[03:21:42] TimStarling: I put my "let's do the Dev Summit IETF style" spiel in https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T111306 [03:25:48] and you say we should also participate in IETF activities? [03:35:24] TimStarling: ? [03:38:18] yes? [03:39:04] what was that in reference to? [03:39:56] TimStarling: I put my "let's do the Dev Summit IETF style" spiel in https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T111306 [03:40:31] hah! [03:40:35] so my client does drop messages. [03:40:42] that didn't appear in my scrollback, thanks. [03:41:00] shouldn't really be possible [03:41:04] maybe you are ignoring robla [03:41:31] TimStarling: ah...just saw your response. I don't think it's something we should dogpile on the IETF meetings, but I think we should get a better understanding for how they do it. [03:41:49] never! :) [03:42:17] I've been trying since 2014 to explain how it works, but I think having someone go would be really helpful [03:42:50] dynosaur and I discussed her as a possibility to go [03:43:45] * robla steps afk for a sec [03:43:59] bags not it [03:44:09] ;) [03:44:34] ori: btw that was in response to robla, who wrote some more lines above [03:44:40] hahaha [03:45:48] maybe you should get a non-broken client [03:46:18] I use ZNC, an IRC bouncer which buffers messages [03:47:17] What happens sometimes is when my wifi is flaky and my client auto-reconnects, ZNC flushes its buffer but my client hangs up before they arrive [03:48:33] where are the udp2log sequence IDs when you need them [03:49:31] ZNC doesn't have anything like stream markers [03:49:48] it could in theory, it extends the IRC protocol in other ways already [03:50:52] just kidding, i'm ignoring robla [03:52:00] :-P [03:52:18] ori: that's fine; I'll just start volunteering you for stuff instead [03:53:20] robla: by the way, we should really find a way to hold a librarization sprint sometime soon [03:53:34] TimStarling: I'm getting the "ugh, management wants to what now?" vibe from you now that I'm pushing for this. I'm not going to push for you to go to an IETF meeting, but.... [03:53:41] the workflow is properly specified and easy to follow [03:53:57] and there's a lot to do, but work has stalled because everyone is distracted by other things [03:54:21] ...I think we're grotesquely insular to think we can't learn anything from an organization that invented online technical collaboration [03:54:24] it's the sort of task that lends itself to heroic burst efforts [03:54:33] ori: I'm ignoring you now :-P [03:55:29] 'twas ever thus [03:56:35] sure [03:57:48] I've been way too meek about proposing IETF-style collaboration for us, which is a mistake I don't plan to continue to make [03:58:23] people were openly dismissive about how the 2014 Architecture Summit went, but I think there were a lot of really good things that came from it [03:58:24] and I'm starting to realise that when I previously thought "meetings are not my thing", it's actually more like waffly agenda-free unstructured meetings are not my thing [03:58:49] robla: we could petition for a seat in the UN security council [03:59:02] * robla continues to ignore ori [03:59:17] i certainly have some geopolitical opinions to share [03:59:24] i'd even volunteer! [04:00:17] * ori -> off [04:00:23] ori: are you saying that UN participation and IETF participation are interchangable, and have interchangable relevance to us? [04:01:34] We just need to get a few people to recognise Wikipedia as a sovereign nation. Sounds doable. [04:02:30] TimStarling: thanks, yes, I agree. I'm going to try to do a lot better with the agendas than I have, and I think if we play our cards right, January will be great [05:50:14] ori: I disabled the auto buffer clearing in znc and instead use /znc clearallchannelbuffers when I'm ready to dump the buffered history. [05:52:31] We need more stroopwaffley meetings. [05:54:17] Yuvi has been bragging about eating stroopwaffles covered in nutella for breakfast this week [05:54:37] #wikimedia-kawaii might be able to arrange something. [08:22:54] Hi [08:23:19] Is this the right place to ask about where might be an appropriate place to ask about Text to speech? [08:25:07] (as it related to Wikimedia projects? [08:26:51] Maybe. I suppose you already checked the relevant phabricator reports? [08:31:36] I haven't [08:31:44] Anything specfic? [08:50:26] quiddity: finally got around to adding the scrolling fix to Actual Live Preview [08:50:46] quiddity: i hope you'll like it [13:00:35] Does someone of you konw, why there are no "ü"s [[File:Juerg Stahl Flyer Auflage2 26.08.2015.pdf]] (commons) in the rendered jpeg. [13:00:52] https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Juerg_Stahl_Flyer_Auflage2_26.08.2015.pdf [19:07:20] cert expired yesterday on https://www.wikimedia.org.uk, is this a -tech or just a normal wikimedia issue? [19:07:41] wikimedia UK issue? [19:08:13] myrcx: they are hosted independently at Rackspace it seems [19:08:41] probably should have whois'd first :P cheers anyways saper :3 [19:49:28] IA got 3000 fresh TB, should last 5 months. https://archive.org/~tracey/mrtg/df.html [20:11:44] what's the periodicity for updates of Special:WantedPages? [20:11:52] (pt.wiktionary^) [20:21:04] what's the periodicity for updates of Special:WantedPages? (pt.wiktionary) [20:28:12] monthly? I never remember [20:28:49] it seems finnish words are very requested [20:30:12] 12th and 16th of every month, Nemo_bis [20:30:17] sorry [20:30:19] 12th and 26th [20:30:24] typo [20:57:57] thanks Krenair [21:01:40] gwicke: is the content wg meeting on hangout? I'd like to join [21:03:39] robla: i feel left out ;) [21:05:42] DanielK_WMDE: we're just getting set up...you're not missing anything [21:06:16] robla: ok, no rush then, just making sure. can you invite me to the google doc? I don't have access [21:06:43] DanielK_WMDE: I'll try as soon as I have access :-/