[03:55:24] <RileyH>	 Anyone having issues with tools.wmflabs.org?
[03:56:25] <ori>	 RileyH: what sort of issues?
[03:57:25] <RileyH>	 https://tools.wmflabs.org/croptool/ attempts to load until it timesout
[04:01:12] <RileyH>	 ori: ^
[04:01:17] <ori>	 RileyH: Other projects seem to load OK; have you tried contacting the tool's author / maintainer? (https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Danmichaelo)
[04:02:33] <RileyH>	 I'll attempt, I figured it was more on wmflab's side than his
[04:06:37] <comets>	 that tool has issues, but dan usually fixes them..
[04:06:53] <comets>	 its the only tool i use on wmflabs lol
[04:07:33] <RileyH>	 It was working a few hours ago, not sure whats up with it. Sadly he hasn't editted in like a week on commons or his home wiki
[04:08:11] <RileyH>	 comets: I also opened an issue for the tool on github like 10 days ago,  no reply 
[04:08:59] <comets>	 it worked fine for me like 3 days back..
[04:09:22] <comets>	 o once had a similar issue as urs, do you have ABP?
[04:10:13] <RileyH>	 nope
[04:12:21] <comets>	 yeah dead for me too :/
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[12:43:00] <kopiersperre>	 does anyone know, when new Wikipedia users have to solve a captcha (it's Extension:ConfirmEdit)?
[12:43:07] <kopiersperre>	 up to how many edits
[12:43:33] <kopiersperre>	 or only when they have included an external link in the article source?
[12:47:46] <andre__>	 kopiersperre: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Newly_registered_user implies 4 or 7 days.
[12:49:39] <kopiersperre>	 andre__: ok, when the account gets autoconfirmed there are no captchas anymore
[12:50:06] <kopiersperre>	 but when i tried 5 minutes ago in german wikipedia I wasn't asked for captcha
[12:50:40] <kopiersperre>	 although i was intentionally using trigger words
[12:50:50] <kopiersperre>	 (swear words)
[12:51:21] <kopiersperre>	 with a newly created unconfirmed account
[13:27:54] <kopiersperre>	 andre__: In which cases unconfirmed users have to solve a captcha?
[13:28:33] <kopiersperre>	 only when their edit contains external links?
[13:32:21] <Nemo_bis>	 kopiersperre: on what wiki?
[13:32:36] <kopiersperre>	 Nemo_bis: dewp
[13:33:52] <Nemo_bis>	 kopiersperre: defaults https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:ConfirmEdit#Configuration
[13:34:31] <Nemo_bis>	 addurl, account, creation, badlogin
[13:35:05] <Nemo_bis>	 see ConfirmEdit section in https://noc.wikimedia.org/conf/highlight.php?file=CommonSettings.php
[13:35:54] <Nemo_bis>	 The most important thing to check, on most wikis, is whether AutoconfirmCount/Age are non-default https://noc.wikimedia.org/conf/highlight.php?file=InitialiseSettings.php
[13:54:58] <kopiersperre>	 Nemo_bis: Thanks. https://noc.wikimedia.org/conf/highlight.php?file=InitialiseSettings.php is quite big, still loading
[14:07:22] <kopiersperre>	 Nemo_bis: For dewp is all default
[14:07:55] <kopiersperre>	 The core question to me is when does mediawiki demand solving a captcha and when not?
[14:10:17] <Nemo_bis>	 kopiersperre: I linked you the ConfirmEdit default
[14:11:13] <Nemo_bis>	 Ah, and IIRC AbuseFilter can also trigger a captcha request
[14:11:17] <kopiersperre>	 Nemo_bis Please!!! I have everything you showed me! It's possible to edit German Wikipedia with unconfirmed status WITHOUT having to solve a captcha 
[14:11:23] <kopiersperre>	 *read*
[14:11:38] <kopiersperre>	 I would like to know in which case the software thinks, that the edit is harmless
[14:12:17] <Nemo_bis>	 kopiersperre: yes, it's possible to edit without solving captchas
[14:12:21] <MatmaRex>	 the software is open and welcoming and thinks all edits are harmless by default ;)
[14:12:42] <MatmaRex>	 i think it only displays a captcha for anonymous users adding links
[14:12:56] <MatmaRex>	 (or non-autoconfirmed?) in our config, at least.
[14:13:09] <kopiersperre>	 MatmaRex: Is the AbuseFilter configured in a way, that adding an external link is considered harmful in any case?
[14:13:28] <Nemo_bis>	 AbuseFilter in itself has no opinion on the matter
[14:13:30] <kopiersperre>	 MatmaRex: Ok, thanks!
[14:13:47] <MatmaRex>	 yeah, AbuseFilter only lets users define rules and actions. it has no login built-in
[14:13:51] <MatmaRex>	 no logic*
[14:14:00] <Nemo_bis>	 why you thank him for his incomplete answer when I gave the complete answer one hour ago :P
[14:14:03] <Nemo_bis>	 14.34 < Nemo_bis> addurl, account, creation, badlogin
[14:14:43] <andre__>	 :D
[14:16:29] <Nemo_bis>	 By the way, I believe there are some bugs about the "addurl" condition, which I filed an year or two ago and IIRC were never looked into.
[14:20:04] <kopiersperre>	 Ok, I thank you all! Such a fuss to get a simple answer.
[16:21:31] <Betacommand>	 is the TOR block extension still working?
[16:22:39] <Glaisher>	 Betacommand: It's still enabled. Did you notice any issue with it?
[16:23:14] <Betacommand>	 Glaisher: Im seeing a lot of activity from IPs listed as TOR
[16:24:19] <Glaisher>	 It doesn't block all Tor nodes
[16:24:55] <Betacommand>	 What is the criterion then?
[16:25:27] <Glaisher>	 *shrugs* what I do know is that it doesn't block 100% of it
[16:26:43] <Betacommand>	 http://pastebin.com/YKKyejcn is a list of 45 probable nodes used in the last 72 hours by a user avoiding a block
[16:32:54] <Dragonfly6-7>	 there's a tool which was created for me on WMFLabs, and which has crashed. Could anyone here restart it for me? Should I ask in another channel?
[16:33:38] <Dragonfly6-7>	 https://tools.wmflabs.org/shortnames/      
[16:36:29] <Betacommand>	 Dragonfly6-7: see #wikimedia-labs 
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[20:06:23] <myrcx>	 -.-
[20:16:55] <Stryn>	 502 Bad Gateway on Meta..
[20:17:24] <ori>	 Stryn: does it recur if you reload?
[20:17:40] <Stryn>	 also reported on #wikidata
[20:17:54] <Stryn>	 well now it works again
[20:19:01] <ori>	 Stryn: reported by you, or is another user seeing this?
[20:19:30] <Stryn>	 ori: it was reported by another user (nikki) there
[20:19:55] <Stryn>	 and he/she got the error on Wikidata
[20:20:16] <ori>	 Stryn: Right; confirmed. It is related to maintenance on our Nginx layer. Should be resolved shortly.
[20:20:20] <ori>	 Sorry for the interruption.
[20:20:47] <Stryn>	 ok :)
[20:26:18] <myrcx>	 ori: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T127227 related to 502 errors?
[20:26:40] <ori>	 bblack: yeah. I or bblack will reply.
[20:26:47] <ori>	 err, that was @myrcx.
[20:26:54] <myrcx>	 ori: Cool, cheers :)
[20:29:03] <ori>	 thanks for flagging it