[08:28:26] <mardetanha>	 can someone please take a look at this https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T141753 , very very important for us
[08:34:30] <MatmaRex>	 mardetanha: can you add some more information on this bug? what sitenotice is that?
[08:35:19] <MatmaRex>	 mardetanha: and how is it supposed to look when it worse? do note that not everyone speaks farsi, we need pictures :)
[08:35:20] <mardetanha>	 MatmaRex: what different does it make, the issue is that it doesn't show proprly, it goes to buttom of any pages
[08:35:26] <mardetanha>	 while it should be on top of them
[08:35:39] <mardetanha>	 MatmaRex: I have added picutre
[08:35:43] <mardetanha>	 just go to fawiki
[08:35:45] <mardetanha>	 log out
[08:35:51] <MatmaRex>	 mardetanha: i don't see any problems when i do that
[08:35:53] <mardetanha>	 and look at what you see down the page
[08:35:58] <MatmaRex>	 i see a similar sitenotice at the top
[08:36:07] <mardetanha>	 when logged in it is correct
[08:36:12] <mardetanha>	 when loged out it is not ok
[08:36:28] <p858snake>	 It is working for me
[08:36:34] <mardetanha>	 eg https://fa.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D8%A8%D8%A7%D8%A8%D8%A7%D8%AE%D8%A7%D9%86
[08:36:46] <mardetanha>	 it can't work for you
[08:36:49] <mardetanha>	 purge you cache
[08:37:23] <MatmaRex>	 it works
[08:37:24] <MatmaRex>	 so
[08:37:31] <MatmaRex>	 at least, i think it does
[08:37:36] <MatmaRex>	 because it's not clear when the problem is
[08:37:39] <MatmaRex>	 (i commented on the task)
[08:38:10] <mardetanha>	 https://www.photobox.co.uk/my/photo?album_id=4334376998&photo_id=9269423834#9269423834
[08:38:53] <MatmaRex>	 mardetanha: "You cannot access this album. This album is no longer shared with you."
[08:39:12] <MatmaRex>	 mardetanha: you can upload things to Phabricator by clicking the "cloud" icon on the toolbar when commenting
[08:39:15] <mardetanha>	 updated the bug
[08:39:21] <mardetanha>	 done
[08:40:19] <MatmaRex>	 mardetanha: are you sure this affects more people than just you?
[08:40:33] <mardetanha>	 it was reported by others to me
[08:41:33] <MatmaRex>	 hmm.
[08:41:46] <MatmaRex>	 mardetanha: so this looks like the same issue as https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T125323 . i'm going to merge them
[08:42:19] <mardetanha>	 MatmaRex: I just uploaded another photo from another user with mac
[08:42:29] <mardetanha>	 wierd so we are not the only one affected
[08:43:37] <mardetanha>	 might be a sever glitch or some something
[08:43:43] <mardetanha>	 now it is fixed for me too
[08:45:17] <MatmaRex>	 yeah, from reading the bug, this can occur depending on the order in which elements of the page load
[21:02:50] <danmichaelo>	 Hi. What is the best instance for testing file uploading? test.wikipedia.org and test2.wikipedia.org both seem to have file uploading disabled (test2 says I could ask for the autoreview userright, should I do that or use another instance?)
[21:04:22] <greg-g>	 danmichaelo: what is the goal of the testing? What are you trying to test?
[21:06:34] <danmichaelo>	 greg-g: I'm working on https://tools.wmflabs.org/croptool/ , need to test various responses
[21:07:38] <greg-g>	 danmichaelo: you could modify the tool to also look at the Beta Cluster and do test uploads there: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Beta_Cluster
[21:20:08] <MatmaRex>	 test definitely has uploads enabled…
[21:20:29] <MatmaRex>	 and so does test2
[21:20:41] <MatmaRex>	 (beta cluster's Commons is probably the best place though)
[21:24:59] <danmichaelo>	 greg-g: Thx, probably what I was looking for! The self signed certificate causes some problems though
[21:29:02] <danmichaelo>	 When using the beta cluster, can I still use OAuth? https://mediawiki.beta.wmflabs.org/wiki/Special:OAuth is not configured
[21:36:12] <tgr>	 danmichaelo: mediawiki.beta.wmflabs.org is not configured in general
[21:43:42] <Krenair>	 yeah... Domain not configured
[21:44:58] <Krenair>	 https://meta.wikimedia.beta.wmflabs.org/wiki/Special:OAuth :/
[21:45:19] <Krenair>	 I think that wiki should theoretically work for this
[21:45:45] <tgr>	 well, Special:OAuth is not supposed to be used without parameters
[21:45:59] <Krenair>	 yeah I realised that afterwards :)
[21:46:10] <tgr>	 I guess a friendlier error message would be a good thing
[22:52:26] <kaldari>	 gwicke: Do you know exactly what happens when a template is updated as far as page reparsing? My understanding is that we are currently proactively reparsing all the pages that transclude the template rather than just invalidating the caches and waiting for people to request them, due to wanting the RestBase API to have the latest version of the page ready
[22:52:26] <kaldari>	 on demand. Is that accurate?
[22:55:12] <kaldari>	 gwicke`: ^
[22:55:40] <MaxSem>	 kaldari, are you IRCing from a boat? :P
[22:55:49] <kaldari>	 not yet
[23:01:43] <kaldari>	 or maybe subbu knows: ^
[23:02:43] <subbu>	 kaldari, yes .. restbase refreshes stored html on template updates.
[23:05:42] <kaldari>	 subbu: what prevents things from blowing up when a popular template is updated? Is there some sort of throttling or queue for all the refreshes?
[23:07:23] <subbu>	 what do you mean by "blowing up"? that said .. i don't know if restbase is using change propagation events or the job queue these days for refreshing the restbase storage .. but, i am sure both have throttles .. and they also do aggressive de-duplication of jobs.
[23:07:48] <subbu>	 since parsoid came online ... we've been doing this eager updates on template and page edits.
[23:08:00] <kaldari>	 subbu: who would be the best person to ask about it. Need to know more details for the PageAssessments deployment.
[23:08:17] <subbu>	 For restbase, ask in #wikimedia-services.
[23:08:27] <subbu>	 mobrovac, Pchelelo, gwicke ..