[00:29:41] <Taxom__>	 не активна ссылка "Википедию начали блокировать в России. Узнайте, что делать, пока ещё не поздно." в верху страницы
[00:32:36] <Krenair>	 You mean the link does not work?
[00:35:26] <mutante>	 so the instructions what to do to get around the block.. are on the blocked page
[00:36:05] <Krenair>	 I suspect the idea is that you see it in advance, mutante :)
[00:37:19] <mutante>	 Taxom__: https://ru.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%92%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%BF%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B8%D1%8F:%D0%A7%D1%82%D0%BE_%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BB%D0%B0%D1%82%D1%8C,_%D0%B5%D1%81%D0%BB%D0%B8_%D0%92%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%BF%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B8%D1%8F_%D0%B7%D0%B0%D0%B1%D0%BB%D0%BE%D0%BA%D0%B8%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%B0%D0%BD%D0%B0
[00:55:04] <Taxom__>	 Как подать запрос на флаг IP-exempt? говорит не могугу редактировать https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%92%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%BF%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B8%D1%8F:%D0%9F%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%B5%D1%80%D0%BA%D0%B0_%D1%83%D1%87%D0%B0%D1%81%D1%82%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%BE%D0%B2/%D0%97%D0%B0%D0%BF%D1%80%D0%BE%D1%81%D1%8B_%D0%BD%D0%B0_%D1%84%D0%BB%D0%B0%D0%B3_IP-exempt
[01:05:58] <Krenair>	 Taxom__, sorry, do you speak English?
[01:06:41] <Krenair>	 these sorts of questions must be answered by ru.wikipedia.org users, we can only help with the software/server side of things
[01:11:04] <Taxom__>	 No
[06:02:45] <Nemo_bis>	 It seems their ISP in Moscow is not blocked (yet). http://www.webpagetest.org/result/150825_NQ_A6R/
[06:34:32] <Nemo_bis>	 Hmm. https://atlas.ripe.net/measurements/2347408/#!probes
[10:04:53] <Nemo_bis>	 PDF export stuck in "Waiting for job runner to pick up render job" for quite a while
[10:56:58] <snitch>	 [[Tech]]; 105.168.13.175; pedindo das musicas; https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?diff=13309134&oldid=13288113&rcid=6723869
[11:01:34] <snitch>	 [[Tech]]; Herbythyme; Reverted changes by [[Special:Contributions/105.168.13.175|105.168.13.175]] ([[User talk:105.168.13.175|talk]]) to last version by Nemo bis; https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?diff=13309187&oldid=13309134&rcid=6723870
[16:56:38] <Cookies52>	 Hey, anyone know why the content translator tool appears to be blank on firefox? Just me, or is something going on elsewhere?
[17:06:34] <rfarrand>	 in one hour we will be using this channel for lightning talks! https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Lightning_Talks
[17:06:40] <rfarrand>	 more information to follow along coming soon
[17:07:35] <brion>	 \o/
[17:07:43] <brion>	 rfarrand: let me know if y'all need me to test anything via hangout
[17:09:27] <rfarrand>	 brion: byron is on his way up now to get that all set up
[17:09:33] <rfarrand>	 will send the link shortly :) 
[17:09:34] <brion>	 great
[17:18:19] <dynosaur>	 hi leila :)
[17:19:56] <leila>	 hi dynosaur.
[17:20:47] <AnnaKoval>	 hi leila
[17:22:33] <leila>	 hello AnnaKoval. :-)
[17:22:39] <andre__>	 Cookies52: steps to reproduce?
[17:22:53] <andre__>	 Cookies52, any URL? any output in the developer console of the browser?
[17:23:04] <leila>	 dynosaur: Do we already have the link for the Air event for those who don't present?
[17:23:18] <Cookies52>	 andre__, it appears working now, I looked up on phab and it seemed to be the unicode issue already reported, but let me double-check...
[17:23:47] <Cookies52>	 andre__, it's https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:ContentTranslation?page=East+of+England+%28European+Parliament+constituency%29&from=en&to=simple&targettitle=East+of+England+%28European+Parliament+constituency%29 , it's frozen again (simple english Wikipedia btw)
[17:24:42] <andre__>	 Hmm. That tells me "No such special page" :(
[17:24:58] <Cookies52>	 andre__, do you have the beta feature turned on on simple english Wikipedia?
[17:25:07] <Cookies52>	 I had the same issue earlier with someone else...
[17:28:01] <dynosaur>	 Youtube link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fnqEMIxFnGE
[17:28:10] <dynosaur>	 will email it out and add it to topic is a moment
[17:28:18] <dynosaur>	 leila ^^
[17:28:34] <leila>	 thanks dynosaur
[17:31:51] <Cookies52>	 andre__, actually, it's not that at all, is it.... :/
[17:35:56] <andre__>	 Cookies52, ah, hadn't enabled it
[17:38:13] <leila>	 AnnaKoval: you should come to more meetings
[17:38:14] <leila>	 :D
[17:38:46] <AnnaKoval>	 thanks, leila. be careful what you ask for because i just might do that. ;) 
[17:38:55] <leila>	 haha. ;-)
[17:50:43] <dynosaur>	 Lightning talks starting in 10 min
[17:51:45] <dynosaur>	 link to youtube in topic 
[17:54:22] <Pine>	 T minus 5 minutes to lightning talks
[18:02:14] <zeljkof>	 lightning talks did not start yet?
[18:02:23] <guillom>	 zeljkof: in a second :)
[18:02:34] <zeljkof>	 guillom: thanks!
[18:02:40] <brion>	 should be starting now \o/
[18:02:44] <dynosaur>	 lightning talks started! 
[18:04:18] <dynosaur>	 please let me know if you have questions and I will ask them for you on the mic
[18:06:40] <ashwinpp>	 Can the hangout participant pane be hidden?
[18:06:44] <dynosaur>	 questions at the end of the talk only 
[18:06:48] <guillom>	 Interesting data about how current clicks are /not/ clicked very often.
[18:06:58] <dynosaur>	 ashwinpp: usually there is a button for that but it is not working today. very sorry about that
[18:07:13] <Pine>	 I think slides are posted on MediaWiki
[18:07:32] <brion>	 slides are linked form https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Lightning_Talks
[18:07:39] <brion>	 *from
[18:11:05] <brion>	 ooh that's pretty awesome (potential to put link suggester into VE)
[18:12:24] <dynosaur>	 ok, questons! 
[18:12:52] <dynosaur>	 Anything from IRC?
[18:13:01] <gilles>	 dynosaur: are the links added through the recommendation system read back by the algorithm coming up with the recommendations? if so, isn't there a risk of the recommendation quality worsening?
[18:13:06] <Pine>	 By the way, audio in this session is *much* better than the audio we sometimes get at the monthly metrics meetings.
[18:13:24] <dynosaur>	 gilles: will ask
[18:13:29] <dynosaur>	 Pine: they just upgraded everything
[18:13:31] <brion>	 ++audio :)
[18:16:02] <gilles>	 dynosaur: are there plans to do a similar opposite analysis, suggesting links worth removing? which would probably help direct more traffic to the useful links
[18:16:39] <dynosaur>	 gilles: you asked guillom's question! :) 
[18:16:42] <gilles>	 hah
[18:16:43] <guillom>	 yep :)
[18:16:55] <dynosaur>	 anything else?
[18:17:00] <gilles>	 I'm done, thanks
[18:17:04] <dynosaur>	 :) 
[18:17:31] <guillom>	 I'm all for having proxies who ask my questions!
[18:17:32] <dynosaur>	 This is Dario talking here in SF
[18:17:39] <Pine>	 :)
[18:18:07] <dynosaur>	 OK, just about to move on to the next talk! :) ready brion?
[18:18:21] <DarTar>	 hey dynosaur 
[18:18:24] <DarTar>	 yep that was me
[18:18:24] <brion>	 yay
[18:18:25] <milimetric>	 they don't meet the pattern "X amazing [thing]s, number x will make you cry"
[18:20:16] <Pine>	 I'm seeing an image on the screen that isn't Brion's presentation directly
[18:20:34] <gilles>	 the avatars are gone, hooray
[18:22:09] <Pine>	 Can we get Brion's presentation onto the Hangouts main view?
[18:22:17] <dynosaur>	 byron_ ^^
[18:22:34] <dynosaur>	 Pine: it looks like it is here
[18:22:36] <guillom>	 It looks fine on the main screen.
[18:22:43] <dynosaur>	 click on it in the hangout :)
[18:22:49] <guillom>	 "Brion Vibber (presenting)"
[18:23:08] <dynosaur>	 nm byron_  :) 
[18:23:08] <Pine>	 Ah, maybe lag, I can see it better now, thanks
[18:28:39] <Pine>	 When it's time for questions, I have a couple that I can ask over Hangout audio if that's ok
[18:29:40] <dynosaur>	 Pine: no problem :) 
[18:33:06] <Pine>	 dynosaur: please cue me when the in-office mic line is clear
[18:34:45] <dynosaur>	 go ahead pine 
[18:35:25] <dynosaur>	 any other questions? 
[18:35:38] <dynosaur>	 from IRC
[18:39:15] <brion>	 good questions pine :D
[18:40:08] <dynosaur>	 32 people watching this live :)
[18:40:41] <Pine>	 Thanks brion! See you in a few weeks
[18:41:02] <milimetric>	 ooh, video over hangouts, daring
[18:41:29] <gilles>	 youtube still shows the hangout focused on pine
[18:41:43] <Pine>	 dynosaur: ^
[18:42:01] <dynosaur>	 byron ^^
[18:42:38] <dynosaur>	 is it better now?
[18:42:42] <gilles>	 nope
[18:42:47] <zeljkof>	 No :(
[18:43:09] <brion>	 it's showing in the main hangout for me ... 
[18:43:24] <gilles>	 all good now!
[18:43:31] <brion>	 yay
[18:43:33] <milimetric>	 yep
[18:43:37] <marxarelli>	 thanks!
[18:43:51] <dynosaur>	 for anyone that missed the start: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ca3-c8ot4-4
[18:45:46] <AnnaKoval>	 also on Commons here: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Tec-de-monterrey-student-activities-in-wikimedia.webm
[18:47:13] <dynosaur>	 cute! 
[18:47:18] <guillom>	 kawaii indeed :)
[18:49:21] <gilles>	 very inspiring, every school should do this. almost all my education history had me produce useless content for exams and reports that got tossed
[18:49:30] <dynosaur>	 questions?
[18:49:32] <milimetric>	 +1 gilles
[18:49:43] <AnnaKoval>	 thanks, gilles. agree wholeheartedly. <3 
[18:49:45] <guillom>	 AnnaKoval ends the video with warmz and fuzziez!
[18:49:45] <DarTar>	 really cool
[18:49:57] <DarTar>	 nice job
[18:49:58] <AnnaKoval>	 <3 thanks guillom
[18:50:31] <marxarelli>	 sooo great! more of these kinds of presentations, please :)
[18:50:37] <Pine>	 dynosaur: can you put the Commons link into the main screen for anyone who missed the first part of it or wants to download it?
[18:50:47] <dynosaur>	 byron ^
[18:50:51] <Pine>	 *missed the first part of the video
[18:51:23] <dynosaur>	 ( byron ) is controling the screen 
[18:51:40] <dynosaur>	 any way you can put this on the screen byron https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Tec-de-monterrey-student-activities-in-wikimedia.webm
[18:51:43] <dynosaur>	 hi multichill!!!!
[18:52:12] <multichill>	 hi dynosaur, how are you doing?
[18:52:44] <dynosaur>	  If not we can include it in the youtube description 
[18:52:48] <dynosaur>	 to make sure people see it
[18:52:55] <dynosaur>	 multichill: great :) 
[18:53:08] <AnnaKoval>	 thanks, dynosaur! that would be great.
[18:53:19] <guillom>	 A link in the YouTube description sounds great.
[18:53:28] <dynosaur>	 that might be the best option pine, hope that is OK :) 
[18:53:37] <Pine>	 ok
[18:54:01] <dynosaur>	 unless you want to share a screen? We just don't have a slide ready with it on it 
[18:54:03] <Pine>	 Or can you put one of those popup notes on the Youtube video with a short link to the Commons video?
[18:54:20] <dynosaur>	 never done that before - but I can prob figure it out !
[18:54:23] <Pine>	 ok
[18:54:39] <Pine>	 Remember that we now have a Wikimedia short links tool
[18:56:02] <dynosaur>	 Thanks so much everyone! 
[18:56:06] <dynosaur>	 lightning talks over :)
[18:56:23] <milimetric>	 thx, these talks are fun
[18:56:25] <dynosaur>	 Pine: thank you for thinking of doing this here 
[18:56:30] <spagewmf>	 brion: a) so if someone embeds e.g. [[File:O Jogo Bonito (The Beautiful Game).webm|thumb|caption blah blah.]], Safari and IE users actually are served a transcoded .ogv file? If those users click the popup video resolution menu, do they even see the Webm options?
[18:56:34] <dynosaur>	 (sharing the video in our lightning talks) 
[18:56:51] <dynosaur>	 glad to have diversity in topics 
[18:57:15] <dynosaur>	 if you have any other ideas please get in touch any month 
[18:57:20] <brion>	 spagewmf: that's correct!
[18:57:41] <brion>	 spagewmf: they'll just see the ogg options in the menu yeah
[18:57:54] <spagewmf>	 brion: maybe you could take a screenshot showing that, a picture being worth 1000 words ;)
[18:57:54] <brion>	 spagewmf: but you can still download the webms from the transcode list on the File: page
[18:58:02] <spagewmf>	 oh, right
[18:58:07] <brion>	 sure :D
[18:58:46] <spagewmf>	 brion: b) it seems WMF mostly uploads .ogv files, e.g. the Monthly metrics. Which is a better source format for transcoding, ogv or webm ?
[18:59:25] <brion>	 spagewmf: if it's a high-quality/high-bitrate source file it doesn't make much difference; they'll get transcoded to both .ogv and .webm for output whichever you upload
[18:59:37] <brion>	 spagewmf: though it may be faster to encode an .ogv source than a .webm :)
[19:01:56] <brion>	 spagewmf: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/mediawiki/3/38/Safar_ogv.js_playback_example.png
[19:02:13] <brion>	 yeah i'll put more pictures in my next pres ;)
[19:02:17] <brion>	 totally forgot this time :D
[19:03:28] <brion>	 aw hell i typoed 'Safar' in the filename :D
[19:03:49] <ostriches>	 Safar....Jafar's nicer brother?
[19:04:01] <spagewmf>	 brion: hack the database tables :) no worries
[19:04:09] <brion>	 hehe
[19:04:29] <brion>	 i gotta run some errands and grab some lunch; feel free to ping me more questions :D
[19:17:34] <AnnaKoval>	 also heading out. thanks everyone. this was fun. <3 
[21:57:05] <spagewmf>	 thedj: thanks for looking at T110245. I saw common's MediaWiki:LAPI.js redefines $ (!!?) among other weirdness, I assumed that might be part of the problem
[21:59:02] <thedj>	 no it doesnt
[21:59:07] <thedj>	 it defines LAPI.$