[00:24:17] <matt_flaschen>	 Romaine, there is reportedly already stuff for the FOSDEM stand in Belgium from last year (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T122374#1926334).  Do you know who I could coordinate with to get it brought to FOSDEM?
[00:24:37] <Romaine>	 I have the key to the office
[00:24:54] <Romaine>	 the other one is Dimi
[00:27:23] <Romaine>	 in the morning of FOSDEM I can assist in carying stuff to the cofnerence
[00:28:26] <Romaine>	 matt_flaschen ^^
[00:34:49] <Reedy>	 Romaine: matt_flaschen If there's a lot of stuff... I'm planning on going, and would have my car
[00:38:48] <matt_flaschen>	 Romaine, Reedy, that would be great.  I don't know how much stuff there is (two boxes reportedly, but I don't know how big) (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T122374#1926334), but it would speed things up over public transit since I haven't visited Brussels in 7 years and I might be a little rusty...
[00:39:36] <Romaine>	 if I should estimate two boxes of 60 cm * 60 * 60
[00:40:07] <Romaine>	 WMF told us that we should use the left materials that were left over for whatever we would think it is suitable for
[00:41:00] <Romaine>	 many materials are in the office, stocked, but I am not sure how much
[00:41:26] <Romaine>	 coming Friday I can have a view, as I have a Wikiepdia workshop nearby
[00:41:51] <Reedy>	 thanks :)
[00:41:57] <Reedy>	 matt_flaschen: Do we have a WMF attendance list?
[00:42:24] <Romaine>	 I personally would now suggest to focus on getting more materials about MediaWiki software development and Wikidata
[00:42:48] <Reedy>	 I also need to get a ferry or something booked
[00:43:05] <matt_flaschen>	 Reedy, there is https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/E52 .  I don't know how complete it is.  If you need a more complete list, I could ask travel.
[00:43:26] <Reedy>	 Looks a bit sparse :)
[00:43:32] <Reedy>	 I don't, more just wondering who I might run into
[00:45:17] <Romaine>	 ferry?
[00:45:24] <matt_flaschen>	 Reedy, could we meet with your car at the office 8:30 AM?  That's kind of conservative.  We could push it later, but foreign country, office I've never been to, etc.
[00:45:27] <Romaine>	 ah, by car from the UK then?
[00:45:29] <Reedy>	 I need to get from the UK
[00:45:32] <Reedy>	 yup :)
[00:45:35] <matt_flaschen>	 It's reportedly 10-15 minute drive: https://www.google.com/maps/dir/Wikimedia+Belgium,+Troonstraat+51,+1050+Elsene,+Belgium/ING+Ulb+Campus+Solbosch,+Paul+H%C3%A9gerlaan,+1050+Ixelles,+Belgium/@50.8264145,4.3555488,14z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m18!4m17!1m5!1m1!1s0x47c3c48516867075:0x7b1c31e56980ff3f!2m2!1d4.3678795!2d50.8385906!1m5!1m1!1s0x47c3c4dcf94c21ff:0xee13af931b869d24!2m2!1d4.382399!2d50.813189!2m3!6e1!7e2!8j1452502800!3e0
[00:46:08] <Romaine>	 I am running behind with everything, I hope anyone reserved a stand at FOSDEM?
[00:46:22] <matt_flaschen>	 FOSDEM starts at 9:30 apparently: https://fosdem.org/2016/schedule/
[00:46:27] <matt_flaschen>	 Romaine, yes, I did.  It's approved. :)
[00:46:38] <Romaine>	 great, thanks!
[00:47:17] <Romaine>	 have you both been at FOSDEM in earlier years?
[00:47:25] <matt_flaschen>	 Romaine, nope.  Looking forward to it.
[00:47:57] <Reedy>	 I did a few years ago
[00:48:01] <Reedy>	 It was pretty busy
[00:53:58] * Romaine needs to go to bed now, tomorrow early up again
[00:56:40] <matt_flaschen>	 Reedy, does 8:30 AM Saturday of FOSDEM at the Wikimedia Belgium office work?
[00:59:10] <Reedy>	 It should do, yeah
[00:59:19] <Reedy>	 Might need to confirm a litle bit closer to the time :)
[00:59:41] <Reedy>	 Will know for definite I'm attending when I've booked a crossing tomorrow
[01:02:36] <matt_flaschen>	 Yeah, hopefully you get a good ferry time.
[01:03:25] <Reedy>	 There's availability all day usually... It's when the cost isn't stupid ;)
[01:03:43] <Reedy>	 Never usually too much of an issue
[03:13:04] <psychoslave>	 so, I'm still loked with my problem of expanding a "../target page" wikicode through a scribunto module according to the context of the page calling the tempalte which call the module.
[03:14:33] <psychoslave>	 Is their a way to get the name of the calling page within a template, which would provide a solution as passing this value as an argument to the module.
[10:17:31] <dmacks_away>	 Timeouts on en.wp and commons, and on the ur1.ca (redirecting to various WMF sites) also time out
[10:18:55] <p858snake>	 godog: ^ could that be related to the router in -operations?
[10:19:47] <godog>	 p858snake: thanks, yeah could be related, looking
[10:22:01] <dmacks_away>	 Seems back now.
[10:24:40] <godog>	 yeah I think that was it dmacks_away, I'll see if we can lessen the impact when there's maintenance like that in the future
[10:25:38] <dmacks_away>	 Thanks! Still happening. For past ~10 minutes, I get through maybe 1/5 of my attempts.
[10:26:07] <dmacks_away>	 Your maintenance is forcing me to do Real Life stuff instead grrrr
[10:26:24] <dmacks_away>	 (seriously, thanks for maintaining, and trying to do it non-intrusively)
[10:27:46] <godog>	 hehe no problem, it is planned maintenance from one of our internet transit providers
[10:28:39] <godog>	 dmacks_away: can you paste somewhere a traceroute towards en.wikipedia.org to confirm?
[10:30:35] <dmacks_away>	 Seems to be blocked at my router. en.wikipedia.org(208.80.154.224) gives me nothing but "* * *" for all hops beyond my own local network.
[10:31:55] <dmacks_away>	 Won't have better connectivity/functionality for the next few hr.
[10:32:07] <godog>	 dmacks_away: ah, on linux you could try traceroute -T on mac os x too perhaps see if that works
[16:50:07] <Cookies52>	 Could https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/263625/ be reviewed urgently please? It's a rate limit override needed by Thursday
[16:53:04] <Glaisher|away>	 Cookies52: You have got single IPs in the range.
[16:53:40] <Glaisher|away>	 It might work but I think it would be safer if you set 'IP'
[16:54:17] <Glaisher|away>	 Yep, looks like IP accepts arrays as well
[16:54:18] <Glaisher|away>	 #  'IP'     => client IP as given by $wgRequest->getIP() or array (default: any IP)
[16:54:57] <Cookies52>	 Glaisher|away, I wondered that as well, that was copy-pasted from another example, so I 'think' that should be ok
[16:56:19] <Cookies52>	 Glaisher|away, plus the one above appears to be working (as the event is on with no ACC floods), so I presume this is ok?
[16:57:22] <Glaisher|away>	 Better to do what the docs say although it does work.
[16:58:23] <Cookies52>	 Glaisher|away, hmmm, so what, do two entries with one IP each
[16:58:51] <Glaisher|away>	 The one at the top has ranges not single IPs
[16:59:11] <Cookies52>	 pinging Luke081515|away, who's done these too
[16:59:42] <Luke081515>	 I can take a look, in a few minutes, but at the moment, my broswer don't want to load the site
[17:00:13] <Cookies52>	 Luke081515, no issue, if you can (as you've done these before), that would be useful
[17:00:50] <Glaisher|away>	 > var_dump(IP::isInRanges( '127.0.0.1', array( '127.0.0.1' ) ));
[17:00:50] <Glaisher|away>	 bool(true)
[17:00:53] <Glaisher|away>	 It does work.
[17:01:19] <Glaisher|away>	 but as I already said, it hasn't been merged yet so I'm not sure why you're reluctant to update it
[17:02:00] <Luke081515>	 Cookies52: I will set it to IP quickly, if this is ok for you
[17:02:07] <Cookies52>	 Glaisher|away, that's what I've doing now
[17:02:14] <Luke081515>	 ok
[17:02:46] <Cookies52>	 thanks anyway, I'll remember this for the future :)
[17:04:23] <Cookies52>	 Ok, hopefully that fixed it
[17:04:45] <Luke081515>	 Cookies52: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/263625/2/wmf-config/throttle.php
[17:04:48] <Luke081515>	 c&p error I guess
[17:04:51] <Glaisher|away>	 Cookies52: dbname is also wrong
[17:04:56] <Glaisher|away>	 It should be an array
[17:05:09] <Luke081515>	 ah, you split it, ok
[17:05:22] <Luke081515>	 You can use a array for the IP Param too
[17:05:27] <Luke081515>	 I think
[17:05:55] <Luke081515>	 Glaisher|away: Can the IP param used as array? I think so
[17:06:14] <Glaisher|away>	 It does. See above.
[17:07:15] <Cookies52>	 third time lucky then I guess!
[17:13:55] <Glaisher|away>	 Cookies52: won't work still. I added a comment
[17:16:43] <Luke081515>	 Glaisher|away: array do work without spaces, (at my php code the do), but no one at WMF Code does this^^
[17:16:53] <Luke081515>	 *they do
[17:22:16] <Luke081515>	 Cookies52: 17:22 < grrrit-wm> (CR) Luke081515: [C: -1] Add temporary lift of IP cap for eswiki/wikivoyage on 2016-01-14/15 (1 comment) [mediawiki-config] - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/263625 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T123351) (owner: Mdann52)
[17:22:44] <Luke081515>	 I guess the next set will be right ;)
[17:23:22] <Glaisher|away>	 Luke081515: I meant that dbname does not work.
[17:23:24] <Glaisher|away>	 spaces because of our coding conventions
[17:23:26] <Glaisher|away>	 https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Coding_conventions/PHP#Spaces
[17:23:46] <Luke081515>	 ah, ok, you mean this sapce
[17:23:46] <Luke081515>	 ok
[17:32:18] <Glaisher|away>	 PS5 looks okay technically :)
[17:32:38] <Glaisher|away>	 but the space issue is still not fixed
[17:35:20] <Luke081515>	 Cookies52: 17:35 < grrrit-wm> (CR) Luke081515: [C: 1] "Looks good for me now" [mediawiki-config] - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/263625 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T123351) (owner: Mdann52)
[18:11:03] <Luke081515>	 Cookies52: 18:03 < grrrit-wm> (CR) Luke081515: [C: -1] "You need to add spaces there" (5 comments) [mediawiki-config] - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/263614 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T121853) (owner: Mdann52)
[18:13:46] <myrcx>	 Luke081515: For the phab task number? 
[18:14:20] <Luke081515>	 myrcx: What do you mean?
[18:15:25] <myrcx>	 the missing spaces on your above comment to Mdann52, are you referring to the lack of a space between // and [phab task #]?
[18:18:28] <Luke081515>	 yep
[18:40:01] * legoktm is out of GCI tasks again :(
[19:23:52] <Nemo_bis>	 legoktm: I think you know how to fix that :D
[22:48:08] <YairRand>	 Question: What's the best way for a user script to find out 1. whether a page exists, 2. what the name of a language is (by ISO code)?
[22:59:22] <legoktm>	 YairRand: 1) unless it's the current page, use the API.
[22:59:37] <YairRand>	 legoktm: could you be more specific?
[22:59:56] <YairRand>	 ie, which type of query?
[23:00:07] <legoktm>	 https://en.wikipedia.org/w/api.php?action=query&titles=Main_Page|PageDoesntExist&formatversion=2
[23:00:32] <YairRand>	 thank you