[03:36:01] Anyone around for a quick JS question? I've been having an issue with Twinkle and various other JS scripts not loading in on Firefox, this persists across multiple accounts, IPs, and devices. I know we recently depreciated and removed some old JS bits however if I refresh the page a few times generally everything loads in. Is this related to the JS depreciation or something different? [03:51:57] are you using the twinkle gadget or do you import it via your personal js? [03:57:16] I have tried both (a number of other scripts such as the UTC clock also sometimes do not load in) [03:57:42] And visualfilechanges on Commons only works from the "try this script without installing page" as the links on each page do not work [03:57:56] ^ https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Help:VisualFileChange.js&withJS=MediaWiki:VisualFileChange.js [03:58:24] From asking in the #wikipedia-en channel it appears a number of people are having similar issues [04:01:17] could you link your js page? [04:04:04] Sure, its a bit of a mess but has worked well before (things like the UTC clock are enabled in gadgets) and I did try Twinkle from the gadgets on my account for public computers https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Mifter/monobook.js [04:05:07] Also https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Mifter/common.js [04:26:11] for your monobook.js on enwiki, you could try changing addPortletLink to mw.util.addPortletLink [04:30:01] Thanks, I'll try that [04:52:11] Hello, [04:52:40] I have not been able to use Twinkle, page curator, and other tools today. Is there some sort of issue? [17:49:27] Hi there. I'm having some issues accessing the Recent Changes on ro.wp [17:49:41] I either get a blank page or a 503 error [17:49:54] does anyone else have issues? [17:50:08] I disabled all gadgets and personal scripts, no use [17:57:03] strainu_, https://ro.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Schimb%C4%83ri_recente ? [17:57:15] Loads here without any issues. [17:58:32] strainu: https://ro.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Schimb%C4%83ri_recente loads without any issues here. [17:58:53] andre__: thanks, seems related to Advanced recent changes [17:59:12] both https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T164049 and https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T164059 came to my mind, but they sound totally unrelated [17:59:25] only one is 503 and only the other one is recent changes [17:59:50] it's likely something local, on en.wp and fr.wp andvanced recent changes works [18:03:24] strainu, MediaWiki:Common.js is broken [18:03:45] line 98 is: var isDiff = (mw.util.getParamValue('diff') != null); [18:04:04] has to be fixed, see https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/ResourceLoader/Developing_with_ResourceLoader#Client-side_.28dynamically.29 [18:05:21] strainu, and same for jsmsg in MediaWiki:Gadget-morebits.js [18:05:40] thanks, [18:05:46] I'll look into those [18:06:01] not sure if that influences the original problem though :) [18:12:42] andre__: In morebits, shouldn't dependencies be declared in the gadget definition? [18:12:57] strainu: I'd guess so, yeah [18:13:05] you know best :D [18:15:55] yeah, no change [18:16:45] the 503 error seems to indicate a server issue, and I don't seem to get to any JS anyway [18:17:25] the console shows 0 bytes transfered [18:19:37] Hey tech people, I need help with beginners programming material in wikimedia projects [18:20:46] an Angolan 12 year old is asking me and I just cant say no to this, he can read Portuguese and English well [18:45:48] chicocvenancio: Start at https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/How_to_become_a_MediaWiki_hacker For suitable tasks see the "annoying little bugs" section link on that page :) [18:47:59] thanks, that helped he was looking more for JS due to gadgets (he has been tinkering with them on his own without even a notebook, or internet beyond wikimedia and facebook) [18:50:24] eddiegp: but the JavaScript_and_CSS section helped [18:54:11] andre__, I have the same problem, it's reported here: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T164059 [18:55:24] Trustable: oh yeah true that one was also about blank/503 (before the task title was changed). Thanks. [18:55:30] * andre__ read too many bug reports yesterday [19:02:07] I can confirm another ‘Empty server response’ report, now from a user at RuWP. What exactly should I ask him to have the most data on the problem? [19:05:09] I. e. that user that was getting an error when editing is not alone, I suppose. [20:03:13] Um, does anyone know what happened to the "[pending edits]" tag for FlaggedRevs on Special:RecentChanges? It only seems to show up when you hide reviewed edits, whereas it showed up all the time before. [20:11:45] https://bs.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posebno:NedavneIzmjene?uselang=en vs https://bs.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Posebno:NedavneIzmjene&hideReviewed=1&uselang=en [20:12:04] I don't think that's by design... [20:14:01] srdjan_m: what exactly are we looking for? [20:15:36] Oh... It just occurred to me that people who aren't in the "editors" group might not be able to see that tag... Just a sec. [20:16:26] srdjan_m: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T164049 [20:17:29] stjn: Oh, great. Thanks. [20:17:36] It is *annoying* for all language editions using PendingRevs, I don’t understand why it’s not streamlined further than May 9. [20:18:56] Maybe it’s some MW release system, to be fair, but it should be fixed as soon as possible, not just somewhere along the way. [20:20:55] Mainly because it is almost turning off reviewing process for the most users in those projects. [20:33:50] stjn: The patch which solves this issue was merged just a few hours back. Unfortunately we have a hard rule not to deploy *anything* on weekends (as WMF staff isn't around to monitor if something wents wrong) except absolute emergency cases (like site outages, major security breaches). And even more unfortunately, there will be the datacenter switchover again in the next week, which is the reason why there will be no deploys in the next week. [20:33:50] So the next date on which *any* deploys will happen is May 8, 13:00-14:00 UTC. [20:35:04] Which is what we should likely do, as rollout on May 9 refers to the normal train, which would mean this will be deployed to group0 on Tuesday May 9, but will reach Wikipedias on Thursday, May 11. [20:35:21] Good to know, I guess, but still. [20:36:11] I just don’t understand how the change into FlaggedRevs could’ve been made when the developer clearly didn’t checked the major flaw of his code. [20:45:52] Due to the wikipedia ban on Turkey. We created wiki mirrors. [20:45:52] en.akademik.info [20:45:52] tr.akademik.info [20:45:52] I just want to inform all. [21:05:09] eddiegp: since you’ve worked with lisawinegar on her issue, is there a task on Phabricator about it? [21:06:40] It is repeating on this article in Russian Wikipedia: https://ru.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Проект_«Раковый_геном»&action=history to user Элен Теванян, so I thought you should know. [21:06:46] stjn: Nope, no task. We weren't able to track it down in any way. [21:08:10] I have managed to get at least some browser info from her, should I file it? [21:09:49] But it isn’t MobileFrontend bug as was mentioned earlier... [21:10:11] We thought it was somehow transient. It did work for her on the desktop site with both visual editor and wikitext editor, and by trying it again she was even able to make the changes on the mobile site (where she was experiencing the issue in the first place), again both in visual and wikitext mode. [21:11:41] I mean, filing that task won't do any harm. It's just that I think there won't be a solution soon if we don't have more information on how to reproduce this. But that should not block you from filing a task. [21:12:03] Well, exactly this problem is being reported by other people, so I guess it has some roots to it. [21:12:16] OK. [21:13:03] Where were those other people experiencing it (mobile/desktop, visual/wikitext)? That would be helpful information to track it down. And yeah, browser information might help. [21:14:26] stjn: Send me that task number when you've filed it, I've got information about her OS/browser setup here, asked her to give that to me in case we'd need it later. [21:21:21] https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T72010 Btw, maybe it’s this? I will file another task since it’s some old import, but still. [21:23:10] eddiegp: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T164157