[01:18:18] <Debra>	 This channel is fine.
[01:27:57] <Krenair>	 Too quiet.
[01:27:59] <Krenair>	 Needs more bots.
[01:28:00] * Krenair runs
[01:28:05] <Debra>	 Heh.
[04:48:33] <Poke95>	 What technology does Wikimedia servers use? HDD, SDD, or hybrid?
[04:48:57] <p858snake>	 depends on the server and what its being used for
[04:49:57] <Poke95>	 Ah, but what technology is used most?
[04:50:30] <p858snake>	 historically I would imagine HDD, due to cost and requirements
[04:50:51] <p858snake>	 robh would probably be able to give a more compressive answer
[05:14:01] <ragesoss>	 gah. I just discovered the unpleasant fact that if you query for prop 'links' with a revid instead of a title, the API just gives you the current links for that page rather than the links for the revid you requested.
[05:34:18] <Poke95>	 It's raining users!
[06:24:54] <legoktm>	 ragesoss: action=parse&oldid=#####&prop=links ?
[06:27:54] <ragesoss>	 legoktm: sweet! thanks!
[06:36:26] <legoktm>	 :)
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[07:55:45] <snitch>	 [[Tech]]; ArchiverBot; Bot: Archiving 1 thread (older than 30 days) to [[Tech/Archives/2016]].; https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?diff=15686361&oldid=15686281&rcid=7893224
[11:15:54] <JD|cloud>	 uhm we have a problem, I can't ping Wikimedia sites on either IPv4 or IPv6
[11:16:06] <JD|cloud>	 but I can ping other sites alright over IPv4 and IPv65
[11:16:19] <JD|cloud>	 okay now it's back
[11:16:24] <JD|cloud>	 that was weird
[11:16:31] <Poke95>	 I was about to ping Wikimedia sites...
[11:48:21] <paravoid>	 JD|cloud: if it happens again, run a traceroute
[14:45:22] <ShoeMaker>	 Is there anyone here who can help me learn how to change http://pastebin.com/Ru7fzeUC using $.ajax in a synchronous while loop to continue and count all of the things to (new mw.Api) async on MW1.23LTS, please? Maybe legoktm AzaToth or jackmcbarn ?
[14:50:40] <yurik>	 wiki gurus, how do i chick for a non-missing but empty template param?   In a template, I have  {{{param|400}}},  and in the usage I see  {{mytemplate | param= }}
[14:51:02] <yurik>	 as the result, I get an empty expansion instead of the needed 400
[15:26:42] <b_jonas>	 yurik: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Help:Extension:ParserFunctions#.23if
[15:27:13] <yurik>	 b_jonas, yeah, i was hoping to avoid all that :)  thx!
[15:36:09] <yurik>	 b_jonas, do you know by any chance how i can construct a {{#tag: mytag | optionalBlah=XX }} invocation from a template, such that IIF a parameter {{{blah}}} is set to something, it gets used for "optionalBlah.  If its missing, I used a default value, BUT if its set to an empty string, than the whole optional parameter is NOT set at all?
[15:45:39] <b_jonas>	 yurik: I'm not sure, maybe {{#ifexpr: not ({{#ifeq:{{{blah|a}}}|a|1|0}} and {{#ifeq:{{{blah|b}}}|b|1|0}}) and {{#if:{{{blah}}}}} |<!-- blah is empty -->{{#tag: mytag}}|<!-- blah is missing or nonempty -->{{#tag: mytag |optionalBlah={{{blah|somedefault}}}}}}}
[15:45:51] <b_jonas>	 could work to test if the parameter is missing, but there might be a better way.
[15:46:26] <b_jonas>	 hmm actually
[15:46:32] <b_jonas>	 that's too complicated, you can do simpler I think
[15:47:18] <b_jonas>	 {{#if:{{{blah|1}}}|<!-- missing or nonempty -->{{#tag: mytag |optionalBlah={{{blah|somedefault}}}}}|{{#tag: mytag}}}}
[15:47:25] <b_jonas>	 that should probably work for what you want
[15:47:35] <b_jonas>	 yannf: ^
[19:44:22] <ShoeMaker>	 yurik: What I do is {{#ifeq:{{{param|}}}||400|{{{param|400}}}}}
[19:46:12] <bawolff>	 That's exactly the same as just doing {{{param|400}}}
[19:46:14] <bawolff>	 ?
[19:47:04] <ShoeMaker>	 Not quite.  {{{param|400}}} says if it doesn't exist, then it's 400.  {{#ifeq:{{{param|}}}||400|{{{param|400}}}}} says if it doesn't exist OR is empty, then it is 400.
[19:48:18] <yurik>	 thanks!
[19:49:13] <ShoeMaker>	 Technically, could trim it to {{#ifeq:{{{param|}}}||400|{{{param}}}}} even.
[21:30:34] <Josve05a>	 @wm-bot Matmarex
[21:30:40] <Josve05a>	 @seen Matmarex
[21:30:40] <wm-bot>	 Josve05a: Last time I saw MatmaRex they were quitting the network with reason: Quit: Miranda N/A at 6/9/2016 8:32:06 PM (58m34s ago)
[21:30:47] <Josve05a>	 :/