[12:13:11] <Bishonen>	 Hi guys. This is weird. Wikipedia is still in read-only mode for me, but I see from my watchlist that other people are editing. Not fair. :-(
[12:13:27] <Bishonen>	 Have I alone fallen into a black hole?
[12:14:40] <yannf>	 Bishonen, may be, but a lot of people have fallen with it too ;)
[12:14:55] <Bishonen>	 well, that makes me feel less lonely
[12:15:41] <Bishonen>	 it's been many hours. Do you know why some people are editing? My watchlist looks as busy as ever.
[12:17:00] <yannf>	 Bishonen, if you are speaking about enwiki, no problem to edit for me
[12:17:12] <Bishonen>	 enwiki, yes.
[12:17:47] <Bishonen>	 How do you mean, a lot of people have fallen, then?
[12:18:44] <yannf>	 it's a joke
[12:18:49] <Bishonen>	 oh
[12:19:24] <Bishonen>	 well, if it's just me, I worry I can't just wait for it to be fixed. Any suggestions?
[12:21:42] <Tacsipacsi>	 I could save a null edit on enwiki, but https://hu.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Specal:WhatLinksHere&target=Modul:Navbar&namespace=0&invert=1&uselang=en gave me DB error two or three times (now seems to work)—something like "the DB doesn't respond".
[12:26:30] <Bishonen>	 I've tried to edit my own page. I just get "Secure Connection Failed" and "The connection to en.wikipedia.org was interrupted while the page was loading", "The page you are trying to view cannot be shown because the authenticity of the received data could not be verified" and so on. Whether I try to preview or save. For about six hours.
[12:27:36] <p858snake|L_>	 guillom: ^
[12:28:23] <Bishonen>	 huh? 
[12:28:37] <Tacsipacsi>	 Oh, I get this message sometimes in the last weeks, but if I click "retry", it works. Sometimes the third time, but never more.
[12:29:07] <Bishonen>	 well i've retried some fifty times in different ways. 
[12:29:36] <Bishonen>	 What should I do? Any ideas? Just wait a few days? :-(
[12:30:14] <Bishonen>	 tried a null edit, that won't save either.
[12:31:10] <Bishonen>	 Since you guys can edit and I can't, could one of you ask for me on the Pump, please?
[12:32:23] <Bishonen>	 the WP:Village pump on enwiki
[12:37:17] <Bishonen>	 I see there's a complaint about it from 8 May https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_%28technical%29#Annoying_.22Secure_connection_failed.22
[12:37:20] <Tacsipacsi>	 Ask what?
[12:37:33] <Bishonen>	 but it doesn't seem anything like as severe as my problem
[12:38:28] <Bishonen>	 report my problem, Tacsipacsi and ask if they have any suggestions or information.
[12:38:56] <Bishonen>	 please emphasize that I can't save at all, ever, since many hours back.
[12:39:13] <Bishonen>	 the problem already reported was more of a minor irritation.
[12:39:52] <Bishonen>	 well, anyway. I have to go. bye.
[12:46:11] <Tacsipacsi>	 Bishonen: reported – https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_%28technical%29#Not_able_to_edit
[13:27:44] <Wikignom>	 Hi everyone, I just posted an update and a new question regarding our project to reduce the environmental impact of the Wikimedia movement on wikitech-l: https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikitech-l/2016-May/085631.html I would greatly appreciate any pointers. Thanks!
[18:05:37] <Steinsplitter>	 does somone has a iddea for a workaround for https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T135345 ?
[18:05:48] <Steinsplitter>	 (because i need to set the banner asap)
[18:08:11] <Nemo_bis>	 Steinsplitter: the workaround is to not use a template, but use all the language code subpages of the message
[18:08:57] <Steinsplitter>	 Nemo_bis: how to?
[18:09:39] <Nemo_bis>	 https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=MediaWiki:Sitenotice/de&action=edit etc.
[18:10:36] <Steinsplitter>	 creating hundreds of subpages  mmmh :/ then no banner on :c:
[18:14:10] <Nemo_bis>	 hundreds? do you really have so many translations?
[20:23:13] <yannf>	 what's happening to WD? I have to enter 3 times each value... :/