[04:39:45] thedj , assigned T137812 to you since you appear to be the only member of the categorytree project [04:39:46] T137812: Add preferences ability to view categorytree with "all" mode. - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T137812 [07:01:08] arseny92: I replied. [08:25:54] arseny92: it is highly recommended not to assign tasks to people unless they actively indicate they are working on it, so it doesn't give the wrong impression to other users [08:55:59] [[Tech]]; Mudasir18; /* Wikipedia */ new section; https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?diff=16037073&oldid=16029358&rcid=8493136 [14:48:24] hello [14:48:40] im noob and search help to make a upgrade [14:48:47] 1.26.2 to 1.27.1 [14:48:59] no use console but tarball [14:54:13] Zer00Cool, https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Upgrading [15:01:40] :D Ok i have see, i test to have a good issue, in french language, sorry, not easy. [15:11:27] ...and #mediawiki is a better place to ask. :) [15:11:48] Zer00Cool, https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Upgrading/fr [15:13:18] hum, ok thanks for this ressource. [19:12:26] p858snake , "since you appear to be the only member of the categorytree project" you imply to not assign also in that case? [20:37:19] arseny92, correct. Being a "member" of a project in phabriactor doesn't have any formal implications/expectations. (Some people just add themselves to indicate interest, or as a searching assistant.) [20:48:23] (Assignee of a task is meant to be a person working on a task. If you do not know that a person will work on a task, you should not set that person as assignee.) [20:48:45] ok, opened it up for grabs [20:51:09] however unassigning automatically subscribed him, and yes I tried to check that via viewing the subscriber list, doesn't let to not subscribe when unassigning [20:53:00] feel free to unsubscribe him if he wasn't subscribed beforehand [20:54:59] like i was removing from assignees and he was just moved to CC instead - and before clicking save i checked the cc subscribers field but it wasn't indicating it's going to auto subscribe [20:55:55] https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T137812#2774159 done as one action [20:56:22] without indicating it would be doing so [20:57:17] Correct. [20:57:24] that's how it works. [20:58:29] also [20:59:46] arseny92: Phabricator does indicate that it will be doing so, in the preview below the comment field. [21:00:32] However, that is not the case if you used "Edit" in the upper right corner instead. [21:01:24] im not sure if https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T137812#2773542 this action is valid as can be seen prior, i added Site-requests and moved it to "blocked on development" which appear to be the correct action because IKhitron expresses this inconvenience concern locally on hewiki [21:02:36] arseny92: prior of what? [21:02:47] what is the actual question you have? [21:03:01] Yes, I've seen the preview, what I mean it didn't provide way to avoid that (unassigning without adding to cc) [21:03:24] ah [21:03:31] https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T137812#2773515 [21:03:45] yeah, requires an extra action. Idea is that a previous assignee likely is interested in how the task continues to evolve. [21:03:51] = feature. [21:08:56] what question - two questions : the first is this assigning question and the second is the purpose of "Blocked on development" since it appears eranroz removed it without checking the place on the board (not sure hows that possible to miss as its indicated on the task log) [21:09:39] I don't know what the "assigning question is". [21:09:59] What is "it" in "removed it"? [21:10:02] unassigning* [21:10:19] but if you have questions, feel free to phrase questions. :) [21:13:58] arseny92: The purpose of "blocked on development" inside of the "Wikimedia-Site-requests" set up is to indicate that a community of a certain site requested a configuration change (hence the name "Wikimedia-Site-requests") but the request cannot be fulfilled because no existing code offers the requested functionality. [21:14:10] arseny92, I'm not sure if that answers your question though :) [21:14:14] my point with me doing https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T137812#2773515 (Added Site-requests, moved to blocked on development) was that since hewiki wants a preferences option it has to be on site-requests, but the feature is not implemented. Then eranroz came and removed the siterequests project as you can see. [21:14:56] arseny92: where does "hewiki wants a preferences option"? [21:15:07] Link welcome for your statement. [21:15:44] https://he.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=%D7%95%D7%99%D7%A7%D7%99%D7%A4%D7%93%D7%99%D7%94%3A%D7%A4%D7%99%D7%AA%D7%95%D7%97_%D7%94%D7%AA%D7%A9%D7%AA%D7%99%D7%AA&type=revision&diff=19564864&oldid=19563551 [21:17:38] arseny92: I fail to see any community discussion and consensus in the link that you provided. Could you clarify? [21:18:31] arseny92: I only see a normal conversation between some community members, but nothing that is a configuration change request by a community. [21:18:43] For comparison: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requesting_wiki_configuration_changes [21:19:03] stating "Gather local on-wiki community consensus for the change" [21:24:00] The conversation is about that task. IKhitron says that without prefs option its not convenient (As you have to either urlhack &mode=x on Special:CategoryTree or select the tree view mode manually each time you open the categorytree page) and thats why he requested the prefs feature with this task months ago. What I initially said there is asking if the task is still relevant, IKhitron [21:24:00] says it is. [21:30:07] andre__ [21:30:42] arseny92: yeah, none of that makes it a Wikimedia-Site-Request though. [21:30:54] arseny92, as there is no request by a community. [21:31:15] "some community members" are hewiki sysops and a crat [21:31:25] *except me [21:32:21] arseny92: if you think that there was a community consensus, feel free to link to the community consensus in the description of a Phabricator task. [21:32:33] I still don't see any community voting in the link that you provided. [21:32:50] and https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requesting_wiki_configuration_changes explains what is expected. [21:33:13] there is a difference berween voting and a discussion [21:33:30] *shrug* [21:34:20] Basically: if you don't mention to anybody in your Phab task that it's a community request, someone will likely remove the tag in the Phab task that states it's a community request. :P [21:34:36] see the link I posted twice. [21:37:22] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3EsJLNGVJ7E & https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/15893, http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-foundation-idUSKBN12Z2SL & https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/3774 (ctrl+f qatar) - please don't let these be buried