[00:13:14] * Katie pets closedmouth.
[00:16:16] <huji>	 hey, anyone from the wikimedia tech side onine at this tiem?
[00:16:18] <huji>	 time*
[00:17:25] <Krenair>	 ?
[00:24:48] <huji>	 Krenair: hi
[00:24:53] <huji>	 thanks for responding
[00:24:58] <Krenair>	 hi
[00:25:12] <huji>	 I'm trying to figure out the best way to ensure we can use SecurePoll locally at Fa WP
[00:25:46] <huji>	 I am posting a bug to WMF-Site-Requests so that an "electionadmin" group is created. And then stewards can deal with that for us
[00:25:52] <huji>	 specifically, here is my question:
[00:26:04] <huji>	 is the process used by En WP to use SecurePoll documented anywhere?
[00:26:17] <huji>	 like who gives the list of candidates to who, who actually creates the election, etc?
[00:26:47] <Krenair>	 It's Wikimedia-Site-requests
[00:27:42] <huji>	 yeah, that is correct
[00:27:45] <Krenair>	 We have docs on how it's used for a board election: https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/SecurePoll
[00:28:02] <Krenair>	 oh, and the enwiki arbcom election
[00:28:10] <huji>	 sweet!
[00:29:10] <Krenair>	 "Election administrators should generally have CheckUser access, or be otherwise identified to the foundation under the privacy policy, since a SecurePoll administrator has access to user IP addresses for the purposes of fraud detection"
[00:29:20] <huji>	 that answered my question entirely!
[00:29:38] <huji>	 yes I am aware of the latter, in fact Fa WP wants only Stewards to have that right (no one local)
[00:29:49] <Krenair>	 I'm not too familiar with SecurePoll myself but I'm sure James A would know everything you need
[00:31:03] <huji>	 James A?
[00:31:25] <Krenair>	 WMF CA's James Alexander
[00:31:33] <huji>	 Oh
[00:31:35] <ori>	 Jamesofur on IRC (in #wikimedia-operations, among others)
[00:31:39] <huji>	 James Alexander
[00:31:39] <Krenair>	 "Trust and Safety Manager"
[00:32:05] <huji>	 been in touch with him before :) didn't realize that this (obviously) would fall under his jurisdiction
[00:32:26] <Krenair>	 I don't know if I'd call it his jurisdiction :)
[00:32:49] <Krenair>	 But he's certainly someone I'd ask if I wanted to know how SecurePoll is used
[00:36:54] <huji>	 how about "field of expertise"?!
[00:37:26] <Krenair>	 sure
[00:45:22] <huji>	 thanks Krenair, very much appreicated
[00:45:29] <Krenair>	 np
[07:55:32] <snitch>	 [[Tech]]; ArchiverBot; Bot: Archiving 1 thread (older than 30 days) to [[Tech/Archives/2015]].; https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?diff=14312418&oldid=14279544&rcid=6931720
[15:15:20] <ankry>	 what is this:
[15:15:21] <ankry>	 MediaWiki internal error.
[15:15:21] <ankry>	 Exception caught inside exception handler.
[15:15:21] <ankry>	 Set $wgShowExceptionDetails = true; at the bottom of LocalSettings.php to show detailed debugging information.
[15:15:25] <ankry>	  
[15:15:34] <ankry>	 while attempting to save a page
[15:15:38] <Stryn>	 got the same error
[15:16:30] <malafaya>	 Status Up?
[15:16:41] <Stryn>	 all wmf wikis are down
[15:16:47] <enterprisey>	 yep
[15:16:55] <enterprisey>	 phab ticket at https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T116592
[15:17:55] <KDDLB>	 what niow
[15:17:56] <KDDLB>	 what now
[15:18:01] <rory096>	 https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T116593 is the open/non-dupe one
[15:18:02] <KDDLB>	 "MediaWiki internal error."
[15:18:09] <KDDLB>	 ha
[15:18:53] <Nemo_bis>	 https://wikitech-static.wikimedia.org/wiki/Server_Admin_Log is not very useful ;)
[15:19:04] <The_Photographer>	 MediaWiki internal error.  Exception caught inside exception handler.  Set $wgShowExceptionDetails = true; at the bottom of LocalSettings.php to show detailed debugging information.
[15:19:10] <The_Photographer>	 Wikimedia sites are dead
[15:19:16] <bennylin>	 ugh...
[15:19:22] <Taketa>	 so I am not allone, good to know
[15:19:24] <bennylin>	 anybody got mirror :p
[15:19:29] <Alphos>	 The_Photographer i think the "Status: Down" in the chan topic pretty much says it all
[15:19:36] <enterprisey>	 word on the phab ticket is that a SWAT change killed it
[15:19:46] <enterprisey>	 they're rolling it back right now
[15:20:21] <bennylin>	 i came, i saw, and i click the links...
[15:20:25] <Nemo_bis>	 relevant quip: 
[15:20:26] <Nemo_bis>	 <vvv> What's the current development/deployment model we use? <Nikerabbit> Commit then flee!
[15:20:35] <bennylin>	 lol
[15:20:37] <Bsadowski1>	 LOL
[15:20:37] <enterprisey>	 Nemo_bis: too close to home
[15:20:46] <qgil>	 greg-g, ^^^^^ https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T116593
[15:21:02] <bennylin>	 not commit then resign?
[15:21:04] <The_Photographer>	 phabricathor is Down
[15:21:06] <The_Photographer>	 lol
[15:21:14] <enterprisey>	 phab is up for me
[15:21:15] <The_Photographer>	 502 Bad Gateway
[15:21:21] <qgil>	 The_Photographer, phab works or me
[15:21:23] <qgil>	 for me
[15:21:27] <The_Photographer>	 Try create a task
[15:21:50] <enterprisey>	 anyway, the change has been reverted according to gerrit and I guess we're waiting for the ops team to stop playing CS:GO
[15:21:55] <qgil>	 The_Photographer, https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T116597
[15:22:01] <The_Photographer>	 I cant use mediawiki authentication for phabricator
[15:22:05] <The_Photographer>	 because mediawiki is down
[15:22:14] <qgil>	 ah
[15:22:16] <enterprisey>	 aaaaand we're up
[15:22:17] <KDDLB>	 it's basck
[15:22:39] <qgil>	 \o/
[15:22:44] <rory096>	 hooray
[15:22:52] <enterprisey>	 (cue the endless complaining at enwp's technical village pump)
[15:22:53] <The_Photographer>	 hep hep hooray
[15:23:06] <jc__>	 Yay!
[15:23:16] <The_Photographer>	 thanks god
[15:23:20] <The_Photographer>	 my god
[15:23:52] <jc__>	 Sorry about that guys, I tripped over the power cord....
[15:23:59] <The_Photographer>	 Thanks my lord Wikimedia is back
[15:24:03] <bennylin>	 and I left, thanks!
[15:26:10] <The_Photographer>	 When breaking down, I was uploading this file https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Brain_Surface.SVG maybe the problem was the file?
[15:27:09] <MatmaRex>	 no
[15:27:16] <MatmaRex>	 somebody messed up a deployment
[17:28:33] <Nemo_bis>	 Does VisualEditor for some reason prefer uppercase for one-letter interwiki prefixes? Sounds very wrong: https://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?title=Localisation&diff=prev&oldid=1922576
[17:29:17] <Nemo_bis>	 (Or Parsoid, rather; IIRC that's where the links get normalised.)
[17:32:11] <RoanKattouw>	 Maybe it thinks it's a normal non-interwiki title?
[17:34:13] <Krenair>	 Nemo_bis, can you file a task please?
[17:36:35] <Nemo_bis>	 ok
[17:38:31] <Krenair>	 thank you Nemo_bis 
[17:40:12] <Nemo_bis>	 https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T116619
[19:44:06] <staff101>	 Hi
[19:44:39] <staff101>	 !op
[19:45:37] <staff101>	 i need somebody
[19:45:39] <staff101>	 here
[19:45:40] <staff101>	 please
[20:17:46] <Betacommand>	 staff101: what?
[20:34:48] <p858snake>	 Betacommand: troll from #mediawiki earlier
[20:38:23] <snitch>	 [[Tech]]; Antivirussupportnumber; /* call@=@1.844.247.1987#=#=Dell Printer tech support phone number, Dell Printer technical support phone number */ new section; https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?diff=14324180&oldid=14312418&rcid=6936266
[20:38:47] <snitch>	 [[Tech]]; Matiia; Reverted changes by [[Special:Contributions/Antivirussupportnumber|Antivirussupportnumber]] ([[User talk:Antivirussupportnumber|talk]]) to last version by ArchiverBot; https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?diff=14324184&oldid=14324180&rcid=6936268
[20:47:22] <Betacommand>	 p858snake: Figured, but wanted to troll back some :P