[08:34:03] yay sanity :) https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikitech-l/2016-March/085083.html [09:21:16] We want to enable flow on our wiki. We already have a consensus. I have requested to enable it. Can someone guide me if anything more required. [09:21:17] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Flow/Request_Flow_on_a_page#Wikis_with_community_consensus_to_enable_Flow_on_user_demand [09:21:56] gyan: Have you created a task on Phabricator? [09:22:01] Yes [09:22:06] It's on backlog [09:22:15] https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T110846 [09:22:47] Ah, okay. Someone will respond there then. [09:23:47] Member are curious to enable it. Can someone take the task please. [09:27:12] Thank You @Glaisher. I have asked because it's more than 6 months but still in backlog. [09:28:12] Oh.. [09:29:42] gyan: I pinged some users who I think can help. [09:29:45] https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T110846#2138276 [09:30:03] Thank You so much. [13:06:47] we still have a huge backlog for jobs [13:07:19] some pages on fr.wikisource were not updated for 10 days [13:07:32] should I open a report? [13:12:28] yannf: Not really [13:12:34] There's only 6 jobs in the job queue [13:12:47] I'd suggest purging a few pages, check they get updated [13:13:17] Reedy, I've already purged x times, no effect [13:13:30] I also tried a null edit, idem [13:14:10] there were 30 M jobs in the queue a few days back... [13:15:09] Example page? [13:15:46] https://fr.wikisource.org/wiki/Livre:Baker_-_Insoumission_%C3%A0_l%27%C3%A9cole_obligatoire,_2006.djvu [13:16:03] there are still 2 pages in yellow which should be green [13:16:14] since 11 Mars [13:16:18] March [13:18:10] https://grafana.wikimedia.org/dashboard/db/job-queue-health I see 71 K jobs in the queue [13:19:00] reedy@tin:~$ mwscript showJobs.php frwikisource --group [13:19:00] cdnPurge: 0 queued; 0 claimed (0 active, 0 abandoned); 3 delayed [13:19:00] enqueue: 1 queued; 0 claimed (0 active, 0 abandoned); 0 delayed [13:19:00] cirrusSearchIncomingLinkCount: 0 queued; 0 claimed (0 active, 0 abandoned); 1 delayed [13:19:00] RestbaseUpdateJobOnEdit: 1 queued; 0 claimed (0 active, 0 abandoned); 0 delayed [13:19:01] MWEchoNotificationEmailBundleJob: 0 queued; 1 claimed (0 active, 1 abandoned); 0 delayed [13:19:03] ah no 33 K [13:19:03] EchoNotificationDeleteJob: 1 queued; 0 claimed (0 active, 0 abandoned); 0 delayed [13:21:25] well, the graph above show something else [13:21:33] *shows [13:22:22] the graph is probably for enwiki [13:22:40] or for all wikis maybe [13:23:18] The graph shows for all wikis [13:23:21] ok, so why this page doesn't update? [13:23:47] reedy@tin:~$ mwscript showJobs.php enwiki [13:23:47] 12595 [13:23:50] That's a 3rd of the queue [13:24:02] reedy@tin:~$ mwscript showJobs.php frwiki [13:24:03] 8654 [13:24:12] That's 20k of 30k [13:25:22] FYI, these pages were corrected on 11 March, when there was a huge job queue [13:25:50] and at that time 1/3 of the pages didn't update in the index [13:26:00] now there are only 2 left [13:26:14] https://fr.wikisource.org/wiki/Livre:Baker_-_Insoumission_%C3%A0_l%27%C3%A9cole_obligatoire,_2006.djvu [13:26:18] That is up to date now [13:28:13] weird, I purged my cache, and it doesn't change [13:28:43] Oh, no colours appear again [13:28:47] That's unhelpful [13:29:20] and that's the same on another browser [17:38:15] 02989: FAILED: stashedfilenotfound: Could not find the file in the stash: key '13w6adg41er8.r8q870.1.pdf' not found in stash [17:38:36] can it be restored? [17:38:56] or I have to upload it again? 285 MB [17:41:24] yannf: hmm. where's that error from? [17:41:31] yannf: and how long ago did you upload the file? [17:44:05] MatmaRex, it took quite some time [17:44:20] https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Dictionnaire_universel_chronologique_et_historique_de_justice,_police_et_finances,_tome_1.pdf [17:44:30] trying to upload the real file [17:46:59] yannf: i just checked and it seems that stashed files are kept for 6 hours, and the script to delete them runs every day at 1 am UTC. so if you uploaded it yesterday before 1 am, it's definitely gone for good. [17:47:22] sorry, ugh [17:47:38] yesterday before 19:00 [17:47:54] I uploaded it just now [17:48:35] I didn't click on "use stash and async (recommended for large videos and photos, currently broken)" [17:49:09] MatmaRex, so how can i get it? [17:50:00] wait, i'm confused [17:50:45] yannf: ok, so i'm guessing you're using rillke's bigChunkedUpload.js script [17:50:50] yes [17:50:59] i'm not sure what the existing file has to do with the file you're trying to upload? [17:51:22] it's just a blank file [17:51:40] yannf: do you see any files listed on https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:UploadStash ? [17:51:43] rillke's bigChunkedUpload.js only works for reupload [17:52:00] yes, 3 files [17:53:12] I can't see them: Internal Server Error [17:53:12] Cannot serve a file larger than 1048576 bytes. [17:53:41] obviously [17:53:43] yeah, that's normal [17:53:58] is any of them named like the failed stash key, 13w6adg41er8.r8q870? [17:54:55] no see pm [17:57:06] anyway, it's weird. why would it have anything to do with stash if you disabled it. hmm [17:57:24] I tried twice with upload-by-url [17:57:45] but it seems the file is too big, I get an error [17:58:33] probably same issue like when I uploaded videos from IA [17:59:55] it's the first time it failed from Gallica, but usually files from there are much smaller [18:05:52] yannf: honestly, i have no idea. it's possible that the file indeed disappeared somehow. or maybe the bigChunkedUpload tool gets confused when that checkbox is off. [18:07:08] MatmaRex, actually it is probably there, as 2 of my uploads failed [18:08:50] yannf: Special:UploadStash should let you view thumbnails of the files it has stashed [18:09:13] yannf: try visiting a URL like: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:UploadStash/thumb/filekey/100px-filekey [18:09:28] but with 'filekey' replaced by the file name shown on Special:UploadStash [18:10:36] if any of the 3 files looks like the one you were uploading, it can probably be restored. otherwise of if you get an error trying that, probably not, try uploading again. :( [18:10:37] I published the stash [18:11:11] it says wait until tomorrow [18:12:30] huh? :O [18:12:42] yes [18:13:24] now the list if empty [18:15:18] interesting, i didn't know about that tool. well, it published something, even twice. https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Yann [18:15:41] good, it is here https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:13w6e08zw1j4.2b8dcw.1.pdf [18:16:24] and here https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:13w685534ook.6kx545.1.pdf [18:16:54] weird, these should be shown as duplicate [18:18:17] MatmaRex, ok, thanks for your help [18:20:18] sure. :) glad it worked [18:24:01] MatmaRex, FYI https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Rillke/bigChunkedUpload.js&curid=25967824&diff=190872684&oldid=190742980 [18:45:47] Hi, I'm currently implementing an option to allow users with the unblockself permission to login even if §wgBlockDisablesLgoin if set. Now I'm unsure, if such users should still get e-mails from the system if being blocked, or not. What's your opinion on that? [19:32:31] Is there noone who can help me to answer this question?