[00:22:15] ShakespeareFan00: huh what? :) [00:22:28] What you working on? [01:14:46] I am trying to move some templates and modules from the english wikipedia to the maori one (mi) so that we can copy navigation templates and the like for translation. I have a problem with {{navbar}} not formatting correctly. See [[mi:User:Gadfium/scratch]]. I think I need to update some css. [01:15:33] Also see [[en:User:Gadfium/scratch]] for a correct format [01:16:52] The html code generated for the visible output on both pages is identical [01:19:56] gadfium: Ah [01:21:16] All the templates and modules which appear to affect this case were updated to the current version on en as of yesterday, and I've purged them a number of times because caching seems to be a potential problem. [01:34:25] ShakespeareFan00: Does your reply mean that you are looking into this for me, or is there someone I should ping? [01:34:58] I'm only trying to follow the conversation, I'm not a techie [01:36:07] Is this the right channel to ask about such problems, and are there techies around here at the moment? [01:43:29] gadfium: hi! [01:43:33] yes, this is a good place to ask [01:43:48] * legoktm looks [01:44:53] Cool, thanks [01:45:17] gadfium: you need https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Snippets/Horizontal_lists [01:48:28] I've tried pasting that at the bottom of MediaWiki:Common.css and when I try to save I get a message "This document contains errors" [01:50:35] umm, are there any other details? [01:51:12] I get the same message if I make no change other than to add a space within a comment, so I think I can ignore that. [01:51:45] 581 Parse Error ==CommonsTicker styles== */ /* ===links=== */ .tickerDiffLink { } [01:51:45] 680 Parse Error /**/ /* [01:52:25] the opening comment is missing before ==CommonsTicker styles== [01:53:00] and the very last [01:53:01] /**/ [01:53:01] /* [01:53:01] lines [01:53:16] and you can use https://jigsaw.w3.org/css-validator/ to test it yourself (I just copied and pasted the page in) [01:55:38] Thanks, I've added the snippet, cleaned up the errors, and it works for my test case. Now to check around the wiki and see if I've introduced any problems. [01:55:46] You've been most helpful [01:55:48] woot :) [02:01:49] Much better than before, but the "v t e" should be in the top left corner of navboxes, and instead it's centred. See for example Template:Whenua o Te Ao-o-Kiwa [02:05:01] Who is responsible for maintaining the common.css for a language version of Wikipedia? Is it local admins or stewards/central tech support? [02:05:19] local admins [02:05:33] Ok, that's me! [02:05:35] gadfium: do you know how to use your browser's inspector? [02:05:51] No [02:06:19] what browser are you using? [02:06:50] Firefox: Tools->Web Developer->Inspector works [02:07:02] oh yay firefox [02:07:16] you can right click on a random part of the page, and hit "inspect element" [02:07:27] on the right side, there will be a section called "Rules" [02:07:36] those are all the CSS rules that apply to the element you selected [02:07:59] you can compare that with the rules that are applying to the element on en.wp, and that should give you a good idea of what CSS you're missing [02:08:18] Ok, let me try that on the "v t e" [02:11:16] https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Tools/Page_Inspector/UI_Tour is useful to get started with btw [02:13:08] If I go to the CSS tab at the bottom I see lots of "deprecated" messages but nothing that looks like rules to me. I'm not a CSS programmer (but I do know C++ and Python so I'm not totally incapable) [02:16:32] do you see the thing labeled "CSS pane" in https://mdn.mozillademos.org/files/10029/inspector-ui.png ? [02:16:34] Those are the CSS rules [02:17:52] Ok, I was looking in the wrong pane [02:21:13] The en has .navbox, .navbox-title and .navbar but the mi has none of these. [02:21:49] So you probably want to copy those related rules :) [02:21:53] from enwp's Common.css [02:21:55] Instead mi has table.navbox [02:22:05] Ok, will do [02:24:37] bingo [02:25:27] This is a little different from the punch-card and mag tape programming I grew up with! [02:29:37] Some templates are displaying properly, others still stubbornly centring the "v t e", but I have the understanding now to investigate this myself, so thanks for your help [02:31:51] great :) np! [03:54:29] how does an extension use i18n strings from core? [03:55:05] oh wrong channel, time to take a rest, sry [07:52:32] Finally an undo feature for etherpad? Plugin worth trying https://github.com/ether/etherpad-lite/issues/1791#issuecomment-156184090 [13:22:44] Hi, i want to create a proxy for wmf labs for domain and all subdomains (for example *.wikitolearn.vmflabs.org) to test sub-domain structure. It is possible? [13:23:35] another question is: websocket are supported? [14:01:26] hi [14:01:57] re https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T106293 could someone check that archive.org is really whitelisted? [14:02:13] 'coz doesn't work right now [14:04:21] yannf: i vaguely recall some complication with archive.org [14:04:28] i forget if it was a subdomain issue or some redirect problem [14:04:39] ah [14:04:59] 'some sort of http permissions error :(' per my note from july... [14:05:12] should I reopen this? [14:05:31] sounds reasonable :) [14:05:57] I will like to mentor some few projects for GCI [14:06:14] i have seen some few projects to work with some accepted students on. [14:06:22] done [14:06:36] Is it acceptable? Will the community give me chance? [15:51:53] [[Tech]]; 139.19.61.211; /* Wrong parentid values in enwiki XML dumps */ new section; https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?diff=14617820&oldid=14551790&rcid=7002069 [17:38:32] @seen bawolff [17:38:32] legoktm: Last time I saw bawolff they were quitting the network with reason: Quit: Bye N/A at 11/13/2015 12:08:13 AM (17h30m19s ago) [18:04:50] matt_flaschen: Have a minute to chat about T116095? [18:05:25] (otherwise, I'm happy to schedule a time next week) [18:05:29] csteipp, sure, PM? [19:02:14] hey [19:10:41] [[Tech]]; 24.149.127.9; /* Pen Mac */ new section; https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?diff=14620334&oldid=14617820&rcid=7002524 [19:10:54] [[Tech]]; Tegel; Reverted changes by [[Special:Contributions/24.149.127.9|24.149.127.9]] ([[User talk:24.149.127.9|talk]]) to last version by 139.19.61.211; https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?diff=14620339&oldid=14620334&rcid=7002528 [20:27:59] hey, don't suppose any mobile devs are o tonight [20:28:01] ? [20:41:07] who knows [20:41:26] maybe some would come out of the woodwork if they had a question to answer, rather than a vague promise of one :) [20:44:42] It's to do with no pages loading on the app for a few users, just wanted to check what the error code meant and what to reply back to them :P [20:44:52] (android app) [20:53:08] Cookies52, mobile devs live in #wikimedia-mobile [21:11:45] but what kind of life is that anyway! [21:18:43] https://twitter.com/GoogleCodeIn/status/665259218191196160 yay [21:24:58] nice! [21:25:22] who deserved congratulations? (as in, who worked on the proposal?) [21:27:21] andre__afk I believe [21:30:11] cool :) [21:31:19] so I'm supposed to be one of those grey-haired persons on the left ^^ https://codein.withgoogle.com/ [21:51:42] Congratulations to MediaWiki :) [21:52:29] to be fair they show the students with purple hair, so it might not mean much :P [21:54:28] ebernhardson: really? [21:58:01] d3r1ck: i just meant i doubt most students have purple hair, so it's not so bad that most of the mentors don't have grey hair either :) [21:58:18] although i have a few grey one's sneaking in these days.. [21:59:13] ebernhardson: hahaha... Thanks funny. I have 2 grey hairs. That might help for a while :) [22:00:23] Thanks -> *Thats