[05:31:27] hey, is this a violation of cookie policy? https://fa.wikipedia.org/wiki/مدیاویکی:Watchlist.js?uselang=en [05:31:31] https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Cookie_statement [06:45:40] Amir1: I would recommend filing a ticket in phabricator as its the weekend and most people aren't around [06:46:00] you can make it a private security task if you would prefer [06:46:18] p858snake: yeah, I already sent an email to legal AT wikimedia.org [07:09:47] JEM VETE ALA MIERDA [07:09:49] JEM VETE ALA MIERDA [07:09:51] JEM VETE ALA MIERDA [07:09:52] JEM VETE ALA MIERDA [07:09:53] JEM VETE ALA MIERDA [07:09:54] JEM VETE ALA MIERDA [07:10:27] unfortunately this has become necessary [12:09:26] ohnoes, cremoso === good [13:27:37] cremoso is the ident of the legit user UAwiki [13:27:44] that this troll was impersonating, JD|cloud [13:38:47] Nemo_bis: Yeah, the free MapQuest tile server was serving millions of requests for free. [13:38:58] Kind of crazy that it lasted so long. [13:43:13] Debra: breadcrumbs for AOL! [13:43:46] It's like comparing the fall of a couple lamps in the last deck to the overall shipwreck of the Titanic [13:44:06] Sure, maybe they could have saved some pennies by sparing some precious item, but nobody bothered. [13:46:03] The real fun comes with the Yahoo! takeover. [13:46:29] * Nemo_bis dreams of Mozilla or CreativeCommons buying Flickr for a couple dollars. [13:48:31] BTW, en.wiki articles on mapping stuff are horrible. https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Contributions/Nemo_bis&dir=prev&offset=20160730064423&limit=12&target=Nemo+bis [13:49:07] (Flickr is not considered especially valuable but certain people, one wonders why! http://www.wsj.com/public/resources/documents/yahoopresentation.pdf ) [18:18:11] Hey guys, I'd like to create a template for creating templates! I have books and quite often I reference them using {{rABC}} where ABC is the book's title or ssomething. Because these reference templates are basically the same, I'd like to template them. [18:18:49] However, say we have {{rABC|comment=This text for the reference}} - I am not sure how (I've tried a lot of things) to get a {{{comment}}} into the result of {{rABC}} that will actually be recognised. [18:19:16] For example {{{comment}}} (nowiki tags) wont work, as the tags carry across the second substitution [18:22:19] that looks evil… [18:22:36] Yeah templates suck [18:22:58] Can you see what I mean though? I need to make something that evaluates to {{{comment}}} but isn't the first time [18:23:08] but why? [18:23:15] I did give a usecase.... [18:23:24] can't the first tempalte just pass those parameters to the second? [18:23:28] Pretty much every {{rBOOKNAME}} will be the same template. [18:23:48] ie. rABC to contain: {{rSECONDTEMPLATE|comments={{{comments|}}} }} ? [18:23:51] Yeah if I ennumerate them all, the thing is suppose some time in the future I want to add a parameter, I've gotta change every book! [18:23:57] Hence a template. [18:24:25] If Mediawiki reported unused parameters that'd be great, easy and obvious, but it doesn't/ [18:24:27] magically pass all parameters to the next template without listing them? [18:24:33] not doable with templates [18:24:38] Someone2: i'm afraid this can't be done, you have to pass the parameters like Platonides says [18:24:42] it may be doable with LUA, though [18:24:53] You're sure it's not doable with templates? [18:25:32] For example I tried {{lcb}}{{lcb}}{{lcb}} (left curly bracket) instead, that didn't work - and I really don't know why! [18:25:32] Someone2: i would rather try doing {{r|ABC|comment=This text for the reference}}, and have the Template:R switch what it shows based on the first parameter [18:26:38] Actually.... maybe I could write an eval function of some sort that'd expand given text.... [18:26:41] Someone2: btw, you can include a template based on a parameter – like {{ {{{1}}} |comments={{{comments|}}} }} – that can be helpful here :P [18:26:58] (by write one, I mean create a parser hook that evaluates the 0th argument) [18:30:51] Do you think that'd work? [18:31:11] No because using a template would just substitute the call there. FFS [19:42:24] @ MatmaRex / Platonides what does {{{|safesubst:}}} do in that case? [19:58:40] Hi [19:58:56] Anyone here to help me a bit on quarry.wmflabs ? [19:59:36] what's up? [20:07:29] Hi [20:07:49] Anyone who can help me here on quarry.wmflabs.org ? [20:08:10] ViswaPrabha: It's better if you just ask your actual question :) [20:08:31] Question: Can a query (For eg: https://quarry.wmflabs.org/query/11367) be run automatically on a timer or manually by another user than the one who originally wrote it? Or is there any alternate way to get the same info? [20:09:32] So, if a user forks it, they can run it thsemelves [20:09:48] Not the fork, but the original query number. [20:10:10] Because I will use that particular URL as a feed for the data [20:10:18] Well, a fork would be the same query [20:10:35] yes, but it will be a different query number [20:10:57] AFAIK, there is no "refresh" or similar feature [20:11:01] https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/maniphest/task/edit/form/1/?projects=quarry [20:11:06] I am taking this as a feed input to a Google Spreadsheet [20:11:09] You might want to request that be added :) [20:11:52] The only obvious action, is to create a "tool" on toollabs yourself, run the query as a cronjob, and periodically write the file to a web accessible location [20:12:03] Is there any other channel which will provide me with the same kind of data? (Like PETSCAn or so?) [20:12:49] That's too complicfor a person like me, who is only interested in the data output for some quick statistical use. [20:12:59] complicated* [20:13:15] How often are you needing it to be refreshed? [20:14:13] let us say every hour (Only till 7th July ) for an ongoing editathon [20:14:41] At present, I need to log in myself and manually re-run the query [20:14:58] every hour! That's difficult 24/7 [20:19:30] Am I connected? (have got an unreliable net here) [20:19:45] yes, hi [20:20:08] Thanks [20:24:26] ViswaPrabha: do you even cron? [20:24:41] No! [20:24:52] Sucks for you, get a proper OS. [20:24:59] Not right now, not a real updated techie. [20:25:11] Cron isn't complicated. [20:25:31] You literally open a open a file, write what you want to run and how often, then save. [20:26:09] If you would please, run me a demo [20:26:25] Of Cron? [20:26:45] http://lmgtfy.com/?q=Add%20cron%20job [20:26:59] In fact, I am trying to make a model workflow for any casual Wikimedian (Non-techie) can adapt. [20:27:35] Well to some people Wiki-markup is difficult, yet you've probably managed that! [20:27:55] If adding a script to run and a time interval to run it at is "too technical" for ya, I'm afraid I can't help [20:28:09] used to be a hard core techie two decades back on hard core unix. Can't invest much time on that field anymore. [20:28:21] Haha [20:28:27] So hard core you can't use Cron? [20:28:48] Thanks for your feeling fresh :) [20:29:48] Careful, I'll have Yamla ban you! [20:30:45] I have been running to see someone who can help me for a simple technical solution. [20:30:45] Please do not assume everyone runs a linux terminal. [20:31:18] Well Windows Server has some task-scheduling facilities. [20:31:19] And someone sent me here promising someone can help. [20:31:27] I'm very sorry you got the wrong edition of your OS. [20:31:51] I am not asking a client machine updating a server query [20:32:40] But an http get request that can update without depending upon a particular user [20:32:43] Cron just runs a program, it doesn't care what it does. [20:32:53] wget... [20:34:10] I am really sorry. Thanks for trying to help me. But I don't think I am getting the answer I wanted, here. [20:34:44] Careful ViswaPrabha be rude like that and Yamla will punish you [20:35:04] what [20:35:31] I would rather get off from here without getting further hurt. [20:35:47] Cya [20:35:51] Good luck. [20:36:05] ViswaPrabha: um [20:36:29] ViswaPrabha: i think you should ignore Someone2's ramblings, and just request this feature to be added to Quarry, like Reedy suggested [20:36:59] That's a much better answer, MatmaRex. Thanks. :) [20:37:28] ViswaPrabha: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Talk:Quarry [20:37:31] Although it will take time to get a solution. [20:37:38] So, I will go on my own ways for the time being. [20:37:58] Thanks MatmaRex [20:43:30] ViswaPrabha: reported.