[01:28:32] <legoktm>	 Josve05a: someone added the #VisualEditor project as a subscriber to that task, so all members of that project (including you!) are cc'd
[01:29:35] <Krenair>	 Yes, the ability to subscribe projects to tasks, or assign tasks to projects, is somewhat non-obvious.
[01:33:18] <Josve05a>	 oh
[01:34:42] <Josve05a>	 thanks. Tried to fiure it out but couldn't.
[06:10:01] <myrcx>	 anyone around to assit with a OTRS query I'm dealing with? Someone is asking for information regarding etherpad.wikimedia.org
[06:32:06] <Nemo_bis>	 myrcx: what sort of info
[06:33:15] <myrcx>	 Nemo_bis, namely "Are they deleted after a certain number of days unused?", "Are they kept forever?" and "Are there versioning limitations?"
[06:33:35] <myrcx>	 I've had a look on https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Etherpad.wikimedia.org
[06:34:42] <ostriches>	 No, they're not pruned after any set time.
[06:35:07] <myrcx>	 ostriches, wonderful thank you :)
[06:35:11] <ostriches>	 They're kept "forever" but there's not much in the way of promises re: backups...so any perma-data should be copied off to a wiki usually
[07:12:54] <Nemo_bis>	 It's not pretty that we don't have a component for search any longer. https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T106594#1477199
[07:20:42] <ostriches>	 Nemo_bis: Didn't you hear? s/Search/Discovery/
[07:20:49] <ostriches>	 Discovery is the new Search!
[07:20:49] <ostriches>	 :)
[07:21:09] <Nemo_bis>	 That's not a component, it's a team project.
[07:21:21] <Nemo_bis>	 As such, it's full of garbage that most users are not interested in.
[07:21:41] <ostriches>	 `mv elasticsearch elasticdiscovery`
[07:21:49] <ostriches>	 Search is dead. Long live discovery!
[07:22:03] <Nemo_bis>	 Murdoch agrees
[09:29:19] <Sylvain_WMFr>	 hello
[19:06:29] <spagewmf>	 skins/Vector/Vector.php is gone, yet https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Skin:Vector says 'in earlier versions [than MW 1.25], you need to use: require_once "$IP/skins/Vector/Vector.php";'
[19:08:37] <spagewmf>	 ^ ignore that, my git repo was messed up
[19:31:11] <sushant>	 Hey I am trying to install Vector Skin I am getting error : 'unable to access 'https://git.wikimedia.org/git/mediawiki/skins/Vector.git/': Failed to connect to git.wikimedia.org port 443: Network is unreachable'
[19:31:26] <sushant>	 Can somebody help?
[19:33:12] <andre__>	 sushant: Hi! How do you try to install? Commands welcome. Or the guide you follow.
[19:33:51] <andre__>	 (plus this conversation might be more suited for #mediawiki as this is not about Wikimedia wikis)
[19:34:23] <Platonides>	 the last slash probably isn't needed
[19:34:32] <Platonides>	 but it does not explain the error
[19:34:46] <Platonides>	 do you need to browse through a proxy?
[19:35:02] <Platonides>	 given that you are connected to irc, I assume the machine has internet access...
[19:35:20] <sushant>	 git clone https://git.wikimedia.org/git/mediawiki/skins/Vector.git
[19:35:31] <sushant>	 I used the following command
[19:35:36] <spagewmf>	 sushant: executing `git clone https://git.wikimedia.org/git/mediawiki/skins/Vector.git` in Ubuntu works fine for me. Are you using windows?
[19:35:48] <andre__>	 sushant, where did you find that command / do you follow some guide or website instructions?
[19:35:59] <sushant>	 no also use ubuntu 
[19:36:49] <sushant>	 https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/admin/projects/mediawiki/skins/Vector
[19:37:22] <Platonides>	 sushant, try ping git.wikimedia.org
[19:38:39] <sushant>	 Ok using ssh it is working but with http it is not working
[19:38:53] <sushant>	 the same Flow extension
[19:40:12] <Platonides>	 I don't see why you won't have https connectivity
[19:40:29] <andre__>	 sushant, where did you see "http" ever mentioned?
[19:40:35] <andre__>	 as you wrote "with http it is not working"
[19:40:45] <andre__>	 I hope none of the docs ever mention using http...
[19:41:29] <sushant>	 No I used the command suggest in gerrit
[19:41:32] <spagewmf>	 andre__: you can git clone using https. Alas the docs for each skin and extension don't even mention git clone
[19:42:09] <andre__>	 spagewmf, sure you can, but sushant mentioned http.
[19:42:21] <andre__>	 in any case, https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Gerrit/Tutorial#Proxy_servers provides some additional debug options
[19:42:34] <Nemo_bis>	 Indian users often have networking troubles with git
[19:44:33] <spagewmf>	 sushant... ahh, gone.  The gerrit tutorials say use git clone ssh://<USERNAMEsushant>@gerrit.wikimedia.org:29418/blahblah   but if you visit a repo, I believe gerrit and diffusion do suggest the anonymous clone over https
[19:48:04] <Nemo_bis>	 git.wikimedia.org summary offers all the options
[20:00:09] <spagewmf>	 Nemo_bis: hmm, I followed the link to https://git.wikimedia.org/summary/mediawiki%2Fskins%2FVector and don't see any "options", just some gray fields and then list of commits
[20:01:01] <spagewmf>	 Nemo_bis: also someone needs to kill those git.wikimedia.org links for ostriches :-)
[20:01:35] <ostriches>	 spagewmf: ssh is terrible, all the cool kids use https :)
[20:02:38] <spagewmf>	 ostriches hi! re callsigns and these templates, hashar said in T101358 "I have added the point to the Release-Engineering weekly meeting agenda for August 25th." did any reporters cover the event?
[20:02:43] <Nemo_bis>	 spagewmf: really? there is a "Git" dropdown
[20:03:00] <ostriches>	 spagewmf: I removed it from my team meeting :p
[20:03:24] <ostriches>	 I wouldn't worry about callsigns. I'm working on a redirector thingie.
[20:03:35] <ostriches>	 So if people don't want to speak callsigns, they don't have to
[20:03:52] <ostriches>	 Keep using old gerrit repo names, it'll redirect.
[20:04:54] <spagewmf>	 Nemo_bis: OMG my Firefox doesn't show "repository url" or those dropdowns :-(
[20:05:19] <spagewmf>	 It's in class="hidden-tablet" and hidden.
[20:05:20] <Nemo_bis>	 spagewmf: mine does and I have all sorts of restrictions, what are you doing? :)
[20:05:47] <Platonides>	 disabling javascript? :)
[20:06:57] <spagewmf>	 Nemo_bis: I zoomed out and it appears.  Imma suing WMF for discriminating against impaired users
[20:07:39] <Platonides>	 hehe
[20:10:53] <Nemo_bis>	 Hm how weird
[20:10:57] <spagewmf>	 ostriches: can you update https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T101358 ?  Surely you're not saying templates should fabricate crappy fragile links to git.wikimedia.org using gerrit path/to/repo names?
[20:11:49] <Nemo_bis>	 spagewmf: oh you are right, if I zoom in just one level a hamburger icon appears and lots of stuff disappear from the page
[20:12:23] <spagewmf>	 Nemo_bis: Yup, no display elsewhere or in a dropdown, gitblit just hides it. I I could file a pointless bug :)
[20:12:51] <ostriches>	 spagewmf: I'm saying if {{git file}} wants to still use old gerrit repo names and not callsigns, it'll have to go through a redirection.
[20:12:56] <Nemo_bis>	 gitblit fixed some bug I filed, IIRC
[20:15:15] <ostriches>	 It won't be via git.wm.o, but yeah
[20:16:59] <spagewmf>	 ostriches: ah, good, URLencoding some slashes and not others in T43961 was tricky. I don't see a "write redirector" task on https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/tag/gitblit-deprecate/
[20:18:08] * ostriches has about 30 tasks he's working on that aren't tracked anywhere :D
[20:18:20] * ostriches mumbles something about busses
[20:18:44] <spagewmf>	 Hey, hey! Let's be careful out there.
[21:41:35] <malafaya>	 Common.css is notl oaded for the mobile site?
[21:41:44] <malafaya>	 what is then?
[21:45:09] <legoktm>	 malafaya: MediaWiki:Mobile.css
[21:45:53] <malafaya>	 logoktm, thanks. i just realized pt.wikt has lots ot confusing stuff which should be hidden (display: none;)
[21:55:03] <malafaya>	 logoktm, what about CSS gadgets? are they loaded?
[23:45:41] <snitch>	 [[Tech]]; 58.187.161.21; Sua loi chinh ta; https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?diff=13348093&oldid=13309187&rcid=6730429
[23:45:51] <snitch>	 [[Tech]]; Eurodyne; Reverted 1 edit by [[Special:Contributions/58.187.161.21|58.187.161.21]] ([[User talk:58.187.161.21|talk]]). ([[m:Twinkle|TW]]); https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?diff=13348096&oldid=13348093&rcid=6730430
[23:47:54] <snitch>	 [[Tech]]; 58.187.161.21; Sua loi chinh ta; https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?diff=13348116&oldid=13348096&rcid=6730437
[23:48:10] <snitch>	 [[Tech]]; Matiia; Reverted changes by [[Special:Contributions/58.187.161.21|58.187.161.21]] ([[User talk:58.187.161.21|talk]]) to last version by Eurodyne; https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?diff=13348119&oldid=13348116&rcid=6730438