[09:57:27] https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/community-tech/2015-August/000000.html [11:41:50] sDrewth, hey you there [11:41:51] ? [11:48:24] yes xzise (sort of) [11:48:51] You have still the same issue with logging in in pywikibot? [11:49:10] Not sure if we should talk about it here or privately/#pywikibot [11:49:14] haven't got back to it, been home from work late [11:49:26] saw jayvdb's email though [12:01:54] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:RecentChanges cat changes by coibot are appearing here [12:09:11] https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T109700#1556813 [12:13:03] Glaisher, I think you're right in this case, but remember that being in the bot group doesn't guarantee all your edits will be hidden by default [12:13:11] you still have to explicitly mark edits as bot edits if you want that [12:14:57] I edited the description [12:15:18] Yep, COIBot edits wasn't shown previously [12:21:37] select * from recentchanges where rc_this_oldid = 13219209; on metawiki_p [12:22:07] rc_bot is 1 for the real edit, and 0 for the categorisation edits [12:39:10] https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T35461 may be related [13:16:48] Glaisher, couldn't reproduce the issue locally [13:17:11] .. [13:17:23] did you do the markbot thing? [13:17:33] yes [13:17:38] they all showed as bot edits [13:17:52] even the category changes [14:45:03] I hate to bother you all but... [14:45:05] An error occurred during a connection to en.wikipedia.org. Invalid OCSP signing certificate in OCSP response. (Error code: sec_error_ocsp_invalid_signing_cert) [14:45:19] tommorris, FF? [14:45:24] yep [14:45:34] known [14:46:19] tommorris, what OS? [14:46:28] Why Wikimedia projects can't be load at my browser (I use Firefox at Win 8.1)? [14:46:44] FF 40.0, Mac OS X 10.10.5 [14:47:01] Error: sec_error_ocsp_invalid_signing_cert at my browser [14:47:24] twitter have noticed - https://twitter.com/fcremo/status/634375509338685440 and https://twitter.com/_HeBu/status/634375949086277632 [14:47:35] I use 39.0.3 [14:48:13] works fine in other browsers (tested on Safari) [14:48:37] fine for me [14:49:00] nope, same for me now [14:49:02] Someone else complaining about that [14:49:10] I'll test it at Chrome an Internet Explorer [14:49:23] Secure Connection Failed [14:49:23] An error occurred during a connection to en.wikipedia.org. Invalid OCSP signing certificate in OCSP response. (Error code: sec_error_ocsp_invalid_signing_cert) [14:49:55] Dragonfly6-7: /topic [14:49:55] testing in Edge now [14:50:09] On commons, direct page-loading works about half the time for me using Mac Firefox, but when uploading *not* via the wizard, the preview box always just spins. [14:50:28] (but the actual upload just worked) [14:50:33] Dragonfly6-7: Me too [14:50:43] Working fine on Microsoft Edge, just not on FF [14:50:56] ah, okay. [14:51:27] What is this Edge everyone talks about, a new fancy way to headdesk with more effect (not in the middle, but on the sides)? [14:51:33] ;) [14:52:04] heh [14:52:25] haha [14:52:28] Internet Explorer is working [14:52:32] "An error occurred during a connection to en.wikipedia.org. Invalid OCSP signing certificate in OCSP response. (Error code: sec_error_ocsp_invalid_signing_cert) " [14:52:36] oh lool, so not jsut me .. [14:53:11] oh nose, the hackers from Ashley Madison is attacking WIKIMEDIA :O [14:53:31] -_- [14:53:42] thanks [14:54:42] works on k-meleon too... [14:56:01] brion wakey wakey :D [14:56:46] Not brions problem ;) [14:57:02] timmys? :( [14:57:44] no [14:57:57] There are lots of people in -operations who are working on it [14:58:27] (And that's not an encouragement to go there and disturb them.) [14:58:58] damn, nearly pressed /j #wikimedia-operations :P [14:59:04] Well, no, but it's sometimes a good channel to watch [14:59:13] Watch, yes :) [14:59:15] I lurk in there just so I can be the first person to report stuff like this :) [14:59:45] Just saying Ashley Madison jokes won't be welcome there. [14:59:54] Definitely not [15:00:39] https was a dumb idea IMO :/ [15:01:04] oh come on now :S [15:01:07] Says the NSA plant. [15:02:18] i iz no plant :( [15:02:21] Strangely enough, OTRS is ok though [15:02:36] p.s, found a solution, just change "security.ssl.enable_ocsp_stapling" to False in "about:config" [15:03:03] gj [15:03:08] It's not a solution, just a workaround [15:03:27] Reedy: I found a solution too: just use my computer! [15:03:40] short solution..I'll take it :D [15:09:54] Cookies52: "ok" meaning "as screwed up as it usually is" - the IPv6/IPv4 issue still hasn't been fixed [15:10:21] tommorris, yeah, I meant still working as ever [15:10:35] they really need to update the whole thing... [15:11:09] I don't do any OTRS work anymore because the IP lock stuff kicks me out so often, it's not worth bothering with [15:12:31] still info-en at inbox zero is nice. :) [15:12:36] Think of the security! [15:13:34] tommorris, wait, info-en is at 0? [15:13:46] Krenair: was the other day [15:13:51] and all subqueues? [15:13:54] yup [15:14:07] wow [15:14:56] usually when people do stimulants, they go to a nightclub and dance all night, but apparently someone decided to answer OTRS mails instead. [15:15:32] heh [15:17:46] Krenair, it's at 3 right now ;) [15:18:01] I found some spam stuff, but it's been stable below 5 all day [15:18:11] Status: Cautious optimism. The sites seem to be back up for everyone, GlobalSign may have fixed their issues, but we're still verifying [15:22:40] heh, Krenair, should we just keep that for the new "Up"? ;) [15:22:50] "Cautious optimism" [15:22:57] seems like a good default state [15:23:22] marktraceur: working for me on en.wp, en.wn, commons, meta, en.wikt [15:23:23] I was thinking the same :) [15:29:27] Krenair: Brilliant [15:30:21] well, you came up with it [15:39:27] :) [17:29:06] Quick question: Can I make VE work in template namespace at all, or is it just disabled? [17:30:00] Cookies52: it could be changed via wiki configuration [17:30:31] But from the user's point of view, it's just disabled. [17:48:29] Hey , I was trying to install mediawiki through vagrant [17:50:06] I am facing issues while running 'vagrant provision' due to error which says 'dpkg was intrupped' [17:50:58] when I entered into vagrant ssh and ran command 'sudo dpkg --configure -a' [17:52:35] and again executed 'vagrant provision' It shows error that composer.phar missing' [17:52:42] I tried to resolve that [17:52:49] but cannot do it [17:52:57] Can anyone help [17:53:30] adisha, try /j #mediawiki - this is really just for WMF wiki's [17:53:52] ok thanks [19:06:02] Is there a way to measure etherpad usage across the years? [19:10:10] i doubt it, it's not like we keep logs for a long time [19:11:48] Do pads carry some timestamps? [19:11:49] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Talk:Etherpad_index [19:12:01] (That one with DB access could query for.) [19:15:35] oh, that's a general issue. expecting an index to work long-term [19:15:50] etherpads should not be treateds as long-term storage [19:16:01] they should be copied to wikis instead [19:16:04] and then linked there [19:16:30] also, we replaced etherpad with etherpad-lint so there won't be history for the old one [19:17:01] etherpads should always be treated as "could disappear tomorrow" [19:17:15] so ideally after each session the notes get copied to a wiki [19:19:52] Yes but that's not the point, I'm not seeing recent usage of etherpad. [19:20:04] I can't find a recent biggish etherpad. [19:21:06] Unless you meant that maybe everyone became very disciplined and now all etherpads are archived and destroyed within few days which makes them hard to find. ;) [19:22:38] Nemo_bis: i can only speak for ops, but we copy the Etherpad to office wiki after every single meeting [19:22:49] and yes, use it regularly [19:23:45] the names are predictable too, because only the date in it changes and they happen every week [20:02:19] No more cautious optimism? :( [20:11:48] 5 hours of it seem enough ;-) [20:12:15] :( [20:17:27] sorry if i was too bold there, I just don't like topics which are forgotten after the storm calms down because no one notices them [20:19:38] they're functionally equiv, but ok [20:19:52] see also: serious business mode in Phabricator, I guess