[00:14:58] <bd808>	 Dragonfly6-7: #mediawiki-visualeditor or https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/project/profile/483/
[00:19:32] <Dragonfly6-7>	 thank you
[12:17:41] <jem>	 Urbanecm: Thanks for the eswiki HD logo :), and I just noted two minor problems in that InitialiseSettings.php section: dawiki and dewiki are out of their order, and the comment says "Wikipeda" (missing second i); how to proceed about that?
[12:18:34] <Urbanecm>	 jem, thank you for your notice. I'll fix it, it'll be deployed at 14:00 UTC. 
[12:18:56] <jem>	 :) Np, excellent then
[14:12:06] <Nemo_bis>	 is memcached especially unhappy? I got three "Sorry! We could not process your edit due to a loss of session data. " in a row
[14:12:17] <Nemo_bis>	 six
[16:21:35] <snitch>	 [[Tech]]; VictorPorton; /* How to trace while developing a MediaWiki extension? */ new section; https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?diff=16205458&oldid=16202367&rcid=8768475
[16:56:34] <Dispenser>	 Anyone with CSV experience?  I'm looking to pack up often requested data for idiots.
[16:56:36] <Dispenser>	 Q: Best practices for splitting 5+ million article data into Excel 1 million row limit
[16:58:42] <mutante>	 one spreadsheet can have multiple tabs.. eh i mean, one .xls can have many sheets, right
[17:01:34] <Dispenser>	 How's multiple csv files.  I looked at spiting them A-B, C-E, etc. but S is 1,123,835 on enwiki.  Just randomly split it?
[17:02:19] <mutante>	 i think you would start using the next character
[17:02:24] <mutante>	 Sa, Sb, Sc
[17:03:11] <andre__>	 use a command line tool to split into a new file after one million lines?
[17:03:50] <andre__>	 tell people to use spreadsheet software that can handle more than one million lines?
[17:04:17] <Dispenser>	 Exporting a SQL into CSV requires writing a program
[17:05:42] <Dispenser>	 These people are idiots.  It needs to brain dead simple and provide lots of related fields because they can't use SQL.
[17:06:27] <andre__>	 so write your program?
[17:06:41] <andre__>	 and enjoy continuing insulting other people. Cheers. :)
[17:07:58] <mutante>	 Dispenser: the program can consist of something like this:   SELECT .. INTO OUTFILE .. FIELDS TERMINATED BY ',' .. ENCLOSED BY ',
[17:08:06] <mutante>	 LINES TERMINATED BY '\n';
[17:08:15] <Dispenser>	 When they hit my webserver 40,000 to write an article, I think insulting is justified
[17:09:00] <Dispenser>	 mutante: Already tried that, IIRC it stalled
[17:09:39] <Dispenser>	 also tried mysqldump, write non-sql files on both client and server
[17:09:39] <mutante>	 also, afair  mysql -X  gives you XML output and then you can use various XML2CSV tools
[17:09:52] <mutante>	 dont think you really have to reinvent stuff here
[17:10:54] <mutante>	 did it stall because of the "INTO OUTFILE" part? does it work with just regular SELECT? 
[17:11:01] <Dispenser>	 yes
[17:11:21] <mutante>	 maybe permissions?  try writing into /tmp 
[17:11:38] <mutante>	 the mysql service user must be able to write there, so probably cant do a /home
[17:11:53] <Dispenser>	 ERROR 1045 (28000): Access denied for user 'u2815'@'%' (using password: YES)
[17:12:11] <mutante>	 well that is unrelated
[17:12:24] <Dispenser>	 INTO OUTFILE '/tmp/tempdata.csv'
[17:12:40] <Dispenser>	 LIMIT 1
[17:13:21] <mutante>	 GRANT FILE ON database.* to 'u2815'@'%'
[17:13:24] <Dispenser>	 Its < 20 lines in python and less buggy
[17:13:47] <mutante>	 it's one line in SQL and a config change to allow it to write files
[17:13:53] <mutante>	 not gonna argue, good luck
[18:42:55] <snitch>	 [[Tech]]; Ruslik0; /* "This page is using the deprecated ResourceLoader module" */; https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?diff=16205652&oldid=16205458&rcid=8768766
[18:50:40] <Thiemo_WMDE>	 matt_flaschen: I would like to look into some of the things mentioned for the reading team. E.g. "TemplateStyles". "additional information to file and user pages".
[18:51:10] <Thiemo_WMDE>	 Uh, you may be the wrong ping for these. ;-)
[18:51:36] <matt_flaschen>	 Thiemo_WMDE, yeah, sorry.  I didn't catch who the Reading rep was today.
[18:51:50] <matt_flaschen>	 I'm on Collaboration, which is part of Editing.
[18:52:31] <Thiemo_WMDE>	 I just realized. Wanted to ask Gergő Tisza.
[18:53:03] <matt_flaschen>	 He is tgr.
[18:53:56] <tgr>	 Thiemo_WMDE: I'll add ticket numbers in a sec
[18:54:10] <Thiemo_WMDE>	 Ah, there are you. :-) Thanks!
[19:20:53] <tgr>	 Thiemo_WMDE: done, sent a mail asking reading teams to review
[19:22:11] <tgr>	 re: TemplateStyles, we don't have a specific phab task for it but a.nomie is working on rewriting the CSS parser currently
[19:31:44] <Thiemo_WMDE>	 tgr: Thanks a lot!