[08:21:06] <legoktm>	 topic is locked now? :(
[08:34:19] <p858snake|_>	 legoktm: ugh no idea why that was set
[08:34:29] <p858snake|_>	 legoktm: we should get you added to the access list anyway
[08:36:17] <Glaisher>	 A cross channel troll was modifying the topic
[08:36:25] <Glaisher>	 that was some weeks ago
[12:13:05] <Steinsplitter>	 https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Tags/delete&tag=image%20annotation   Tags defined by an extension cannot be deleted unless the extension specifically allows it.
[12:13:05] <Steinsplitter>	   uh :/ it isn't
[16:55:19] <DanielK_WMDE>	 anomie: would you have another look at the getRuTime thing? https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/305649/
[16:56:10] <DanielK_WMDE>	 I think you'd be the most qualified to +2 this. Or at leasdt +1, sone one of us can +2.
[16:56:30] <DanielK_WMDE>	 I'd like to know you are ok with this before merging it.
[16:56:34] <anomie>	 DanielK_WMDE: Hoo fixed the one thing I complained about. "I don't see any real problems with this change, but I'd still like to know what is causing the parts of the code that normally take 0.001s to take over 0.500s for your tests." still stands, but I won't -1 over that.
[16:57:22] <DanielK_WMDE>	 yea, something made it go slow...
[16:57:48] <DanielK_WMDE>	 anomie: thanks! i'll comment to that effect
[17:02:07] <ToAruShiroiNeko>	 ello
[17:02:08] <ToAruShiroiNeko>	 http://imgur.com/a/NzsIX
[17:02:17] <ToAruShiroiNeko>	 can you help me identify what is triggering this?
[17:03:24] <MatmaRex>	 ToAruShiroiNeko: hey
[17:03:30] <bd808>	 tehre's a abusefilter rule that is rejecting your upload. I don't have rights to figure out why precisely though.
[17:03:50] <MatmaRex>	 ToAruShiroiNeko: the bug where you don't see the real error message is https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T144237 . let me find the error message you should be seeing
[17:03:52] <ToAruShiroiNeko>	 I am a commons admin
[17:04:00] <mutante>	 what's behind the "more info" link?
[17:04:14] <Cameron11598>	 mutante: It was the dialog in the second image
[17:04:31] <MatmaRex>	 ToAruShiroiNeko: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Abusefilter-warning-copyv2
[17:04:52] <MatmaRex>	 ToAruShiroiNeko: this is Commons' filter 156, IIRC. mostly it's meant to reject low-quality JPG images by new users
[17:04:56] <ToAruShiroiNeko>	 so it thinks its a copyvio?
[17:04:59] <Cameron11598>	 MatmaRex: I did take the picture my self
[17:05:05] <Cameron11598>	 :(
[17:05:22] <ToAruShiroiNeko>	 ah you were here
[17:05:32] <MatmaRex>	 https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:AbuseFilter/156
[17:05:55] <MatmaRex>	 Cameron11598: this is only a warning. if you click "Retry failed uploads", they should go through
[17:05:58] <ToAruShiroiNeko>	 Cameron11598 how many comomons edits do you have?
[17:06:24] <MatmaRex>	 Cameron11598: why is the image so small though? i guess the photo was taken with 2008 technology ;)
[17:06:25] <Cameron11598>	 Now it let me!
[17:06:33] <ToAruShiroiNeko>	 yay
[17:06:35] <ToAruShiroiNeko>	 fixed
[17:06:42] <ToAruShiroiNeko>	 I did positively nothing to fix it :p
[17:06:51] <Cameron11598>	 MatmaRex: 2008 was when I uploaded it originally to my computer
[17:06:56] <Cameron11598>	 I took it on an old digital camera
[17:07:05] <Cameron11598>	 And Couldn't remember the date I took it
[17:07:07] <MatmaRex>	 yeah. it's just a warning. but the message is not shown correctly in UploadWizard (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T144237), i'm working on a fix :(
[17:07:20] <MatmaRex>	 you should be seeing this, or similar: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Abusefilter-warning-copyv2
[17:07:21] <ToAruShiroiNeko>	 MatmaRex okay
[17:07:36] <Cameron11598>	 mutante: Btw it prevent sup load when in a batch of multiple images
[17:07:42] <Cameron11598>	 It kept giving the same error
[17:08:25] <Cameron11598>	 *upload
[19:34:58] <Pine>	 Does anyone know if Template:Ping works on every wiki, or merely on many of them?
[19:38:03] <quiddity>	 Pine, it only exists on some of them. https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q14635514#sitelinks-wikipedia  Plus it might not function the same everywhere (I assume it does, but no way to verify except manually). If you want to reliably Mention someone, either check the local template, or just use a plain [[user:Foo]] link. (That's all the ping template is, usually. A plaintext @, plus a [[User:Foo|Foo]] link, plus a :)
[19:40:31] <Pine>	 quiddity: thanks. I was hoping to avoid needing to mention that longer way of doing a mention, but such is life. That's a good wikidata item to note, so thanks for the link.
[19:41:56] <quiddity>	 Pine, oh, for your videos?  Yeah, if it needs to be a universally applicable standard, for potential translation/usage in all languages, then plain userlinks are the thing to specify.
[19:42:23] <quiddity>	 and Wikidata does indeed rock.
[19:42:28] <sjoerddebruin>	 <3
[19:46:10] <Pine>	 I originally was going to mention Wikidata only tangentially but I decided to integrate it a little more, which I'm glad I did now that you mention this useful info.
[19:47:09] <Pine>	 Eventually I'd like to do a full module, or maybe more than one, about Wikidata. Perhaps that will happen in a future grant.
[19:52:28] <Pine>	 quiddity: one more question. Echo notifications are only refreshed when a user changes, pages right? As in, notifications aren't pushed in realtime between a user's page loads.
[19:52:37] <quiddity>	 correct
[19:54:43] <Pine>	 quiddity: is there a bot anywhere that automatically responds to talk page posts or echo pings? I want newbies to get practice with using pings and talk page posts, and having a bot respond to them might be more practical than waiting for humans to respond.
[19:56:28] <quiddity>	 Pine, not that I know of. 
[19:56:38] <Pine>	 Hmm. I might need to make one. Thanks.
[22:06:00] <TimStarling>	 Krinkle: I have some ideas but I don't really know how they will go once they are fleshed out
[22:07:25] <TimStarling>	 got to go, I'll write on phabricator later