[05:30:27] Apparently, the popup blocker in iceweasel 40.0.3 also blocks UploadWizard, because the file dialog to add local files cannot be opened. [08:10:19] Hi [08:10:25] This is going to sound unusal but [08:11:54] Does anyone here know of a scripting language that could be used for representing the following, "chemical structures" , "circuit diagrams" and "funcction signal" charts? [08:12:29] Currently on Wikiupedia these tend to be SVG, but I was wondering if like with the music and math typsetting, there was a way to have them as a text script that gets rendered? [08:16:21] ShakespeareFan00: not a strange question at all, and yes, there are notations for these domains as well [08:16:41] I'm about to go to sleep and I don't remember off the top of my head, but they definitely exist. Look for circuit notation, etc. [08:17:11] Which are not seemingly implemennted as a or tags [08:17:18] Hmm... [08:17:32] Who do I have to approach to get these implemennted if there is a need? [08:17:55] file a task in phabricator: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/ [08:18:11] qgil or andre__ can help [08:18:24] (sorry gents, i'm off! :D) [08:29:07] That feature request is already tracked. [08:30:58] See the blockers of https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T56213 and their blockers [08:31:01] hi ShakespeareFan00 about chemistry, I found https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T19598 [08:32:24] ShakespeareFan00, about circuit diagrams, I could only find the very vague https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T56221 [08:32:56] My thought was that there should be a way of sensibly rendering somthing like SPICE [08:33:01] but I could be wrong [08:33:10] ah, and Nemo_bis was faster providing the good link :) [08:33:47] For logic circuits I suppose you could find something that render's simple VHDL/Verilog, but I'm not sure which of those is free [08:33:58] ShakespeareFan00, I don't know much about this markup, but I recommend you to ask in the right task in Phabricator, where other people also interested in that topic will be able to respond [08:34:05] OK Thanks [08:35:22] ShakespeareFan00, I see now that you are a fluent Phabricator user, so you know what I mean :) [08:37:08] Yep [10:12:48] [[Tech]]; Billinghurst; /* dead and recovered links */ https://wikipediatools.appspot.com/linksearch.jsp?radio=on&set=top40&link=thailex.info; https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?diff=13763220&oldid=13753956&rcid=6819765 [10:38:16] [[Tech]]; Billinghurst; /* Setting user permissions on files uploaded */ are you asking about the site or the software?; https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?diff=13763494&oldid=13763220&rcid=6819815 [12:50:30] [[Tech]]; 188.52.3.197; [none]; https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?diff=13765414&oldid=13763494&rcid=6820407 [12:51:36] yuvipanda: Willing to give https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/57410 (CreateRedirect extension) another review, as the commit message got updated? Or not your cup of tea? [12:51:46] [[Tech]]; Glaisher; Reverted changes by [[Special:Contributions/188.52.3.197|188.52.3.197]] ([[User talk:188.52.3.197|talk]]) to last version by Billinghurst; https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?diff=13765430&oldid=13765414&rcid=6820412 [12:57:58] Nemo_bis: that doesn't sound right at all [15:02:58] is it possible to put raw json as page contents and get it pretty printed without doing anything crazy-special like eventlogging had to (e.g generic json) [15:10:33] ebernhardson: I think ZeroPortal had something like that... dunno what they did, though. [15:10:46] Also I think we still don't have a Json content in core, but I could be wrong [15:11:00] I *am* wrong [15:12:20] yea i'm pretty sure we have json in core, but i think we made it so you can only do that from code [15:12:24] not from api or web ui [15:15:36] Seems core has code for showing it as a table, but that seems not to support editing by any means [15:15:48] the edit page api can edit it, presumably [15:47:59] Krenair, you about? [15:49:11] or anyone else who understands user right's will do :P [16:24:28] Hey, enwiki is down [16:24:39] 503 HTML error [16:25:24] frwiki too [16:25:41] yes [16:25:46] Status is issues still [16:25:49] | Status: Issues | [16:25:51] Cookies52, hi, I'm about now [16:26:13] Ruh-roh [16:27:04] APIs seems to be working [16:27:21] Krenair, it's about https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T113109 , I can't seem to find the existing right defined in intilisesettings.php (sic), so I was wondering how it had been defined [16:27:34] someone at #wikipedia just reported that api is down as well [16:27:35] hence why I assumed it was one of these group rights changes I've seen done [16:28:01] https://pt.wiktionary.org/w/api.php?maxlag=35&tllimit=5000&format=json&rvprop=ids|flags|timestamp|user|comment|content&lllimit=5000&prop=info|categoryinfo&pageids=4876&continue=&meta=userinfo&indexpageids=&action=query&uiprop=blockinfo|hasmsg [16:28:29] and it's backkkk [16:29:12] We now return you to your regularly scheduled editing [16:49:33] omg Special:MovePage got UFO [16:50:09] wow I didn't believe the dropdown could become even worse :) [16:50:30] UFO? [16:51:12] un-ef'd-up? [16:51:22] uber-ef'd-up? [16:52:56] I'm observing an FOUC on the dropdown [16:58:55] Glaisher: Yeah, the conversion from a native widget for non-JS users to an active widget has different styling, sadly. [16:59:30] Glaisher: If we outputted it as a native OOUI PHP widget it'd look OK, I guess. [17:00:08] https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T86865#1666816 [17:10:01] hi James_F - What broke? [17:15:31] did anything? [17:25:02] James_F: Can I borrow you for a moment in relation to something else entirly? [17:25:16] ShakespeareFan00: Sure. [17:42:38] ebernhardson: you need the 'editcontentmodel' permission, and you can use Special:ChangeContentModel to create new JSON pages [17:43:07] legoktm: ahha thats right, thanks. [17:58:49] ebernhardson: yes i am here [17:59:19] d3r1ck: wrong repository [17:59:30] d3r1ck: the vendor repository is not our code, it belongs to people all over the internet [17:59:42] d3r1ck: to change anything in the vendor repository you must first go to the owner and get the change done tehre [17:59:48] only then can we update our vendor repository to pull in new code [18:00:26] ebernhardson: if i change it there, then they have to approve first before anything happens to MediaWiki right? [18:00:30] they have to merge first [18:00:44] right [18:00:46] which might be a long process right? [18:01:11] and there are there bugs like that which Lintian throws warning. [18:01:22] depends on the project, in my experience contributing to that particular repository it's not bad at all [18:01:36] ebernhardson: this problem now become a little bit problematic :) [18:01:38] Well, we have been known to live hack if it's a major issue [18:01:51] Reedy: what do you mean? [18:02:07] if we have to fix something, and its important, we will fix it and not wait on upstream [18:02:13] ^ [18:02:21] ebernhardson: so what do you suggest? [18:02:24] that i go fix them? [18:02:29] but for something like adjusting the files included in the distribution package, i think upstreaming is the correct fix [18:02:40] i've sent patches to zordius before, never a problem [18:02:56] (its also all part of being a good open source citizen) [18:03:17] ebernhardson: i see, suggest something [18:03:35] and how i should fix it in zordius [18:04:10] do just like brian did in the patch i linked you earlier: https://github.com/nmred/kafka-php/commit/405a9b655472acca1c7f1b6ba43cc26600e05e1e [18:04:26] i mean dont copy/paste, but it is the same issue you are fixing. the same general fix can be applied. [18:05:55] ebernhardson: this problem is not only affecting the zordius repo [18:06:28] its also affectin firebase and [18:06:40] liuggio [18:06:57] so i have to write 3 gitattribute files and send to them? [18:07:21] d3r1ck: different packages will need different solutions, but in the case of executable example scripts they can be removed from distribution packages via gitattributes [18:07:35] i hve to go to a meeting, good luck [18:07:40] :) [18:07:41] ok [19:31:11] SMalyshev: you around? I read WDQS and started editing it, some quick questions. a) "Ontology prefix on WDQS does not have -beta suffix and is always [http://www.wikidata.org/ontology-beta# http://wikiba.se/ontology#]" why a different link than URI? [19:31:24] that was in https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikibase/Indexing/RDF_Dump_Format#WDQS_data_differences [19:41:12] b) I get errors trying the second SPARQL in https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikidata_query_service/User_Manual#Label_service [19:44:28] spagewmf: In #wikidata more people will probably respond to SPARQL questions [19:45:14] ah, scroll sideways (c)

 tag needs "white-space: pre-wrap;" ) and it's 'schema:description' uses an undefined prefix.
[19:46:23] 	 multichill: thanks good point, but I think Stas authored these pages.
[19:49:35] 	 spagewmf: i don't think he's around today, at least havn't seen him
[19:50:19] 	 ah, b) needs the prefix schema:  from the Social/Other dropdown
[19:50:52] 	 ebernhardson: are you all SPARQLy ? :-) I think I improved https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikidata_query_service/User_Manual#Label_service
[19:52:41] 	 ebernhardson: but I'm still confused about the passive voice of "In each case, the variable in ?NAME should be bound" . I'll e-mail SMalyshev 
[19:57:35] 	 spagewmf: well, rdf is like stabbing yourself in the eyeballs with toothpicks
[19:57:39] 	 does that answer your question? :)
[19:57:46] 	 ebernhardson: hi
[19:57:55] 	 d3r1ck: hi
[19:58:28] 	 ebernhardson: I'm pretty sure you mean schema:ontobase:?n3#skos-attribute:toothpick ?plural
[19:58:33] 	 ebernhardson: lon time men
[19:58:37] 	 :-)
[19:58:37] 	 i have a plan
[19:58:45] 	 ebernhardson: i need two mentors :)
[19:59:13] 	 ebernhardson: i will like to focus on a particular domain(specialise)
[19:59:23] 	 ebernhardson: what is your domain here in Wiki
[20:00:13] 	 d3r1ck: i doubt i would have time for it, i'm currently tech lead on the search team within the discovery department.
[20:00:48] 	 so basically, we are responsible for search results inside the wiki (search as you type, full text, similar articles, etc)
[20:01:20] 	 ebernhardson: ok
[20:04:11] 	 spagewmf, robla: i'm having trouble with the google talk plugin. doing my best...
[23:58:28] 	 cscott: stop writing so many awesome presos!