[10:24:29] https://en.wikisource.org/w/index.php?title=Page:The_Innocents_Abroad_(1869).pdf/683&action=edit&redlink=1 slow loading page [10:24:34] Can someone please tell me : [10:24:37] i) What broke [10:24:56] ii) How en.wikisource.org can fix it , so I don't have to have slow page loads in the future? [10:49:58] Loads fast for me, but NoScript blocks loading the image (and who knows what else) [10:50:36] Nemo_bis: Thanks [10:50:46] Naturally I disabled any ad-blockers [10:51:57] If that was in response to my "slow loading image" issues [11:02:14] Of course I received the cache image after you loaded it, so the same URL cannot reproduce your "issue" [19:11:31] I have a question: [19:11:31] I suspect something is wrong with article counting and redirections on srn-wp.. [19:11:31] the stats on the main page seems to count redirections as articles, and here the switch for not counting redirects doesn't work either: https://srn.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Spesyal:AlaPeprewoysi&hideredirects=1 [19:20:27] I don't think all pages has a redirect filter [19:36:26] Reedy: hmm, ok.. but there's a switch in the url, &hideredirects=1.. which I might have gotten from another language version, perhaps? [19:36:43] It's not exposed on the UI [19:36:45] Hmm [19:36:49] Is that a misermode feature? [19:36:50] true [19:37:10] Yup [19:37:10] $hideredirects = $request->getBool( 'hideredirects', false ) && !$miserMode; [19:37:25] I don't know know where I got that URL really.. [19:37:25] ahaa..? [19:37:31] So it won't work on any WMF wiki [19:37:56] ok, alright, misermode is a feature that isn't enableed here [19:38:02] Well, "feature" [19:38:17] It's a way of disabling expensive db queries etc [19:38:34] ;) ok.. I don't know anything about it, so.. ok, alright :) [19:39:51] thank you.. that was 50 % ;) [19:40:08] I'll ask in case you or someone else knows about this too: [19:40:10] And as for the stats... [19:40:23] yes.. [19:40:29] is redirects supposed to be included in {{NUMBEROFARTICLES}}? [19:40:40] I think it varies [19:40:48] Let's have a look [19:40:58] :) [19:41:05] * Method used to determine if a page in a content namespace should be counted [19:41:06] * as a valid article. [19:41:06] * [19:41:06] * Redirect pages will never be counted as valid articles. [19:41:07] Apparently not [19:41:11] But that doesn't mean it's broken [19:41:25] It's also possible the article count has just got skewed [19:41:30] We can fix that though [19:41:37] hmm, ok.. ok! :) [19:41:39] great..! [19:42:00] some sort of cache thing on the server, perhaps? [19:42:33] Counting total edits...37550 [19:42:33] Counting number of articles...1057 [19:42:33] Counting total pages...2617 [19:42:33] Counting number of users...4420 [19:42:34] Counting number of images...0 [19:43:28] ok.. that's unchanged then, so far.. : ) hmm [19:43:43] Hmm [19:44:11] What do you think it should be? [19:44:23] what I've noticed is that when I merge an article.. well, the counter has seemed to go up, by redirects [19:45:10] I can check.. [19:45:31] It's not impossible things are subtley broken [19:48:45] hmm.. I tried to count, pages in the all pages-page (erhm), including redirects, is .. about .. 1276.. so ~ 1057 article-pages is perhaps not unreasonable [19:50:16] so.. it might be working. But I'm confused about the results when I've been merging articles, it has been increasing when I've been thinking it really shouldn't.. [19:54:37] I will keep it under observation ;) to see if I can confirm an error [19:54:37] Reedy: thank you very much so far! [19:55:00] np [19:55:10] It could just be some delayed update stuff using the job queue or similar [19:56:43] aha, yes.. perhaps.. :) though the activity is very low there, but.. not impossible [20:36:44] flinga: https://srn.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Spesyal%3AVoorvoegselindex&prefix=&namespace=0&hideredirects=1&uselang=en − this can be used for checking pages in main namespace (not articles, they are calculated differently) in main namespace. [20:37:30] stjn: okay, thanks! :) [20:37:31] However, e. g. https://srn.wikipedia.org/wiki/(Ageratum_conyzoides)_(Ageratum) is not counted as an article, because it has no internal links in it. [20:37:47] that is one problematic article too [20:39:01] Ah, sorry for duplication in my message, it was meant to be ‘in main namespace (...) without redirects’. [20:39:29] stjn: aha! :) great [20:42:03] 1157 that way.. still reasonable, may be more examples like ageratum.. [20:42:26] *1156, I mean [20:50:23] hmm, I cleaned two articles (not removing them, they're just substubs now), and now the ccounter says 1056 : )