[08:15:39] hello [08:16:55] Im Gergő from Hungary Im trying out mediawiki for the first time, I wanted to make it easier and more visual to edit pages so Ive installed VisualEditor but it seems to need parsoid as well, how to install it on Windows 10. Im running my mediawikipage on my local computer using xampp. [08:23:32] you'll probably get more help in #mediawiki [08:25:34] but whats this npm? [08:25:48] am sorry nobody answered there [08:33:03] hun: I am unaware of your specific context, but npm generally stands for Node Package Manager (https://www.npmjs.com/) [08:33:36] im getting an error message 'npm should be run outside of the node repl, in your normal shell.' [08:33:53] im on a windows 10 pc i dont have shell [08:33:55] this isnt a server [08:34:08] what to do then to succesfully install this [08:34:26] parsoid [08:35:17] can i use cmd as a shell? [08:38:27] anyway thanks guys i will figure it out somehow [08:54:47] legoktm: hi lego! we've implemented your suggestion in https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/357826. do you think you find some time to look at it again, so we can keep it running? [15:59:18] Real quick question - on modifying MediaWiki:Vector.css (or any skin CSS), should the changes be immediately visible or is there some caching? [15:59:47] answered my own question, given it's been a minute or two and now the change has worked [15:59:52] \o/ [16:30:17] hi. I am behind a wireless isp that only gives out internal ip addresses. suddenly today wikipedia.org times out. I asked them adn they said there is nothing wrong from their side. is it possible wikipedia server blocked their ip address? [16:31:27] Very unlikely access would be completely blocked [16:33:02] hussam: What do you get if you do a trace route to wikipedia? [16:33:16] Reedy: thank you. I will ask the isp again. it could be a routing issue. [16:33:22] ok, one second. [16:34:50] https://pastebin.com/raw/77iPwdPu [16:36:47] Reedy: this is the external ip address according to whatismyip.com 185.6.148.130 [16:37:49] considering there are likely hundreds behind their ip, I assumed someone did something banned and got the IP blocked. [16:37:56] something bad* [16:41:59] ping -c 10 91.198.174.192 replies [16:47:20] hussam: Being banned from editing wouldn't stop you being able to view the site [16:49:55] Reedy: ah ok. I'll just wait then. [16:50:40] wget says Connecting to en.wikipedia.org|91.198.174.192|:443... failed: Connection timed out. [16:51:48] hussam, your range is not blocked https://tools.wmflabs.org/meta/stalktoy/185.6.148.0%2F24 [16:52:01] anyhow You would be able to read [16:53:06] is wikipedia.org available through one ip address only? [16:53:15] you can get it through ipv6 :) [16:53:37] Connecting to en.wikipedia.org|2620:0:862:ed1a::1|:443... failed: Network is unreachable. [16:53:40] That IP is esams. And that's working fine for me [16:53:53] So it does seem like a routing issue in one direction with your ISP [16:54:01] hussam: can you try the same with 208.80.153.224? [16:56:00] volans: https://pastebin.com/raw/Acry6D7c [16:57:08] volans wget 208.80.153.224 works. [16:57:10] while you cannot ping the 91.198.174.192? in the previous pastebin there isn't the ping ;) [16:57:28] ok, thanks [16:59:20] for 91.198.174.192 regular icmp ping works https://pastebin.com/raw/F5tvh9Pu [16:59:56] anyway, I sent them a message. it's 8PM now so It won't be till tomorrow before they reply. [17:01:00] ok, I'll tell our network folks and see if they see something on our side [17:03:28] I added 208.80.153.224 wikipedia.org 208.80.153.224 en.wikipedia.org 208.80.153.224 www.wikipedia.org to my hosts file. it loads through this one. [17:06:19] sorry if the 'ip banned' question sounded inappropriate. something similar has happened before. it's difficult being on an ip shared with a significant amount of neighborhoods. [17:07:27] hi [17:13:09] hi XioNoX [18:11:02] Why there is no autocomplete by Tab in fields with OOjs UI suggestions? This is a regression that is clear as day, "Page preview with this template" is unusable now. [18:12:17] (current search box in Vector does not have the same problem, and previous version did not have it either)