[14:52:58] were there any recent changes (past month or so) to the way ResourceLoader works, or how user scripts are served? [15:09:38] yes [15:10:02] gj MatmaRex [15:10:06] yes? [15:10:14] yes. [15:10:17] i don't know the details [15:10:22] but there were definitely changes :P [15:10:37] MusikAnimal: Ask a vague question, get a vague answer [15:10:43] haha [15:10:47] presumably they're causing some problem for you? if you say what the problem is, perhaps i can pinpoint what might be causing it [15:11:12] or you could just search the git log for 'resourceloader' [15:11:29] well, we've got users complaining about a lag with scripts loading, which for some users means things jump around a lot (the script inserts links, ect) [15:11:33] see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MusikAnimal#Delay_.28again.29 [15:11:47] I've have been observing FOUCs on the login form since those changes [15:13:16] the "top" loading queue is now asynchronous [15:13:32] which generally means that page content loads quicker, and all scripts load slower [15:13:38] aha [15:13:42] that might be it then [15:13:45] !gerrit d7905627fdc3b210a4f42d2ba23a337d0ca2bc5c [15:13:50] grumble, bot. [15:13:51] we do care more about page content [15:13:54] but that was almost two months aog. [15:14:17] !g d7905627fdc3b210a4f42d2ba23a337d0ca2bc5c [15:14:44] hmm, what is the syntax. [15:14:56] !gerrit is https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#q,,n,z [15:14:56] Unable to modify db, access denied, link to database isn't valid [15:14:57] Ctrl + C [15:14:59] Ctrl + V [15:15:00] Enter [15:15:01] bah [15:15:06] * MatmaRex slaps wm-bot around a bit with a large trout [15:15:26] i honestly can't remember the last time i managed to make it do anything on any channel [15:15:47] either this, or my cloak is not trustef for some reason, or something else yet [15:16:02] I am running http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WM-Bot version wikimedia bot v. 2.8.0.0 [libirc v. 1.0.3] my source code is licensed under GPL and located at https://github.com/benapetr/wikimedia-bot I will be very happy if you fix my bugs or implement new features [15:16:02] @help [15:16:19] I trust: petan.*wikimedia/Petrb (2admin), .*@mediawiki/.* (2trusted), .*@wikipedia/.* (2trusted), .*@wikimedia/.* (2trusted), .*@wikimedia/Krinkle (2admin), [15:16:19] @trusted [15:16:44] http://bots.wmflabs.org/dump/%23wikimedia-tech.htm [15:16:44] @info [15:16:51] It say's its db conn is fscked [15:17:15] it's lying [15:17:21] anyway. [15:17:50] MusikAnimal: Krinkle and ori have been working on RL internals actively recently, but i looked at some changes and nothing else should have a user-visible effect [15:18:04] but i'm not following their work very closely. so who knows. [15:18:07] hmm [15:18:12] hah. I never knew that you could do commit message searches on gerrit [15:18:45] well, I certainly did have an effect on the login form for me [15:18:56] It didn't happen before [15:19:09] it* [15:19:28] it's User:Bbb23 I'm talking about, and I know he doesn't have a lot of scripts and gadgets turned on to begin with, so not sure why it's loading so slow for him [15:19:51] Bad connection etc [15:19:52] ? [15:20:00] Redrose said they were experiencing a lag at times too [15:20:13] he said he had a solid 25mbps connection [15:21:03] Good latency too? [15:21:41] as in the ping? [15:22:34] Indeed [17:19:40] I've been seeing FOUCs on the login page for a while too [17:19:42] I mentioned it to Krinkle but I forgot what he said [17:19:45] * RoanKattouw wonders if there's a phabricator task [17:19:56] * Krinkle does not recall hearing that [17:20:01] But I have noticed it as well [17:21:08] I can't find a task for it [20:39:47] mutante, is this item ready (or needing) to be announced in Tech/News this week (on Monday)? https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T105804 I see activity, but I can't deduce if it's actually happening soon... (Nor how to summarize it - I see your old diff, but do editors/bot-wranglers need to know or do anything in response?) [20:40:47] quiddity: i'm trying to figure that out .. it might not be worth the risk to do it [20:41:14] mutante, ok. Please let me know by tomorrow morning, if anything needs to be added to Tech/News. Thanks :) [20:41:37] quiddity: ok!