[11:18:08] [[Tech]]; Hgbegyeghu; /* !!**+O 8OO O48 8477 A.V.A.S.T. t.e.c.h support number number */ new section; https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?diff=14727835&oldid=14718289&rcid=7027089 [11:21:38] [[Tech]]; Syum90; Reverted changes by [[Special:Contributions/Hgbegyeghu|Hgbegyeghu]] ([[User talk:Hgbegyeghu|talk]]) to last version by MaxSem; https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?diff=14727880&oldid=14727835&rcid=7027113 [16:23:11] .sysadmin [16:23:59] Hi, I need URGENTLY a System administrator for a temporary lift of IP cap for an outreach event [16:24:23] hi lluis_tgn [16:24:32] hi, private [16:25:45] lluis_tgn: i'm not sure if anyone is going to be "urgently" available… especially on a friday. it's usually good to request it a week or so in advance [16:25:49] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mass_account_creation#Requesting_temporary_lift_of_IP_cap [16:26:19] lluis_tgn: i can't actually help you myself, i don't have the permissions to change this [16:26:44] OK, thanks anyway [16:26:59] lluis_tgn: please file a task per the instructions there, and keep asking people here :) [16:27:08] I am an account creator but I don't think It's going to be in of [16:27:15] What's the event? [16:27:17] When is it? [16:32:27] reedy 18:00 UTC+1 [16:32:33] Today? [16:32:36] yes [16:32:48] https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T119205 [16:33:02] Reedy: on it? [16:33:06] ticket created [16:33:07] ori: No [16:33:07] 10.100.45.61 [16:33:14] It's a private IP, that's no use :( [16:33:19] lluis_tgn: We need hte public IP address [16:33:34] are you at the event venue lluis_tgn? [16:33:38] yes [16:34:01] are you using one of the computers that people will be using during the event? [16:34:18] 195.76.195.27 [16:34:28] this is the public one [16:34:35] people will bring their own [16:35:21] Do you know what the network setup is like? [16:35:59] I can ask I have the tech stuff here [16:36:04] *staff [16:36:12] Please, ask them if everyone will be using that external IP [16:36:18] Or if they've some other setup [16:37:08] yes, and no special setup [16:37:25] ok, we can get this done then [16:37:31] thanks [16:38:55] But if you ever do one in future, please try and give us some more notice :) [16:39:12] yes, I didnt know the venue IP, my bad [16:40:02] I am an account creator but today it's not enought for 50 people, thanks again [16:41:09] https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/254425 [16:41:09] ping me if need [16:44:57] lluis_away: done [16:45:05] thanks [16:48:02] Reedy: <3 [17:05:12] Reedy: wonderful response! just exploring what we do when Reedy isn't available to jfdi...what page shows up when someone is blocked? [17:10:17] robla: Someone is blocked by what? [17:10:27] ie too many signups on an ip address? [17:10:57] yeah, that....what HTML does that user see? [17:15:45] return Status::newFatal( 'acct_creation_throttle_hit', $wgAccountCreationThrottle ); [17:16:05] "acct_creation_throttle_hit": "Visitors to this wiki using your IP address have created {{PLURAL:$1|1 account|$1 accounts}} in the last day, which is the maximum allowed in this time period.\nAs a result, visitors using this IP address cannot create any more accounts at the moment.", [17:17:02] Not a brilliant error, but it's not too bad [17:17:28] Wonder if we should be overriding it in WikimediaMessages to suggest if people are at an event, to phile a task in phab [17:17:33] Like the Freenode notification [17:18:01] robla: ^^ [17:18:10] Reedy: yeah, that sounds like a great idea [17:19:01] I should check if they do actually override... [17:19:02] on Wikimedia wikis, perhaps the message itself should be a link to a page on meta [17:20:07] https://github.com/wikimedia/mediawiki-extensions-WikimediaMessages/blob/master/i18n/wikimedia/en.json [17:20:18] aude: Do you know? Can WikimediaMessages be used to override the defaults in MW? [17:21:59] Yep, there's a hook there. [17:22:18] https://github.com/wikimedia/mediawiki-extensions-WikimediaMessages/blob/master/WikimediaMessages.hooks.php#L25 [17:23:42] Glaisher: Perfect, thanks :) [17:27:58] robla: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mass_account_creation#Requesting_temporary_lift_of_IP_cap [17:28:11] I guess that link would suffice. It says file task and/or poke in IRC [17:30:26] Reedy: yup, that does look pretty good. thanks! [17:31:30] I filed https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T119209 [17:31:35] Might deal with it tomorrow [17:35:13] I wonder if that page should be marked for translation [17:35:14] * Reedy grins [17:37:58] "This will permit up to 300 accounts to be made per IP per hour." Is that still true? [17:39:25] 'wgAccountCreationThrottle' => array( [17:39:25] 'default' => 6, // previously 10 [17:39:46] Glaisher: I think it can be any number, not just 300 [17:40:45] Yeah, the limit is set in throttle.php but maybe there was a hardcoded max limit somewhere.. ? [17:41:13] I don't think so [17:42:08] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mass_account_creation [17:42:14] The other languages thing looks weird [17:43:11] Doesn't like spaces [17:43:12] sigh [17:44:57] Saving the translation failed: Unknown error: "tpt-unknown-page" [17:46:03] yeah, that happens sometimes and might take a few mins sometimes [17:46:45] Maybe should be broken into smaller units, but meh [17:49:23] I just did that. :P [17:55:37] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mass_account_creation is silly [17:55:59] The last time, I just told the first row of people to register on Wikipedia, the second in Wikiquote, and so on. [17:56:12] Up to 4800 attendees, no issue. :D [17:56:45] heh [17:56:54] i suspect CA should do throttling too :P [17:57:50] https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T43284 [17:58:06] hahah [17:58:12] Though we should probably let this throttle stuff be handled on wiki before doing that. [17:59:29] Or make the rate limit global and raise to 100 [17:59:44] Will still be an order of magnitude less than now [18:17:48] [[Tech]]; 122.177.108.154; /* support 1-800-290-5I89 microsoft office technical support phone number */ new section; https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?diff=14734680&oldid=14727880&rcid=7029764 [18:18:01] [[Tech]]; Tegel; Reverted changes by [[Special:Contributions/122.177.108.154|122.177.108.154]] ([[User talk:122.177.108.154|talk]]) to last version by Syum90; https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?diff=14734685&oldid=14734680&rcid=7029771 [18:22:57] * robla associates T43284, T119209 and T91928 with https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/tag/mediawiki-user-login-and-signup/ [18:23:49] robla: what makes you think they are related to core? [18:25:00] Nemo_bis: I was looking for a single project that encapsulates our work on user signups, and that was the closest I found [18:25:32] They seem more CentralAuth [18:26:58] * robla looks for Andre's nick.... [18:35:08] robla: It's andre__ (for some mysterious reasons) but he's not online afaict. [18:36:41] thanks Niharika! I'm mainly just trying to figure out how we should group all of our site login issues. I'd hate to create a new project to do it. [18:37:16] robla: I'm pretty sure andre will talk you out of creating a new project. :P [18:37:50] Niharika: yeah, you're probably right :-) [18:45:59] [[Tech]]; Ghdfshugu89; /* call I-8OO*235-63O2 HP printer Customer Support I-8OO*235-63O2 HP printer Customer Support Number */ new section; https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?diff=14735158&oldid=14734685&rcid=7030012 [18:46:06] [[Tech]]; Wiki13; Reverted changes by [[Special:Contributions/Ghdfshugu89|Ghdfshugu89]] ([[User talk:Ghdfshugu89|talk]]) to last version by Tegel; https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?diff=14735162&oldid=14735158&rcid=7030013 [18:50:40] robla: centralauth is pretty fine for those imho :) [18:52:29] Nemo_bis: do you think that that makes a good singular project we should categorize all Wikimedia user login usability issues under? [18:59:55] if it's the subject of active work, maybe LoginUsability? [19:01:27] i'm a Nemo_bis sockpuppet [19:01:31] robla: not sure what you mean by usability [19:01:39] I'd be happier if CentralAuth actually worked [19:02:00] login is still a lottery [19:03:04] interesting.... CentralAuth change feed: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/project/feed/167/ and MediaWiki-User-login-and-signup https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/project/feed/148/ [19:04:01] MediaWiki-User-login-and-signup seems like a lot better gauge of usability/reliability work in the login area than CentralAuth does, though that's just my initial skim of it [19:04:27] really? it's full of this sort of duplicate tasks :) https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T110291 [19:05:17] I cleaned up the component some weeks ago, I added a bunch of candidate blockers of https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T89459 because that's about integration issues. Login/auth usability for extension developers definitely belongs to core [19:43:11] Anything related to global stuff on Wikimedia usually gets dumped into CentralAuth, and then re-triaged when someone actually works on it [19:56:41] lol [20:08:02] anomie or API experts, https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/API:How_to_make_a_PHP_request which poorly describes using FauxRequest(). When would you use FauxRequest and not DerivativeRequest which https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/API:Calling_internally documents? [20:10:15] you should use DerivativeRequest when doing an action on behalf of a user, typically during a web request (anomie will say that calling the API internally like that is evil though). FauxRequest typically when it's a system process or something. [20:10:18] spagewmf: You use FauxRequest when you want to make a completely separate internal request. You use DerivativeRequest when you want to "inherit" bits of the original request (e.g. IP and request headers). [20:11:48] anomie: thx. I'll merge API:How_to_make_a_PHP_request into Calling_internally [20:38:13] hey there, what is the difference between gerrit.wiki... and git.wiki...? [20:42:46] Chiyo: gerrit is a tool for actual code review. people upload and comment on code there and merge it.. git.wikimedia.org is just a readonly thing to passively look at it [20:42:47] Chiyo: gerrit is where most MediaWiki projects are hosted. [20:43:36] ahh I see [20:43:46] ... (what mutante said). WMF is moving away from git.wikimedia.org to https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/diffusion/ , it's faster and better. [20:45:32] ah I see. I've used phab before but I often heard the admin talk about how much ram it was using so I'm not sure if that was just it badly set up or not [20:45:44] n00b alert: I can't access User::newFromName or FauxRequest() from this sample script https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/P2339 [20:47:18] spagewmf: you should follow https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Writing_maintenance_scripts [20:47:41] your code would go in the execute() function [20:50:26] legoktm: thx. This is just a throwaway test of the PHP, I thought there might be an easier 'require MediaWiki' to make it work [20:50:52] oh, there is [20:50:59] require_once __DIR__ . "/commandLine.inc"; [20:51:18] it's soft-deprecated?, but still works [21:27:01] I can't clear my watchlist....Got 54K items on it. [21:27:05] A database query error has occurred. This may indicate a bug in the software. [21:27:05] Function: SpecialEditWatchlist::clearWatchlist [21:27:05] Error: 2013 Lost connection to MySQL server during query (10.64.16.29) [21:29:28] nvm, redid it a few times. WOrked now