:07:12] Me? [21:07:27] jeblad, your rule is subscribing you to dozens of unrelated tasks. e.g. https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T102066#3554148 [21:08:03] jeblad, you probably want to disable https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/H253 and to add yourself as a "Watcher" at https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/project/profile/2053/ [21:08:38] I have multiplke heads, like hydra! =) [21:09:10] I was wondering if the match was accurate or would find parts of words [21:09:35] Its the "spec" part [21:10:42] yup. But it's also good to minimize the number of Herald rules in existence, because they're "expensive" to run. (There's a task somewhere about it) [21:11:07] so if you can accomplish the same thing via Watching a project, then that is preferable. [21:11:09] But I'm important! I must know everything! [21:11:43] At least some people at nowiki thinks so… And I go, - que? [21:11:50] ;) [21:12:24] Is there some way to list all newly added tasks? I'll go clean up the mess… [21:15:49] O_O you must be kiddin… [21:30:53] jeblad: See why I mentioned it? lol [21:31:43] mv Reedy /dev/null [21:32:27] * jeblad singing …cleaning out my closet… [22:18:37] jeblad: Did you see my comment here: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T174060? [22:19:07] Nah, still cleaning mess… o_O [22:19:15] I'll take a look [22:19:23] It's high priority! :P [22:20:06] I would have less mess to clean up if Ready didn't notice… Kan I take away internet from Reedy? =) [22:20:26] Not happening. [22:20:55] Okey… Can I connect his keyboard to the 24kV lines? [22:22:03] Okey, so you can reproduce on my user pages… thats weird [22:27:56] jeblad: Can you reproduce it on my sandbox page I linked to? [22:28:15] Just did, no bug [22:28:34] This is weird. [22:28:40] What The Fiscal year…? [22:28:59] What the fudging hell, indeed. [22:29:25] Global JS? But I tested with the bot account and that is clean… [22:30:22] And we used safemode. [22:30:39] It is still there on my page? [22:31:22] I'll test in the main space at nowiki [22:34:46] jeblad: Yeah, still see it on your page. [22:35:37] https://no.wikipedia.org/wiki/Syntax_highligt_test [22:36:03] So what is so special about me? [22:36:54] I'll double check with the bot account [22:38:17] Also on the bot account [22:39:29] jeblad: Some other people can also reproduce it. [22:40:01] jeblad: Can i highly suggest curbing your threats towards people in this channel, even if they are made in a jokingly sense. We do like to keep these channels civil [22:41:37] O_O he knows me, but okey [22:43:12] he also knows I have very much respect for his work [22:44:44] Niharika: You could not reproduce the bug on a page you created, only on pages I created? [22:45:29] jeblad: I couldn't reproduce it anywhere besides your pages but others did. See comments on the ticket. [22:47:28] Do you use english during testing, or some other language/script? [22:48:55] English. [22:51:22] Bumped into another weird copy-paste bug [22:53:37] Nope, English didn't change anything [23:00:14] I don't know… Is there any user specific AB-testing going on? [23:00:30] FWIW, I was also able to reproduce the bug [23:00:56] https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Bawolff/sandbox&action=edit [23:00:57] That should not stick on the page… [23:01:30] I am a walking disaster zone, I'll break things by thinking about them… [23:08:48] I know of a few very weird options (user tracking) but they should not make anything break [23:08:58] So, I don't know