[00:03:45] <MatmaRex>	 bd808: contrary to popular belief, none of us know anything about thumbnailing. all of the backend people were taken away from the Multimedia team in the last reorg.
[00:03:57] <MatmaRex>	 bd808: have the logs been any more useful?
[00:04:29] <Reedy>	 [01:04:05] <Revent> ^ yannf’s error, mentioned above… the image is 183 megapixels, ‘well’ above $wgMaxImageArea
[00:04:34] <bd808>	 MatmaRex: *nod* but you can learn ;) I can't find anything useful int eh thumbnail.log on fluorine
[00:04:36] <Reedy>	 so basically, MW won't
[00:04:44] <Reedy>	 "no too big, won't thumb"
[00:04:53] <Reedy>	 I keep perioidically bumping the number
[00:04:55] <MatmaRex>	 Reedy: the previous version of that file had a thumbnail though.
[00:05:21] <Reedy>	 True
[00:05:39] <MatmaRex>	 bd808: sure, but at the moment, at least i am not very useful in resolving this
[00:06:00] * bd808 nerd snipes Reedy so he can get back to "real work"
[00:06:15] <Reedy>	 I'm going to bed :)
[00:06:21] <Reedy>	 The file size is also much larger
[00:06:42] <MatmaRex>	 ask aaron or gilles, or somebody with production access who can run whatever the relevant command is and see what happens when you do :)
[00:07:05] <bd808>	 ah. maybe his color filitering needed some followup compression steps
[00:17:15] <robla>	 bd808: I'm curious if I'm reading the diff on https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/315607/ right....did you accidentally remove people like brion?
[00:18:04] <Reedy>	 "what has brion ever done for us!?"
[00:21:38] <Krenair>	 Brion's name contains a B robla 
[00:21:47] <Krenair>	 the grep -v '[BOT]' removes him
[00:22:15] <brion>	 Bahahaa
[00:22:16] <robla>	 ohhhhh, well, that'll do it
[00:22:44] <Krenair>	 -F should fix it
[00:22:46] * robla is glad he didn't choose to go by "Bob"
[00:23:21] <Krenair>	 Tim also isn't there :)
[00:28:24] <robla>	 bd808 notes "You would think I would have noticed that it removed me too :/"
[00:28:29] <Krenair>	 it's missing 109 people
[00:28:33] <Krenair>	 hah
[00:30:44] <bd808>	 So is it missing others that were manually added because they don't have git commits?
[00:31:08] <bd808>	 like "Zachary Hauri"
[00:31:15] <Krenair>	 I suspect it used to include extensions/skins
[00:31:27] <Krenair>	 SVN contained everything in a single repo
[00:33:53] <robla>	 Seems very plausible
[00:34:50] <robla>	 it seems better to use the existing file as a base, and then make eliminations a more deliberate act
[00:34:53] <Krenair>	 But in this particular case:
[00:34:55] <Krenair>	 042a49ab (Raimond Spekking     2010-03-13 11:42:04 +0000 253) * Zachary Hauri
[00:34:59] <Krenair>	 http://mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/63672
[00:35:27] <Krenair>	 It was a patch contributor: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T14797
[00:35:30] <bd808>	 author of the CommentPages extension
[00:35:57] <Krenair>	 you used to have to upload patches to bugzilla and get someone with commit access (a developer) to commit them to SVN
[00:36:06] <bd808>	 *nod*
[00:36:44] <bd808>	 so we could have a file of "legacy" contributors to mix in with the git-log generated list I suppose
[00:36:50] <Krenair>	 yes
[00:37:44] <robla>	 the script *could* even be an "update" script rather than building from zero
[00:38:46] <bd808>	 if there was a proper script, yup. Maybe I should just add a maintenance script instead of all the weird instructions.
[00:39:13] <bd808>	 and split the patch to first collapse the existing list into a single set of names
[00:39:35] <bd808>	 that will make the diff easier to check
[00:39:51] <robla>	 nice!  yeah, that makes sense
[11:24:23] <pietrodn>	 I get this error on all Wikimedia domains. GlobalSign certificate is marked as expired on Chrome, Safari on macOS Sierra. Works with Firefox though. https://twitter.com/pawelkaroluk/status/786494364289634304
[11:24:40] <pietrodn>	 it says that the connection with Wikipedia is not secure
[11:25:25] <hoo>	 pietrodn: Check your computer's system date
[11:25:58] <pietrodn>	 hoo: it's current.
[11:26:21] <hoo>	 Check also the year
[11:26:22] <pietrodn>	 on Twitter other people have problems with GlobalSign certificates
[11:26:36] <pietrodn>	 2016-10-13 13:26 CEST
[11:27:09] <pietrodn>	 all right on iPhone instead. Friends of mine also report that it's working.
[11:28:12] <pietrodn>	 GlobalSign acknowledged the problem https://www.globalsign.com/en/status/
[12:37:45] <Nemo_bis>	 ciao pietrodn 
[13:21:55] <pietrodn>	 Ciao Nemo_bis!
[14:15:22] <sarahlicity>	 should i be having problems connecting to Wikipedia?
[14:15:32] <sarahlicity>	 Getting a "Safari could not make a secure connection" error.
[14:16:37] <Reedy>	 What version of OSX? Where in the world are you?
[14:17:21] <sarahlicity>	 Sierra, Leeds UK
[14:17:29] <sarahlicity>	 university campus, if it makes any difference
[14:17:42] <Reedy>	 So, I think there are some known SSL issues atm
[14:17:47] <Reedy>	 sarahlicity: I'm actually in Morley atm ;)
[14:17:50] <_joe_>	 sarahlicity: it could, in theory
[14:23:36] <paravoid>	 sarahlicity: we are on it
[14:24:07] <paravoid>	 sarahlicity: thanks for pinging us :) we are working on resolving the situation in any way we can (this is an externally-triggered failure) and also notifying users appropriately via social channels
[14:24:34] <sarahlicity>	 awesome. :)
[14:24:58] <sarahlicity>	 ordinarily i'd assume somebody messed up the HSTS configuration, you know? :p
[14:30:56] <_joe_>	 sarahlicity: that's not the case, in fact I am starting to think it's OS-dependent
[14:31:28] <_joe_>	 as in, I have one mac with sierra and one with el capitan and el capitan is fine, sierra is showing the error
[14:32:03] <Reedy>	 I'm on sierra, and it's fine
[14:32:11] <Reedy>	 but am on 10.12.1 beta 3
[14:59:54] <sjoerddebruin>	 Getting the same error for wmflabs.org
[15:02:31] <mark>	 are you using mac osx Sierra?
[15:03:00] <sjoerddebruin>	 Jep
[15:12:35] <Srdjan_m>	 Is it possible to customize the way MW handles signatures on a certain project?
[15:15:50] <Reedy>	 Srdjan_m: in what way?
[15:16:45] <Srdjan_m>	 Reedy: well, can it use the genitive case for the month it displays?
[15:17:18] <Reedy>	 Srdjan_m: You might be better asking in #mediawiki-i18n
[15:17:18] <Srdjan_m>	 that's what the Croatian Wiki would like anyway.
[16:16:57] <DatGuy>	 Hello, could test.wikipedia.org be updated to the latest version to see if a bug is fixed?
[16:19:56] <robla>	 DatGuy: test.wikipedia.org is part of the normal deploy train process; it's not something that should get updated manually.  Beta cluster might be what you want, though.
[16:20:08] <robla>	 DatGuy: what's the bug you're looking to test?
[16:20:11] <DatGuy>	 Special:NewPagesFeed doesn't exist in beta cluster
[16:20:13] <DatGuy>	 https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T147721
[16:22:30] * robla is looking around to see where NewPagesFeed is deployed
[16:26:37] <robla>	 DatGuy: found it: https://test.wikimedia.beta.wmflabs.org/wiki/Special:NewPagesFeed
[16:27:00] <DatGuy>	 So I may test on that?
[16:27:07] <robla>	 please do!
[16:28:33] <robla>	 DatGuy: I'm assuming your testing isn't some highly automated test that is likely to generate an abnormal amount of load, right?
[16:28:36] <DatGuy>	 Hmm are you sure it's updated?
[16:28:42] <DatGuy>	 Nope :D
[16:28:42] * robla looks
[16:28:44] <DatGuy>	 https://test.wikimedia.beta.wmflabs.org/wiki/Test_for_NPP
[16:28:47] <DatGuy>	 https://test.wikimedia.beta.wmflabs.org/wiki/Special:NewPagesFeed
[16:29:34] <robla>	 https://test.wikimedia.beta.wmflabs.org/wiki/Special:Version
[16:30:51] <DatGuy>	 https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/315454/
[16:30:52] <DatGuy>	 not sure?
[16:33:09] <pietrodn>	 still unable to access Wikipedia from Chrome on macOS Sierra for hours, same GlobalSign issue of revoked cert
[16:33:34] <paravoid>	 pietrodn: yeah, we're working on it
[16:33:40] <robla>	 DatGuy: I'd have to dig a little deeper in order to figure it out.  My hunch is that the patch is deployed, but the bug still isn't fixed 
[16:33:53] <DatGuy>	 Should I add the comment?
[16:34:30] <robla>	 DatGuy: yeah, please do.  I'm curious what the answer is.
[16:35:03] <robla>	 I admittedly am not 100% sure if the patch is actually deployed to that instance
[16:37:58] <pietrodn>	 paravoid: thanks
[16:37:59] <DatGuy>	 robla may I ping your phab account?
[16:37:59] <robla>	 DatGuy: by all means
[16:37:59] <DatGuy>	 Is it @robla ?
[16:38:00] <robla>	 @RobLa-WMF in this case
[16:38:46] <DatGuy>	 Alright, thanks
[16:39:27] <Zppix>	 mark can you set status to up with SSL errors please (current bug that is ack by -operations)
[16:39:36] <volans>	 pietrodn: if you need to access you can use Firefox for now
[16:39:49] <mark>	 in the topic here you mean? sure
[16:39:53] <Zppix>	 yes
[16:39:57] <Zppix>	 thanks!
[16:41:37] <Zppix>	 If anyone here is having issues with access to wikipedia and other wikimedia ran sites please let us know!
[17:03:34] <greg-g>	 DatGuy: no, not wmf employees, actual Phabricator Administrators
[17:04:04] <greg-g>	 https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/people/query/Cl4VsSngEUn7/#R
[17:04:19] <greg-g>	 (they happen to be WMF employees, but that's not the criteria :) )
[17:04:21] <DatGuy>	 ah
[17:04:39] <greg-g>	 we're just the people who maintain Phabricator :)
[17:08:26] <pietrodn>	 More detailed GlobalSign explanation of the problem https://twitter.com/globalsign/status/786612660397715456
[17:17:04] <Krenair>	 greg-g, didn't jeremyb used to be a phab admin?
[17:17:24] <greg-g>	 don't remember that
[17:24:17] <pietrodn>	 GlobalSign issue: this procedure fixed the problem with Safari on macOS Sierra (but not Chrome) http://apple.stackexchange.com/a/257112/33925
[17:24:34] <paravoid>	 we are in the process of deploying a fix
[17:24:55] <pietrodn>	 well, it fixed it also on Chrome after a restart :)
[17:26:24] <paravoid>	 pietrodn: thanks, useful information
[17:39:01] <paravoid>	 update: we've rolled out an SSL certificate fix for the production wikis
[17:43:17] <Zppix>	 ok
[17:43:26] <paravoid>	 let us know if you're still seeing issues