[03:39:36] Hmmm. [04:13:08] robla, sorry I didn't see it [04:19:12] hey matt_flaschen, do you have a moment to answer one or two questions regarding the code of conduct draft? [04:19:50] ori, sure. [04:21:18] so I'm aware of this being rather late in the game, in that this has been discussed for a while, and I don't want to unwitting sabotage things by re-opening for discussion topics that have been extensively debated already [04:21:57] so what is 'the old version that previously reached consensus' mentioned here: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Talk:Code_of_conduct_for_technical_spaces/Draft#Follow-up_consensus_discussion_on_intro.2C_.22Principles.22.2C_.22Expected_behavior.22_and_.22Unacceptable_behavior.22_sections ? [04:22:10] is it the older revision in the diff below? [04:23:13] ori, yep, https://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?title=Code_of_conduct_for_technical_spaces/Draft&oldid=1878648. Linked as "current text" from the older discussion, https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Talk:Code_of_conduct_for_technical_spaces/Draft#Consensus_discussion_on_intro.2C_.22Principles.22.2C_and_.22Unacceptable_behavior.22_sections [04:25:20] matt_flaschen: cool, thanks -- I think that clears things up for me [04:26:18] No problem. I know it ended up slightly confusing, so I will do it differently in the future (last call period to make changes, and then a consensus discussion period without changes) [04:31:04] * ori nods. [04:47:55] devunt: no problem, and sorry again for the late coordination. I'm happy we're getting something pulled together! [04:54:29] * devunt too [04:54:30] thanks! [10:31:18] Anybody having an idea what triggered the user skin preference to be reset to default Vector on mw.org and test? cf. https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T114208 [13:25:27] xzise: it is not yet run. the script will be available through jenkins which is configured via https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Continuous_integration/Jenkins_job_builder . but we are switching to https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Continuous_integration/Architecture/Isolation which means consolidating multiple jobs into one to save on VMs. it was said that consolidation is needed for this script as adding such little scripts each into their own [13:26:24] jzerebecki, but I want to provide patches and want to test them ;) so I thought I'd run the test module locally… but somehow the paths don't add up [13:31:36] xzise: here it shows running the tests, did you do it in a similar way?: https://integration.wikimedia.org/ci/job/tox-jessie/3/console#console-section-1 alternatively: are you white listed in the CI? then uploading a patch will run the tests. [13:39:11] jzerebecki, I'm whitelisted on gerrit… if that is what you mean. Although is that project specific? [13:40:01] xzise: thats what i meant. no, then that will work for you. [13:40:21] But I thought that the commit message checker wasn't enabled yet? [13:41:36] okay uploading a patch to the jenkins repo will run the tests [13:42:36] And tox doesn't run the commit message tests [13:43:48] oh sorry… [13:44:02] I screwed my test for it up which is the reason it didn't run them [13:56:22] okay jzerebecki I might have a more dynamic implementation for the tests soon ;) thanks for the help [13:56:35] yw [14:04:28] robla: i'd like to get some designers' input on T90914, I don't know if they're in the habit of attending rfc meetings in general. [14:05:01] so if we're going to do that, let's make sure it gets announced well in advance, and we have an email thread involving the design team, etc. [14:05:59] jzerebecki, in case you are interested: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/242551 [14:16:52] xzise: thank you [16:50:30] cscott: I only just saw your comment here. I think this can today's can be the one of many conversations about T90914, assuming we have time for it after the first item [19:35:25] hey, a silly question. Do you know if the api can spit me usergroups of a particular wiki? [19:36:34] one of the action=query&meta=something modules I'm guessing [19:38:13] meta=userinfo, IIRC [19:59:09] https://de.wikipedia.org/w/api.php?action=query&meta=userinfo looks like noise to me :/ [20:06:30] White_Cat: there are some props you can pass to get more output [20:07:31] White_Cat: https://de.wikipedia.org/w/api.php?action=help&modules=query%2Buserinfo [20:08:11] https://de.wikipedia.org/w/api.php?action=query&meta=userinfo&uiprop=groups [20:09:55] neat [20:09:56] thanks [22:10:01] hi, anyone here who manages chapter wikis server issues? [22:10:52] Alchimista, each chapter is usually independent [22:11:10] or is it wmf-hosted? [22:11:24] Platonides: i'm colecting info for moving wm-pt to wmf infrastucture [22:11:48] or at least consider it [22:12:43] are you having problems with your current hosting? [22:12:57] Alchimista, as far as technical issues are concerned, almost all WMF wikis are managed centrally [22:13:10] I guess WM-ES could host it for you if needed [22:13:26] what do you want to know? [22:16:01] well, currently we have our wiki and sites on a private server, but we must move it to another, and we're planning to downsize, if we don't need to take care of servers we can focus on *real* activities [22:16:43] wow, only 22 users [22:17:28] Platonides: yap, no many people to many work [22:18:01] we could fit it quite easily in wm-es server [22:18:35] as an alternative for you [22:18:47] Platonides: thanks, we'll have a reunion on the next days to discuss it [22:19:09] we would need to discuss it inside wm-es, but I doubt anyone would oppose [22:19:53] hi Beria [22:19:58] hi Platonides :D [22:20:15] Alchimista, any questions, or...? [22:21:15] Alchimista, what's confidentialedit ? [22:22:37] Lockdown-related, I guess [22:22:49] Krenair: sorry, i'm discussing it now with wmpt people, so can i email you with all the questions? [22:23:12] Lockdown? Yeah, that's probably not going to be able to happen on a WMF-hosted wiki. [22:23:19] Platonides: confidential issues, like discussions about conversations to sponsors, and sensible info [22:23:19] Sure [22:23:47] Krenair: it's not critical [22:24:11] btw are there any viable alternatives on-wiki? if not, no problem [22:24:19] waldir, no [22:24:27] ok [22:24:31] the only official solution is a public wiki and a different private wiki [22:24:47] that's overkill for us [22:24:48] fwiw, if wmpt is comfortable with the security provided by Lockdown, I have no problem installing it on wmes server [23:38:35] Platonides: we just concluded our meeting. Thanks a lot for the offer. We'll have to decide further details in a meeting next week, but we'll definitely accept an offer by WMES to host at least part of what we've got (we'll try to trim as much as possible) :)