[00:17:30] <MusikAnimal>	 hello, anyone around that can help me with the new bot login system?
[00:18:07] <MusikAnimal>	 I used Special:BotPasswords on meta to get a password, and I can log in, but the bot assertion is failing
[00:18:31] <MusikAnimal>	 don't tell me I need a different password for each project?
[00:18:52] <Krenair>	 anomie, bd808: ^
[00:19:19] <bd808>	 MusikAnimal: I don't think you should need a separate password, no
[00:20:01] <bd808>	 What behavior are you seeing? You're being authenticated but not getting the rights you expect?
[00:20:46] <MusikAnimal>	 I guess... I pass in `bot=true` to assert it's a bot, and that much fails
[00:20:57] <MusikAnimal>	 but I can read pages and what not
[00:21:15] <MusikAnimal>	 eh, I guess you don't need to be logged in for that
[00:21:18] <bd808>	 yeah
[00:21:28] <MusikAnimal>	 maybe I'm not logged in. I removed the bot=true and it edits as my IP
[00:21:56] <bd808>	 ok, so login is failing using a new bot password
[00:22:02] <MusikAnimal>	 yes, looks like it
[00:22:18] <bd808>	 does it work using the normal account password?
[00:22:58] <MusikAnimal>	 I can login in with my old password for the bot account, yes
[00:23:36] <MaxSem>	 do you check the login result?
[00:23:52] <bd808>	 have you verified that since you had the problem  with the bot password?
[00:24:14] <MusikAnimal>	 bd808: yes, just logged in again with the old password
[00:24:20] <bd808>	 ok great
[00:24:42] <MusikAnimal>	 using the new password it "seems" to login, but I do get the expected warning about action=login being depracated
[00:24:50] <MusikAnimal>	 *deprecated
[00:25:17] <bd808>	 MusikAnimal: can we open a phabricator ticket and start recording things there?
[00:27:17] <MusikAnimal>	 sure
[00:27:24] <MusikAnimal>	 I wonder if I'm doing this right
[00:27:38] <bd808>	 You made a new name too right?
[00:27:46] <MusikAnimal>	 a new name?
[00:28:08] <bd808>	 The first thing https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:BotPasswords asks for is a bot name
[00:28:52] <MusikAnimal>	 and I shouldn't use my bot's name?
[00:28:57] <bd808>	 then the username you use to login becomes "my account name@botname"
[00:29:12] <MusikAnimal>	 yeah, I have MusikBot@MusikBot
[00:29:18] <bd808>	 ok
[00:29:55] <MusikAnimal>	 is this a new password for the bot account itself? I guess it'd have to be. E.g. I should be able to login on the web interface using the bot password
[00:30:30] <bd808>	 I think so. I was just going to try that myself
[00:30:37] <MusikAnimal>	 yeah cause that does not work
[00:31:45] <bd808>	 not for me either. I need to look at anomie's code to see if that is expected. It may only work via the api.php action
[00:32:43] <MusikAnimal>	 the thread on enwiki mentioned deleting the bot's cookies. I use the MediaWiki::Gateway framework and it seems the cookies are created each time I login, and I login for each run
[00:33:45] <MusikAnimal>	 actually I have to head home. Will be back online in about 30
[00:33:50] <MusikAnimal>	 thank you for the help!
[00:47:05] <anomie>	 bd808: BotPasswords only work in the API, not via Special:UserLogin.
[00:47:27] <bd808>	 *nod* I'd mostly figured that out
[01:09:17] <anomie>	 MusikAnimal: FYI, "bot=true" doesn't assert that the user is a bot. That's "assert=bot". Bot passwords are global across SUL wikis. Bot passwords only work via API action=login, not via the web UI. I tested a bot password with my bot just now, and it worked fine...
[01:09:38] <MusikAnimal>	 that must be what it's using, it's a library not my own code
[01:09:53] <MusikAnimal>	 assert=bot, that is
[01:10:40] <MusikAnimal>	 anomie: with Special:BotPasswords we shouldn't need to change the code at all, right?
[01:10:48] <MusikAnimal>	 just update the password itself?
[01:10:52] <anomie>	 MusikAnimal: Right. Just your username and password.
[01:11:17] <MusikAnimal>	 username... so whatever name I used at Special:BotPasswords, which for me was MusikBot
[01:11:27] <MusikAnimal>	 oooh, do I need to login in as MusikBot@MusikBot ?
[01:11:38] <anomie>	 Yes, log in as MusikBot@MusikBot
[01:11:46] <MusikAnimal>	 aha! trying that
[01:13:15] <MusikAnimal>	 hmm
[01:13:41] <MusikAnimal>	 no dice :(
[01:15:33] <anomie>	 Can you capture the full HTTP requests and responses for the login, and put them in a private paste at https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/paste/ or someplace like that?
[01:21:13] <MusikAnimal>	 brb
[01:40:15] <MusikAnimal>	 anomie: hmm I'll have to figure out how to capture those requests. Need one of those network monitoring programs I guess
[01:41:20] <tgr>	 MusikAnimal: mediawiki-gateway has log.debug("#{opts[:method].upcase}: #{form_data.inspect}, #{@cookies.inspect}") in the code, so probably just set loglevel to debug?
[01:42:13] <tgr>	 granted that's only requests, not responses, but it's a start
[01:44:55] <MusikAnimal>	 sorry lots of distractions! I will try that in a moment
[01:48:01] <MusikAnimal>	 anomie: I'm going with visible to: Space S1: Public, Custom policy: just you, that right?
[01:48:09] <MusikAnimal>	 only other "space" is S3: Testing
[01:50:21] <anomie>	 MusikAnimal: Probably that's right
[02:37:50] <MusikAnimal>	 tgr: got it figured out, it was actually an issue with mediawiki-gateway. Wanted to make sure I thanked you for the help :)
[02:38:24] <tgr>	 glad to hear you could get it working
[02:38:50] <MusikAnimal>	 mediawiki-gateway by default throws exceptions when there are warnings, instead of simply printing them. It was the recent mediawiki update that introduced a new warning that caused the bot to fail
[02:39:17] <MusikAnimal>	 I'm not sure if I even needed to use Special:BotPasswords yet, as that wasn't the issue
[03:50:05] <tto>	 Hey, could someone help me out with a quick experiment on Phabricator?
[03:50:11] <tto>	 Could you remove me as a subscriber from https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T85687 ?
[03:54:04] <Snowolf>	 tto: done
[07:42:13] <kopiersperre>	 https://github.com/Commonists/GlobalReplace isn't working anymore
[07:42:22] <kopiersperre>	 ERROR: {"warnings":{"main":{"*":"Unrecognized parameter: 'rawcontinue'"}},"login":{"result":"WrongToken"}}
[07:42:27] <kopiersperre>	 has the API changed?
[07:45:10] <MatmaRex>	 the format of the login token did
[07:45:39] <MatmaRex>	 if you weren't URL-encoding it correctly, your code will no longer work
[08:22:04] <kopiersperre>	 it's no my code
[08:22:08] <kopiersperre>	 but it's a relevant tool
[09:25:28] <stemdA>	 hello
[09:25:30] <stemdA>	 "WrongToken" error from yesterday (from mw1.27#wmf13 update), Special:BotPasswords does not help, any info what additional changes are needed to get former functionality?  (to get bot logged in via api.php)
[09:40:26] <comets>	 yeah nerds broke something,. killed all pywikipedia bots including huggle 
[09:44:44] <MatmaRex>	 huggle does not use pywikipedia.
[09:45:02] <MatmaRex>	 it wasn't encoding the token correctly and it fell over when the token format changed.
[09:45:25] <MatmaRex>	 stemdA: check that you're percent-encoding all parameters.
[09:51:49] <stemdA>	 thanks MatmaRex,  your previous message was actually better :)
[09:51:54] <stemdA>	 [07:45:39] <MatmaRex>	 if you weren't URL-encoding it correctly, your code will no longer work
[09:52:28] <stemdA>	 urlencode() around token and everything again just works, thanks
[09:55:33] <stemdA>	 it would probably work without change if there would be no "+\" on end of token, but I guess that  "+\" have some important purpose? :)
[10:17:50] <kopiersperre>	 andre__: hallo andr�, kannst du dir einmal den "WrongToken" anschauen?
[10:25:06] <andre__>	 kopiersperre, any context, please?
[10:25:13] <andre__>	 (and why me?)
[10:25:27] <kopiersperre>	 because you just wen't online
[10:25:44] <kopiersperre>	 some tools which use the api don't work anymore
[10:25:51] <kopiersperre>	 e.g. GlobalReplace
[10:26:12] <andre__>	 Yes, I just went online.
[10:26:53] <andre__>	 kopiersperre, what are exact steps to reproduce the problem?
[10:27:10] <kopiersperre>	 login with any password containing utf-8 letters
[10:30:31] <andre__>	 what happens then?
[10:30:38] <kopiersperre>	 it fails
[10:31:56] <andre__>	 do you have an error message?
[10:32:02] <andre__>	 Could you please file a bug report in Phabricator, if not existing yet?
[10:35:14] <kopiersperre>	 https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T126724
[10:35:25] <kopiersperre>	 next time i wont bother you on irc
[10:37:21] <andre__>	 kopiersperre: you don't "bother", it's just that I was confused why you pinged specifically me about it :)
[10:37:25] <andre__>	 Thanks for putting it into Phabricator, that's the best place for it!
[12:55:50] <Juandev>	 hui
[12:56:00] <andre__>	 ahoj
[12:56:02] <Juandev>	 status up?
[12:56:14] <Juandev>	 andre__: čaj
[12:56:27] <Juandev>	 andre__: někdy by jsme mohli na pivo
[12:58:31] <Juandev>	 were is the link tu the server performance, please?
[13:00:31] <sjoerddebruin>	 Juandev: http://status.wikimedia.org, and #wikimedia-operations is a better channel for downtimes etc.
[13:01:03] <Juandev>	 oh operations? tech channels diseminate prety fast:-)
[13:03:01] <andre__>	 https://grafana.wikimedia.org
[13:04:29] <sjoerddebruin>	 Speaking about Graphics, the last one in our topic here is not working or is extremely positive.
[13:06:23] <andre__>	 http://graphite.wikimedia.org/render/?width=925&height=556&_salt=1455230924.675&from=-3hours&target=timeShift%28varnish.esams.text.frontend.request.client.method.get.sum%2C%221d%22%29&target=varnish.esams.text.frontend.request.client.method.get.sum
[14:48:09] <anomie>	 kopiersperre: Re https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T126724, which version of GlobalReplace are you using?
[14:50:01] <kopiersperre>	 anomie: 0.6.0 / 0.6.2
[14:51:01] <anomie>	 kopiersperre: Can you try it with 0.6.3?
[14:52:43] <kopiersperre>	 anomie: works, thanks
[15:58:31] <Nemo_bis>	 lol https://fedoraproject.org/w/index.php?title=Bugzilla&diff=prev&oldid=369555
[18:11:42] <wildboarcharlie_>	 Hi guys... I'm messing with the WikiMedia API here... How would I go about requesting a page's page title in another language? (e.g. I want the page 'Chile''s title but in zh-CN) Trying to do some batch translation using your API.
[18:12:12] <Nemo_bis>	 wildboarcharlie_: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/API:Langlinks
[18:12:58] <Nemo_bis>	 wildboarcharlie_: and this is really not what langlinks are supposed to be used for, check https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Data_access and http://wiktionary.org/ instead
[18:14:12] <wildboarcharlie_>	 Nemo_bis: Did not know there was WikiData... Amazing!
[18:17:29] <Nemo_bis>	 :)
[18:23:19] <wildboarcharlie_>	 Umm... I'm not too good with these things... Can anyone walk me through how to find the WikiData ID by a string? Also, is there a way for the API to just return the translation or should I parse it myself?
[18:35:17] <Nemo_bis>	 wildboarcharlie_: if you go the Wikidata way, the channel #wikidata is probably more helpful
[18:35:38] <Nemo_bis>	 You can most likely use an existing client anyway
[18:36:20] <d3r1ck>	 Nemo_bis: Hi
[19:15:37] <MusikAnimal>	 Error!
[19:16:18] <MusikAnimal>	 and we're back that quickly. I knew we would
[19:45:44] <psneog>	 Please help me - see the following errors at aswiki: https://as.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E0%A6%B8%E0%A6%BE%E0%A6%81%E0%A6%9A:General_relativity_sidebar
[23:16:35] <Alchimista>	 Hi, who manages local chapters wikis?
[23:16:43] <Alchimista>	 ^ on wmf servers
[23:18:04] <Alchimista>	 i need some guidance requesting a wiki for my chapter
[23:20:33] <legoktm>	 Alchimista: Krenair is a good person to talk to about requesting a new wiki
[23:21:32] <Krenair>	 the technical details, sure :p
[23:21:49] <Krenair>	 no one is specifically assigned to local chapter wikis afaik
[23:22:48] <Alchimista>	 Krenair, well, it's just the usual stuff. I need to open a task, but assign to wich team? Do i need to include some link to some discussion?
[23:23:01] <Krenair>	 you don't assign it to a team
[23:23:39] <Krenair>	 doesn't really map to foundation teams
[23:23:48] <Alchimista>	 our current wiki is almost on *read mode*, so even if we do add some info about the request there, it'll provably desapear
[23:25:39] <Krenair>	 you're from WMPT right?
[23:25:43] <Alchimista>	 yap
[23:25:51] <Krenair>	 have we discussed this before?
[23:26:25] <Alchimista>	 we've talked some time ago on general. now it's decided,the ticket mus go on